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Add Santa Cruz to the west coast mix. Lots of chunky / steep / fast stuff that merits a slacked out 170mm bike. Like yeah, I could ride a 26lb stumpjumper on those trails, but I'm having way more fun on a DH capable enduro rig. I don't think the enduro style of bike is going anywhere. It's more fun than a 150mm trail bike in a lot of scenarios.

Heck yeah, let's get MORE soil science, glaciology and and geomorphology in here! Who wants to nerd out on the Franciscan melange? Also:

Not tech rumors, but soil tech history! The difference between Oregon, WA and BC is all about ice. Kilometer+ thick ice sheets created glacial terrain features and exposed more bedrock from Washington State north. Oregon didn't get the sweet, sweet ice sheet remodeling. The maximum extent of the Puget Lobe of the Cordilleran Ice Sheet was Tenino, which is between Seattle, Washington and Portland, Oregon. In the Seattle area you have a lot of glacial till soils that the ice pushed around. Further north the ice scraped away soils and smoothed the bedrock, making terrain for amazing tech riding. This...

Shoot, I thought Oregon had the gnarliest of trails...

I will fight you.

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I took my enduro bike out on my local XC loop the other day to test some things and it was slow, but boy was it comfortable. I use the enduro bike for a lot of things it isn't "necessary" for because it's easier on the body.

I think like most things this very much depends on where and what you ride. Here in Vancouver almost everyone I know is on a 160-180mm enduro bike. Our trails have a lot of big roots and big compressions so we’re using every bit of travel we can get. Even if you primarily shuttle to the top you’ll likely be pedalling at some point so you rarely see downhill bikes at Seymour.

Can’t wait for sram to offer subscription services for modulation.

Your left nut lives to fight another day.

Yeah, wireless brakes are gonna be a no for me, dawg

On Brand for longer and slacker. jank components came out with an Ibis link to lengthen the chain stay and slacken the head tube. https://jankcomponents.com/products/jank-link-long-chainstay-linkage-fo…

Cat 4 is we call this a gravity mtb but we will deny your warranty for riding it.

Spomer: Closes tech rumors thread to encourage creation of new forum posts for individual topics VitalMTB community:

This thread is shorter than the stays on my Canfield.

Should this be renamed to " MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and slacker"?

"we have GT ebike at home"