2023 Racing Talk

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9/18/2023 1:39pm
JokullThor wrote:
They’ve been posting pictures on instagram story where they’re holding hands and constant use of heart emojis, looks like they are dating for sure. BK took...

They’ve been posting pictures on instagram story where they’re holding hands and constant use of heart emojis, looks like they are dating for sure.

BK took her in as an employee when she was 17 years old and he was 30, thats kinda child grooming territory.

mfoga wrote:
The grooming part is what I was worried about too and kind of hopped was not true.  I have come to like BK as a rider...

The grooming part is what I was worried about too and kind of hopped was not true.  I have come to like BK as a rider and what we see but that would make it hard to look at him the same way.   That is just creepy.  

mattknott wrote:
Dude it’s a story as old as time, older guy who the younger girl looks up to and falls for, how many 50+ year old married...

Dude it’s a story as old as time, older guy who the younger girl looks up to and falls for, how many 50+ year old married with kids professors have been boning their 19 yo students over the years? It isn’t that weird, she can consent.

and The Most Fried Take award goes to...

 

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mfoga wrote:
The grooming part is what I was worried about too and kind of hopped was not true.  I have come to like BK as a rider...

The grooming part is what I was worried about too and kind of hopped was not true.  I have come to like BK as a rider and what we see but that would make it hard to look at him the same way.   That is just creepy.  

mattknott wrote:
Dude it’s a story as old as time, older guy who the younger girl looks up to and falls for, how many 50+ year old married...

Dude it’s a story as old as time, older guy who the younger girl looks up to and falls for, how many 50+ year old married with kids professors have been boning their 19 yo students over the years? It isn’t that weird, she can consent.

owl-x wrote:

and The Most Fried Take award goes to...

 

Might not be morally right but he's not wrong.

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dylanjp006 wrote:
Just something interesting from the ixs cup in verbier, in the u17 mens and womens category two kiwi juinors who will be racing world cups next...

Just something interesting from the ixs cup in verbier, in the u17 mens and womens category two kiwi juinors who will be racing world cups next year took the race by storm. Tyler Waite 2nd in u17 mens with some mistakes - he was fastest in qualis, Ellie Hulsebosch took the win in u17 womens for both qualis and finals. Those two are going to have a big impact in juinors next year. 

 

What the hell are you people feeding your kids?!? 

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dylanjp006 wrote:
Just something interesting from the ixs cup in verbier, in the u17 mens and womens category two kiwi juinors who will be racing world cups next...

Just something interesting from the ixs cup in verbier, in the u17 mens and womens category two kiwi juinors who will be racing world cups next year took the race by storm. Tyler Waite 2nd in u17 mens with some mistakes - he was fastest in qualis, Ellie Hulsebosch took the win in u17 womens for both qualis and finals. Those two are going to have a big impact in juinors next year. 

 

Losifer wrote:

What the hell are you people feeding your kids?!? 

And where can I get some?

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9/18/2023 6:19pm
Losifer wrote:

What the hell are you people feeding your kids?!? 

Im wondering the exact same thing, scary thing is theres some other kids YOUNGER then these two who are already faster than them. 

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9/19/2023 3:49am

Now EDR season has finished who thinks richie rude might race the last two DH rounds ??

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9/19/2023 4:04am Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 4:05am

One thing I've noticed about the Kiwi racers - especially the Junior women - is what a tight knit group they are. No matter which of them wins or loses, they always celebrate together. After the incredible World Champs performance it looks like the 2024 World Champs race could be epic when Eliana Hulsebosch is added into the mix.

I know UCI gets a lot of cr*p this year, but one thing they got right was making the Juniors finals available live. The women and men Elites are going to be pretty thrilling in the next 2 or 3 years, when the final overall standings top 10 are likely to include 5 or 6 riders who are 20 years old or younger.

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9/19/2023 4:43am

Now EDR season has finished who thinks richie rude might race the last two DH rounds ??

Does he have enough points or can he get a us jersey? 

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9/19/2023 5:25am

Now EDR season has finished who thinks richie rude might race the last two DH rounds ??

mfoga wrote:

Does he have enough points or can he get a us jersey? 

I think UCI points work across all disciplines. That's why blenki and connor fearon etc can ride in EDR and EDR E. 

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9/19/2023 5:36am

He has enough points from US nationals and Crankworx

9/19/2023 5:39am

Now EDR season has finished who thinks richie rude might race the last two DH rounds ??

Curious to see if he races the US Open this weekend at Killington. Lot of big names are signed up already according to the Vital podcast. 

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9/19/2023 6:36am

I am excited to see Richie on the DH bike. I love the way he throws a bike around. At the same time Richie moving to DH is one more nail in the Enduro coffin. 

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9/19/2023 7:29am
One thing I've noticed about the Kiwi racers - especially the Junior women - is what a tight knit group they are. No matter which of...

