Suspension Component Technology/Functionality Discussion

I aired it up to 190 and back in business! 

Yes the air spring and damper are backwards compatible.

Random question; is there an agreed upon term to describe the the newer air shocks we see on the market. Stuff like the ohlins ttx2, vivid air, X2? They all have a similar look/design to them, there has got to be a name for that style right? 

I would say these are all large-volume air shocks. An extra sleeve on the outside of the air can allowing a much larger negative spring volume being the visual cue that ties them all together. Vivid is a monotube damper, Ohlins is a twin tube, X2 has been both. 

The catch is it's an inverse architecture to regular air shocks when it comes to damper body and reservoir location and how the oil flows. But regular air shocks are the reverse of coil shocks anyway, so... Yeah 😂

Air-over-damper? (from the automotive term coil over damper) Reverse air shocks? 

The reason why they exist is that you get the most performance, but servicing them is a pain compared to a regular shock. That's why they are reserved for the upper performance echelons. I guess you could make a regular air shock a twin tube if you wanted, the difference is just in where the air spring lives and subsequently the layout of the reservoir vs. damper body. 

Forgot to update the forum, the piggyback leaks and doesn't quite last a single ride before deflating back to 50 psi....

A rebuild will take care of that. Replace the bladder as well as the all the rest of the seals. If I remember correctly the kit plus the bladder was under $50 from DVO… it’s easy to do at home if you’ve worked on a rear shock before. Even if you haven’t it’s not that much work to do it.

Any idea of timeline for NA stock of the parts?

New coil/air hybrid shock from Intend just dropped: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/intend-launches-hybrid-rover-shock.

i should get my shock in the marketplace, this thing looks insane, and, it's super light too!

FOX Float X2 Live Valve Neo information below

FOX Float X2 Live Valve Neo - Own Gravity - Own Traction
FOX Factory is proud to introduce the most advanced gravity shock on the market - the Float X2 Live Valve Neo

FOX Factory is redefining gravity suspension once again with the introduction of the FLOAT X2 Live Valve Neo—a groundbreaking combination of the most advanced air shock in mountain biking and the fastest electronic MTB suspension system ever developed.

Bringing together the unmatched tunability and performance of FLOAT X2 with the real-time responsiveness of Live Valve Neo, this new platform delivers a level of traction, control, and speed that has never before been possible.

The Perfect Setting—In Every Moment

Trail conditions change constantly. Rider inputs change instantly. The FLOAT X2 Live Valve Neo adapts just as fast. At the core of the system is Live Valve Neo, which reads terrain and rider inputs 400 times per second, automatically opening or firming the shock’s compression circuit in as little as 1/70th of a second. The result is suspension that is:

- Firm when efficiency matters 
- Plush when traction is critical  
- Optimized at every moment on the trail

Unlike other electronic systems, Live Valve Neo is fast enough to confidently default to a firmer setting—without interrupting ride feel. This ability has already proven itself at the highest levels of racing, helping professional gravity athletes achieve winning performances.

The Definitive Gravity Shock—Now Faster

The FLOAT X2 has long been recognized as the definitive gravity air shock—delivering exceptional sensitivity, support, and adjustability for Enduro and Downhill racing.  With Live Valve Neo integration, that performance is elevated even further.
Monotube construction increases durability and enables pressure balancing, improving damping response and consistency under the highest loads.

Live Suspension Gives You More

Live Valve Neo doesn’t replace rider preference—it enhances it.  A 7-position Firm Mode adjust dial allows riders to fine-tune how supportive the shock feels when firmed, while The Low Speed Compression and High Speed/Low Speed Rebound dials let riders dial in their ideal descending performance. Our FOX Bike App provides the opportunity to further adapt Live Valve Neo to your ride style - with preset tunes or customization through our Precision Mode adjustments.

The combination of pressure-balanced damping, 4-way adjustability, and ultra-fast electronic control creates a system that keeps tires glued to the ground while maintaining chassis stability at speed. The ride sensation is often compared to a trophy truck—where the bike remains composed while the suspension absorbs the terrain beneath it.

For gravity riders, that translates directly into:

- Increased traction
-Reduced fatigue
- Greater confidence at speed

Own the Moment

The FLOAT X2 Live Valve Neo represents a new benchmark in suspension performance—where cutting-edge mechanical engineering meets real-time electronic intelligence. Because in gravity, speed comes from control—and control comes from traction. 

FOX FLOAT X2 Neo Product Pages
USA: https://ridefox.com/pages/fox-float-x2-live-valve-neo-learn-more

CAN: https://ca.ridefox.com/pages/fox-float-x2-live-valve-neo-learn-more

AUS: https://au.ridefox.com/pages/fox-float-x2-live-valve-neo-learn-more

Float X2 Neo Highlights
- F-S and P-SE Neo Wireless
- CAN bus version custom for ORBEA
- Trunnion and standard eyelet options
- Wide range of sizes
- 3-way adjustable – high and low speed rebound, low speed compression
- Tool-free rebound and compression adjusters
- 750g (210x55)
- Uses same battery as all other Neo products
- Pressure Balanced Monotube architecture for GRIP X2 fork damper-level performance in a rear shock
- Larger 1/2” diameter shaft for increased strength and durability
- 1cc increment air volume adjustments for ultra-pre- cise spring rate tuning (Max 350psi)
- Updated Variable Valve Control (VVC) on high-speed rebound
- Parallel reservoir orientation available for frame clearance (select sizes)
- 7-click Firm mode adjust, 11-click Low-Speed com pression (same as LV Neo Float X/DHX)

Sizes and Pricing

Here's our fresh review of the FOX Float X Live Valve Neo, tested on a short-travel trail bike (hint: we really like it...): https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/fox-float-x-live-valve-neo-review-and-discussion.  

One quick question, previous gen Super Deluxe Air had the option to be udoated to the high flow piston and the new force-named compression and rebound shim stacks. On the coil side the update was pushed out in the form of Super Deluxe Coil being renamed to the Vivid Coil.

Is there nevertheless an upgrade option for the last Super Deluxe Coil in the same vein as there is for the Air? Or could I revalve it to the same tune I had previously in my air shock and get similar results? 

(there are some cheap used options out there and I'm getting a spending itch 😂) 

Just looking at the new Maxima SG920 grease that SRAM claim is a step up from the usual suspension grease and was keen to try it in my forks. Unfortunately the service info on the SRAM site says it isn't backwards compatible and can only be used on MY27 forks, they say it will cause mayhem with older forks/seals. 

Can anyone confirm this or is it BS, has anyone tried the new grease? 

The Maxima site doesn't say anything about issues with using it in older products. 

I have nothing to back this up but sounds like BS