Yeah them saying its just a prototype and absolutely nothing more I dont believe. There is a reason it was on like 10 different bikes at...
Yeah them saying its just a prototype and absolutely nothing more I dont believe. There is a reason it was on like 10 different bikes at sea otter.
Also, having made moulds for the carbon leg-guards, rather than using an already existing diameter of carbon tube seems expensive. And some of the plastic bits looked injection moulded, not 3d-printed. So it seems like there is a lot invested for something allegedly not being planned for production.
I believe some people here in the thread said June release for this fork. Looking at how buttoned up it looks, does not seem impossible.
Every time I start thinking about a USD fork, I look at where the scratches and dings are on my fork lowers and realize they would...
Every time I start thinking about a USD fork, I look at where the scratches and dings are on my fork lowers and realize they would be a problem on an USD fork.
They do look cool though.
Jordie's comments were very interesting. It wasn't all positive. He was very clear there is a use case for the fork, but it's not what the majority is going to be looking for.
New 3d printed titanium levers for the Piccola it seems like, recognized the shape from a set they showed at some bikeshow a while back
Lets see if there are any other reworked bits. The piccolas has been out of stock for close to a year, not sure if they have built up stock or done something more.
Release is apparently april 24th according to "derbikedoc" on instagram.
Pic from a bikeshow, seems very similar to the shape in the video above.
they also posted a few days ago on the stories some riders on downhill / enduro bikes riding with a "Stay Tuned" that's why I assumed some Maxima update
they also posted a few days ago on the stories some riders on downhill / enduro bikes riding with a "Stay Tuned" that's why I assumed...
they also posted a few days ago on the stories some riders on downhill / enduro bikes riding with a "Stay Tuned" that's why I assumed some Maxima update
One might think so, but one of those riders is known for wanting the absolutely lightest components on his bike, since he does some extreme trails that require you to climb to the top with your bike on your back.
This lever will probably be for both the regular Piccola, and the Piccola HD, the HD version which is a great brake for trail/lighter enduro bikes if you as a rider isnt super heavy.
Here's a screenshot from a video of one of the riders from the story Trickstuff posted - Clearly a piccola
One might think so, but one of those riders is known for wanting the absolutely lightest components on his bike, since he does some extreme trails...
One might think so, but one of those riders is known for wanting the absolutely lightest components on his bike, since he does some extreme trails that require you to climb to the top with your bike on your back.
This lever will probably be for both the regular Piccola, and the Piccola HD, the HD version which is a great brake for trail/lighter enduro bikes if you as a rider isnt super heavy.
Here's a screenshot from a video of one of the riders from the story Trickstuff posted - Clearly a piccola
it makes sense I sent email to them a couple of weeks ago, they told me they were expecting to have Piccola HDs available end of April, but no ETA for the non-HD version. Must be Piccola then like you guys are saying
I never said refined. Just saw that they were live before their timeline they said earlier. "Coming in May". Looks like small changes only. Was hoping...
I never said refined. Just saw that they were live before their timeline they said earlier. "Coming in May". Looks like small changes only. Was hoping for a bit more tbh.
Definitely was a tr-11 or dh bike. Shock was way too long for a sprie. Also the one I saw was also definitely a dh bike...
Definitely was a tr-11 or dh bike. Shock was way too long for a sprie. Also the one I saw was also definitely a dh bike as the person is a dh athlete I saw on it
And the seat tube is bent and way too short to fit a dropper.
I’m more confused on why they’re running xts with centerlines
Oh goodness, here I go derailing the thread.... I run centerlines on saints on the DH bike. I find Shimano RT86s and up in the icetech lineup eventually go through enough heat-cool cycles on full DH laps that they become warped to the point they can no longer be trued ages before they wear out. You can get the icetech rotor OK in the stand again but as soon as you heat that sucker up again, it's back to warp-ville.
While its likely this is a parts bin build there's nothing wrong with mixing and matching brands unless someone is paying you to rep that brand specifically. Besides, on lower spec stuff, it isn't that odd to see brands put some random non-Shamano rotor on their bikes.
On the topic of the new TR11, at least this one comes with and hopefully is designed around a proper shock out of the gate. Say whatever you want about updated/not updated geometry and spec, but if they messed with the kinematics enough to suit the shock on there (and aren't just heavily relying on HBO....), it should signal the intentions of this bike right away whereas the last one was like a flag to the world that they knew they didn't make a proper race bike when they specced the float x from factory.
The new TR11 leverage curve is basically the same. It’s still extremely progressive.
The Float X was an odd choice, but at the time, the other Fox air shock was failing if you looked at it funny. Although I don’t know why they wouldn’t have just gone with a coil shock.
Maybe the Float X is an underrated shock. I’ve heard from a lot of people that you can actually get it to perform really well with the right tune.
My Float X lasted a whole 2 days before it was blown up and leaking. Also shipped with more volume spacers than the manual suggested it could fit, which was perplexing. I switched it out for a DHX2 and haven't looked back. I don't believe the new frame is different at all from the last, besides paint colors. My 'previous' raw TR11 has the chain stay adjustment and headset cups as well.