One thing I've noticed about the Kiwi racers - especially the Junior women - is what a tight knit group they are. No matter which of them wins or loses, they always celebrate together. After the incredible World Champs performance it looks like the 2024 World Champs race could be epic when Eliana Hulsebosch is added into the mix.

I know UCI gets a lot of cr*p this year, but one thing they got right was making the Juniors finals available live. The women and men Elites are going to be pretty thrilling in the next 2 or 3 years, when the final overall standings top 10 are likely to include 5 or 6 riders who are 20 years old or younger.

Yeah completely agree, its seen at even the national rounds - yes everyone is competitive but theres rarely any times where even the slower racers are ignored or kinda thought less of because they aren’t as quick. World champs and even just the whole season for juinors will be really interesting next year. Nz finally starting to make a comeback after not having a heap of action over the past few years in dh. 

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9/19/2023 11:40am
schwaaa31 wrote:

Curious to see if he races the US Open this weekend at Killington. Lot of big names are signed up already according to the Vital podcast. 

Weird that the Registered Rider list isn't available on Bike Reg?
Or is that just Zone4 that shows that?

9/19/2023 2:05pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2023 7:32pm

I wonder if the us open is a tester for the double header dh and ews listed on 2024 UCI calendar, September 28-29 outside Europe. Would make sense for dh, snowshoe, killington, st.anne. Good ender to the season. 

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9/20/2023 12:18am

Now EDR season has finished who thinks richie rude might race the last two DH rounds ??

mfoga wrote:

Does he have enough points or can he get a us jersey? 

I think UCI points work across all disciplines. That's why blenki and connor fearon etc can ride in EDR and EDR E. 

Not entirely sure after world cup series points and UCI points dilemma. I assume that EDR are only world cup series points. Therefore, Richie needed to attend other DH Races to have enough UCI Points. 
 

On the otherside switching from DH to Enduro might be easier, because DH counts UCI points (except Semi Final). I do not know, how many Monopolly dollar you need to enter an EDR. 🤷🏼
 

E.g if a Team is registered as an Enduro and DH Team, they have the “bought” starting places. Previously, the EWS had more flexibility to allow DH riders to participate and help to promote the EWS. 

9/20/2023 2:42am
mfoga wrote:

Does he have enough points or can he get a us jersey? 

I think UCI points work across all disciplines. That's why blenki and connor fearon etc can ride in EDR and EDR E. 

manny.bike wrote:
Not entirely sure after world cup series points and UCI points dilemma. I assume that EDR are only world cup series points. Therefore, Richie needed to...

Not entirely sure after world cup series points and UCI points dilemma. I assume that EDR are only world cup series points. Therefore, Richie needed to attend other DH Races to have enough UCI Points. 
 

On the otherside switching from DH to Enduro might be easier, because DH counts UCI points (except Semi Final). I do not know, how many Monopolly dollar you need to enter an EDR. 🤷🏼
 

E.g if a Team is registered as an Enduro and DH Team, they have the “bought” starting places. Previously, the EWS had more flexibility to allow DH riders to participate and help to promote the EWS. 

Rude has 76 UCI points

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9/20/2023 7:06am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2023 7:08am

So...is Billy Bolt going to be present at SnowShoe again this year?  

Because if he is and a USA racer wins, I don't suggest doing it in the pits.  Maybe down the hill a bit...

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/jorge-prados-bike-catches-fire-championship-celebration

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9/20/2023 12:15pm

Easy there, short eyes

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9/21/2023 3:14am
mattknott wrote:
Dude it’s a story as old as time, older guy who the younger girl looks up to and falls for, how many 50+ year old married...

Dude it’s a story as old as time, older guy who the younger girl looks up to and falls for, how many 50+ year old married with kids professors have been boning their 19 yo students over the years? It isn’t that weird, she can consent.

owl-x wrote:

and The Most Fried Take award goes to...

 

mattknott wrote:

Spoken like a true beta cuck

guessing this is bernies burner account then..

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9/21/2023 3:19am Edited Date/Time 9/21/2023 3:20am

I don't suppose there's any chance of a separate thread being set up for rumours about the Pivot team's love lives? Not really racing talk.

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9/21/2023 6:15am
bizutch wrote:
So...is Billy Bolt going to be present at SnowShoe again this year?   Because if he is and a USA racer wins, I don't suggest doing it...

So...is Billy Bolt going to be present at SnowShoe again this year?  

Because if he is and a USA racer wins, I don't suggest doing it in the pits.  Maybe down the hill a bit...

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/jorge-prados-bike-catches-fire-championship-celebration

I dont think Billy has ever been at Snowshoe. Stu Baylor was there the first year and it was awesome pretty sure Luca blew up his bike after the race doing burnouts. That pit party the first year will never be topped probably because it was the last round that year. 

