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I don't get the tilting saddle hype. It's a nice to have, but only a little bit.

As others noted, thanks for this in depth insight along with other comments. One more question. Podcast with Jeff when? 🙂 EDIT: actually a genuine question. Considering you have your own operation in Taiwan, how do you handle handlebars and stems? Is it also covered in house? Obviously I'm grateful for everything shared so far, but I am obviously interested in even more 🙂

Pantone 144c New logo is shit though.

We found the marketing guy.

Sacki podcast when? I'd particularly love to know what's involved in actual bike industry forecasting. What the heck are people doing?

Thanks @Sacki , for the detail! @jeff.brines how about asking Sacki if he's up for a podcast? I best we'd all be into hearing more about Bike Yoke!

I can comment on the inverse to your question. I put a Hydra wheelset on my ebike and the loud buzzing hub is the only noise I notice while riding now.

ten minutes... not gonna let that pass the sniff test. i usually like my lies to be a touch on the believable side. (less on the contrived hype, FOMO side)

Rap is deader than dead. You’re pretty much an Eagles fan.

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Hard pass. But best of luck to everyone that has a YT or is trying to get refunded or an actual bike that they ordered. Using Flossman as the centerpiece of your comeback press release is a wild marketing move.

Rofl fuck ever buying a YT now. I'm good.

Shimano has been on the “me too” cycle with mountain bike products for at least the last 10 years. It’s all just been reactions to what SRAM and others have been doing. Nominating them for any kind of award is just a hard no in my opinion.

Oh Spomer... those contracts were with the old YT company run by old YT CEO Markus. New YT company CEO Markus has no idea what you're talking about.

Yeah, wireless brakes are gonna be a no for me, dawg

Not to derail your question, but on the topic of silent hubs, I could not move away from my Newmen wheels with Fade hubs... a bit of their grease every now and again and you cannot hear them, not on trails nor when you're trying to leave the house at 7am and don't want to wake up the kids. Does it make me chase the other noises more? Nothing could stop me from it

So I just replaced the old tech rumours thread in my bookmark bar with this page so I can check it 10 times a day. Please do not disappoint me people.

As someone who chases noises on their bike, and with a friend who has the same bike with onyx vesper hubs, I can tell you they are sweet and you don’t chase other noises any differently. Because you hear all those noises anyways. He’s broken it twice though and he’s 170lbs.

I had a couple I9 Hydra wheel sets, went Onyx on my next couple and will be picking up a third next year, maybe for my birthday for my DJ bike. I9 hubs are beautiful, light and feel great, but I prefer silence and as the grease breaks down and/or dries out, they get loud. Bigger issue is they are just built too light. I cracked a drive ring on one hub, had it spinning in the shell of another. I9 was good on warranty, but including stems I've gone to them for warranty four times...that's too much. My Onyx...

what hubs do you prefer? Personally, have two sets of Onyx hubs(trail bike and dh bike) and have an absurd amount of ride time on both. absolutely love them! great company to deal with as well. I will be a repeat customer for sure. I share just as my experience but I do genuinely ask as I am always interested in.... well just about everything haha so Id love to hear what's up in the hub department!