FW is really the little team that could. It's pretty amazing the access to the good stuff that they get.
The amount of racing technology and knowledge located in North Carolina is pretty unmatched in the country and even the world. There are a few full size wind tunnels around Charlotte, what I was surprised by was the amount of cycling stuff already on the wall there, it looks like every helmet brand with different models and a bunch of different road kits.
After the most recent NASCAR chassis changes wind tunnel time has been really limited for the teams so there is excess capacity in the facilities and I believe prices have come down so it is more reasonable for people to fund fun projects like this.
Oh goodness, here I go derailing the thread.... I run centerlines on saints on the DH bike. I find Shimano RT86s and up in the icetech...
Oh goodness, here I go derailing the thread.... I run centerlines on saints on the DH bike. I find Shimano RT86s and up in the icetech lineup eventually go through enough heat-cool cycles on full DH laps that they become warped to the point they can no longer be trued ages before they wear out. You can get the icetech rotor OK in the stand again but as soon as you heat that sucker up again, it's back to warp-ville.
While its likely this is a parts bin build there's nothing wrong with mixing and matching brands unless someone is paying you to rep that brand specifically. Besides, on lower spec stuff, it isn't that odd to see brands put some random non-Shamano rotor on their bikes.
On the topic of the new TR11, at least this one comes with and hopefully is designed around a proper shock out of the gate. Say whatever you want about updated/not updated geometry and spec, but if they messed with the kinematics enough to suit the shock on there (and aren't just heavily relying on HBO....), it should signal the intentions of this bike right away whereas the last one was like a flag to the world that they knew they didn't make a proper race bike when they specced the float x from factory.
It also has 41% progression and short chain stays for l and XL. It was a fumble
The new TR11 leverage curve is basically the same. It’s still extremely progressive.The Float X was an odd choice, but at the time, the other Fox...
The new TR11 leverage curve is basically the same. It’s still extremely progressive.
The Float X was an odd choice, but at the time, the other Fox air shock was failing if you looked at it funny. Although I don’t know why they wouldn’t have just gone with a coil shock.
Maybe the Float X is an underrated shock. I’ve heard from a lot of people that you can actually get it to perform really well with the right tune.
The reason is because it doesn’t fit. No dh air shock fits in the small or medium. Cost cutting for sure too. That shock is horrible for dh and had issues as well. Althonless wide spread. L and XL can run anything. This bike looks to mimic the “factory team” build they had last year racing so they used coils.
The new TR11 leverage curve is basically the same. It’s still extremely progressive.The Float X was an odd choice, but at the time, the other Fox...
The new TR11 leverage curve is basically the same. It’s still extremely progressive.
The Float X was an odd choice, but at the time, the other Fox air shock was failing if you looked at it funny. Although I don’t know why they wouldn’t have just gone with a coil shock.
Maybe the Float X is an underrated shock. I’ve heard from a lot of people that you can actually get it to perform really well with the right tune.
Yeah its pretty odd to design a bike that doesn't fit one of the most popular shocks on the market? The Float X is OK and yeah has more tuneability than a lot of alternatives but it wouldn't be my first choice for a DH shock
Oh goodness, here I go derailing the thread.... I run centerlines on saints on the DH bike. I find Shimano RT86s and up in the icetech...
Oh goodness, here I go derailing the thread.... I run centerlines on saints on the DH bike. I find Shimano RT86s and up in the icetech lineup eventually go through enough heat-cool cycles on full DH laps that they become warped to the point they can no longer be trued ages before they wear out. You can get the icetech rotor OK in the stand again but as soon as you heat that sucker up again, it's back to warp-ville.
While its likely this is a parts bin build there's nothing wrong with mixing and matching brands unless someone is paying you to rep that brand specifically. Besides, on lower spec stuff, it isn't that odd to see brands put some random non-Shamano rotor on their bikes.
On the topic of the new TR11, at least this one comes with and hopefully is designed around a proper shock out of the gate. Say whatever you want about updated/not updated geometry and spec, but if they messed with the kinematics enough to suit the shock on there (and aren't just heavily relying on HBO....), it should signal the intentions of this bike right away whereas the last one was like a flag to the world that they knew they didn't make a proper race bike when they specced the float x from factory.
Those starting and ending leverage ratio numbers don’t match the numbers Transition published for the bike. The Transition numbers give you more like 33%.
And on rotors installed wrong way around.
There's a pic a few pages back of a very proto-looking lever.
Edit: here ya go (can't remember how to link to a specific post): https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/2020-MTB-Tech-rumors-and-inno…
Jordie's comments were very interesting. It wasn't all positive. He was very clear there is a use case for the fork, but it's not what the majority is going to be looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ZfB-Ixsqg
Care to summarize what those use cases are? Sorry, feeling too lazy to go find the comments
eebs. mentions fork is gonna be heavy.
