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So... In terms of triple headers, this has got to be the best venue on the UCI MTB circuit right? The downhill track is sick, the XC track nearly looked like an enduro track I saw dudes gapping rock gardens on 120/120 bikes... And the enduro looked gnarlier than the DH including a night stage (on maybe the hardest section). Not sure how many other triple headers there are, or even double headers for that matter... But wow this new venue seems to have done everything 'right'

Good to see Jordan keep it up right off the last drop. Healing vibes to Oscar Griffiths who had a bad one off of it in qualies. According to Ollie M on the downtime podcast he’s in ICU but stable, they will know in a few days.

Interesting how finn and Jordan have stepped up in brunis absence Incredible battles for the win every week. Evidently downhill is now no country for old men

New Men's Elite leader: Amaury Pierron moved into first by 12 points over Finn Iles. Other movement in the Men's standings: Big gainers: Goldstone (up 6 spots to 9th) and Pontvianne (up 6 to 12th). Despite an unfortunate 26th place finish, Angel Suarez Alonzo moved up 8 places to become the highest non-factory rider in the standings in 26th place. Vermette: Finished 2nd but dropped a spot to 4th because Williams pulled off the double (Q1 and Finals wins) and moved up to 3rd. "The Other Alran" - Till - enters the top 10 while Max drops a spot to...

Overturned turtle celebration is a 10/10. Jeez that side swap on the wood made for an exciting finish.

Long time lurker… longer than I’ve been an ‘official’ member… Phoenix local here… DH tires. Cushcore.. and a Neo Shock. I ride a 2023 Rocky Mountain Altitude and the Neo- has been an absolute game changer for me. I pedal a lot.. and it has made my enduro into a ‘trail-duro’ it’s been a huge innovation for me. DH tires and cushcore so I don’t get stranded in the desert heat and can bash the rocks back.. Neo to pedal all day. I’d recommend it for the type of riding I have out the front door from the house.

Bike industry surprises everyone with new tech. Forum discusses its innovative nature and implications. Members start complaining about the relevance. Rinse and repeat.

There’s been a motor/gearbox unit from Pinion for almost 3 years now. Nicolai offers in in the S16 MGU

To conclude the gearbox talk from me, I think it's very likely ebikes will have some sort of gearbox in the future, but I doubt that will happen for pedal bikes. I think 1x11 and for sure 1x12 drivetrains were the nails in the coffin of gearboxes. Traditional drivetrains work too well and don't have the negatives (drag and weight) the gearboxes have. Furthermore, ebikes with the current crop of powerful motors need a gearbox due to the power getting out of control. Plus SL bikes are going away so emtb is becoming a different sport to regular pedal bikes...

Effigear had or has the option of a nonconcentric output. Cavaliere bikes used it in the past. As for two cassettes in a box, you actually need like two 11-25 cassettes to get 516% of range if you run them "back to front" like in the shimano patent. Two 10-50 cassettes, besides definitely not fitting, would give you 2500 % of range. That's a bit much.

Maybe this isn't an accurate point of view, but I feel like pedal MTBs and e-bikes aren't really trying to solve the same problems. I think a pretty massive effort goes into the design of pedal MTBs so that they can be comfortably and efficiently pedaled, at least outside of DH-specific bikes. Even enduro bikes, especially those that are raced, need to pedal decently. For an e-bike, pedal performance is probably pretty far down on the list of design goals. I've watched a handful of folks with dead batteries or faulty electronics try to pedal their 50-lb beasts out of...

The later. I haven't spent enough time looking at how Pinion and others layout the internals, but I suspect that the requirement to have the input and output shafts concentric creates some challenging design constraints. A GB that replaced the second chain on dual chain bikes might free up some of these. on the other hand, it would freeze up the BB-to-pivot radius, so perhaps it would be far too restrictive for frame designers - kind of a one-off thing. Probably some people here will call this blasphemous, but I wonder if it might be too soon to know if...

The original Effigear was actually spot on with this, and it used a trigger shifter … and yes, it’s a development cycle that will come back around to enduro and park bikes first… I agree with your points on the challenges.

I do remember a couple of high pivot DH bikes that used an internally geared hub at the pivot ..

There are some pretty tough engineering challenges that need to be overcome before gearboxes can find their way into mainstream pedal MTBs. They pretty much have to be fully enclosed, as lubricated gears at BB height would never survive otherwise. That's a lot of material to form that enclosure. Perhaps some use of really tough fiber-filled thermo-plastics could offset some of this weight, but the GB is also the bash guard, and there are a lot of internal stresses that the shell has to handle. Due to material properties of even the most exotic metals, the gears really can't get...

FWIW regarding upcoming gearbox ebikes and trickledown to classic bikes, it's a big no. The way these gearbox concepts from Avinox and Gobao work requires an electric motor, so it's a no go for a non electric bicycle. As for shifters, Pinion has electric shifting via triggers and Effigear always supported trigger shifting, but brings it's own problems in regards to shifting with it. Regardless if the benefits it's quite likely the current crop of gearboxes would indeed be a no go for the average rider based on the limitations they bring with them.

Will second that, but it's going to be called the Team DH, not the Arum.

May have been brought up before, but heard Norco Aurum release planned for Whistler World Cup weekend.