Super-crappy news from Ari; hundreds of bikes stolen
Wasn't it already determined they are Brembos? Only makes sense, seeing as Brembo owns Ohlins.
Someone guessed they were Brembos, dunno about confirmation tho...
what's trickstuff been teasing on their IG account? New maxima? I heard a new piccola was coming as well, but really looks like new maxima
ugh, that SUCKS for ARI
The tease:
New 3d printed titanium levers for the Piccola it seems like, recognized the shape from a set they showed at some bikeshow a while back
Lets see if there are any other reworked bits. The piccolas has been out of stock for close to a year, not sure if they have built up stock or done something more.
Release is apparently april 24th according to "derbikedoc" on instagram.
Pic from a bikeshow, seems very similar to the shape in the video above.
they also posted a few days ago on the stories some riders on downhill / enduro bikes riding with a "Stay Tuned" that's why I assumed some Maxima update
One might think so, but one of those riders is known for wanting the absolutely lightest components on his bike, since he does some extreme trails that require you to climb to the top with your bike on your back.
This lever will probably be for both the regular Piccola, and the Piccola HD, the HD version which is a great brake for trail/lighter enduro bikes if you as a rider isnt super heavy.
Here's a screenshot from a video of one of the riders from the story Trickstuff posted - Clearly a piccola
it makes sense I sent email to them a couple of weeks ago, they told me they were expecting to have Piccola HDs available end of April, but no ETA for the non-HD version. Must be Piccola then like you guys are saying
Holy Shit. They found Nessie?
New link configuration on Demo, links are not exposed as much as before, they are no longer below BB.
Edit: screenshot is from latest video: https://www.instagram.com/ohlinsracingmtb/
frameworks in the wind tunnel!
And the seat tube is bent and way too short to fit a dropper.
Oh goodness, here I go derailing the thread.... I run centerlines on saints on the DH bike. I find Shimano RT86s and up in the icetech lineup eventually go through enough heat-cool cycles on full DH laps that they become warped to the point they can no longer be trued ages before they wear out. You can get the icetech rotor OK in the stand again but as soon as you heat that sucker up again, it's back to warp-ville.
While its likely this is a parts bin build there's nothing wrong with mixing and matching brands unless someone is paying you to rep that brand specifically. Besides, on lower spec stuff, it isn't that odd to see brands put some random non-Shamano rotor on their bikes.
On the topic of the new TR11, at least this one comes with and hopefully is designed around a proper shock out of the gate. Say whatever you want about updated/not updated geometry and spec, but if they messed with the kinematics enough to suit the shock on there (and aren't just heavily relying on HBO....), it should signal the intentions of this bike right away whereas the last one was like a flag to the world that they knew they didn't make a proper race bike when they specced the float x from factory.
FW is really the little team that could. It's pretty amazing the access to the good stuff that they get.
The new TR11 leverage curve is basically the same. It’s still extremely progressive.
The Float X was an odd choice, but at the time, the other Fox air shock was failing if you looked at it funny. Although I don’t know why they wouldn’t have just gone with a coil shock.
Maybe the Float X is an underrated shock. I’ve heard from a lot of people that you can actually get it to perform really well with the right tune.
My Float X lasted a whole 2 days before it was blown up and leaking. Also shipped with more volume spacers than the manual suggested it could fit, which was perplexing. I switched it out for a DHX2 and haven't looked back. I don't believe the new frame is different at all from the last, besides paint colors. My 'previous' raw TR11 has the chain stay adjustment and headset cups as well.
The amount of racing technology and knowledge located in North Carolina is pretty unmatched in the country and even the world. There are a few full size wind tunnels around Charlotte, what I was surprised by was the amount of cycling stuff already on the wall there, it looks like every helmet brand with different models and a bunch of different road kits.
After the most recent NASCAR chassis changes wind tunnel time has been really limited for the teams so there is excess capacity in the facilities and I believe prices have come down so it is more reasonable for people to fund fun projects like this.
https://a2wt.com/cycling
It also has 41% progression and short chain stays for l and XL. It was a fumble
The reason is because it doesn’t fit. No dh air shock fits in the small or medium. Cost cutting for sure too. That shock is horrible for dh and had issues as well. Althonless wide spread. L and XL can run anything. This bike looks to mimic the “factory team” build they had last year racing so they used coils.
Yeah its pretty odd to design a bike that doesn't fit one of the most popular shocks on the market? The Float X is OK and yeah has more tuneability than a lot of alternatives but it wouldn't be my first choice for a DH shock
41%!? Holy no bottom out cow batman. Its a different convex type curve (as opposed to the concave or linear progression stuff I'm used to riding). As close as it gets to linear off the top then starts diving down hard. http://www.avalanchedownhillracing.com/Bike%20set%20ups/2022%20TR11%20V3%20Alloy.htm
Those starting and ending leverage ratio numbers don’t match the numbers Transition published for the bike. The Transition numbers give you more like 33%.
Still looking for a bike with 69% progression and 420mm stays.