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I dont think Billy has ever been at Snowshoe. Stu Baylor was there the first year and it was awesome pretty sure Luca blew up his...

I dont think Billy has ever been at Snowshoe. Stu Baylor was there the first year and it was awesome pretty sure Luca blew up his bike after the race doing burnouts. That pit party the first year will never be topped probably because it was the last round that year. 

Duh.  I meant to say Stu but I've been watching too many of Bolt's video clips lately.  Thank you.

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9/21/2023 7:18am
austin-NC wrote:
I dont think Billy has ever been at Snowshoe. Stu Baylor was there the first year and it was awesome pretty sure Luca blew up his...

I dont think Billy has ever been at Snowshoe. Stu Baylor was there the first year and it was awesome pretty sure Luca blew up his bike after the race doing burnouts. That pit party the first year will never be topped probably because it was the last round that year. 

bizutch wrote:
Duh.  I meant to say Stu but I've been watching too many of Bolt's video clips lately.  Thank you.

Duh.  I meant to say Stu but I've been watching too many of Bolt's video clips lately.  Thank you.

haha that would be sick if Bill showed up though. I think he was actually at the Andorra race this year, ended up hurting his shoulder at the bike park and missing a couple races though. 

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9/22/2023 2:42am

Fox US Open of MTB Downhill finals are this Sunday, September 24, at Killington.

The start time for the Open class finals is TBD, because the amateur classes start racing at 11:15 with Open women and men starting after all other classes are done, and the amount of time it will take for the amateurs depends on how many racers there are. Last year's men's and women's champs (Norton & Hoffmann) are apparently back this year.

No live stream, but apparently Vital will have a replay on its Youtube channel after the races are done. Live timing will be on ChronoRace.

Qualifying/seeding is Saturday.
First place prize in women and men Open is $15,000.

 

 

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9/22/2023 7:02am
Fox US Open of MTB Downhill finals are this Sunday, September 24, at Killington. The start time for the Open class finals is TBD, because the...

Fox US Open of MTB Downhill finals are this Sunday, September 24, at Killington.

The start time for the Open class finals is TBD, because the amateur classes start racing at 11:15 with Open women and men starting after all other classes are done, and the amount of time it will take for the amateurs depends on how many racers there are. Last year's men's and women's champs (Norton & Hoffmann) are apparently back this year.

No live stream, but apparently Vital will have a replay on its Youtube channel after the races are done. Live timing will be on ChronoRace.

Qualifying/seeding is Saturday.
First place prize in women and men Open is $15,000.

 

 

For anyone who hasn’t listened to the Vital podcast, I recommend it. Good rundown of the US Open, its history, and how they’re broadcasting it. 
Frankly, I’d be happy if ESO did the same, but then again I rarely get to watch WC races live anyway.

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9/22/2023 2:51pm

Just for sh*ts and giggles, let's compare:

Prize money for the US Open men and women in the Open class:

Open Class Downhill Prizing - Men and Women (Equal):
1st - $15,000 
2nd - $7500 
3rd - $3750  
4th - $1875  
5th - $937.50

Total for 1st through 5th place: $29,062.50

Elite Men and Women prize money for UCI World Cup races:

1st - 3750 Euro
2nd - 2100 Euro
3rd - 1250 Euro
4th - 800  Euro
5th - 600 Euro

6th - 500 Euro
7th - 350 Euro
8th - 300 Euro
9th - 250  Euro
10th - 200 Euro

Total for 1st through 10th place: 10,100 Euro

Notes: (1) Current exchange rate is $1.06 USD = 1.00 Euro  (2) US Open prize money source: https://usopenbike.squarespace.com/us-open-downhill (3) UCI prize money source: 2023 UCI MTB Financial Obligations.

(4) The first place winners in Men and Women Open at the US Open each get more money than the top 10 finishers at a World Cup combined.

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9/22/2023 3:27pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2023 3:28pm

Crankworx also pays out more than UCI for each round with a bonus that grows each year if you hit 1199 points in the series. Bonus will be 20k next year

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9/22/2023 3:38pm
BGoldstone wrote:
Crankworx also pays out more than UCI for each round with a bonus that grows each year if you hit 1199 points in the series. Bonus...

Crankworx also pays out more than UCI for each round with a bonus that grows each year if you hit 1199 points in the series. Bonus will be 20k next year

You're right. I think the prize list for the Whistler Crankworx Whipoff showed that the winner got more prize money than the 2nd place finisher at the UCI World Cup downhill. Can't remember off the top of my head. It's embarrassing.

 

9/22/2023 7:19pm

FYI for anyone who wants to either geek out on live timing or just check out times after the qualifying and finals, here's the link to the live timing: https://prod.chronorace.be/angular/results.html#/uci/event/20230922_snow/DHI/CG101/dh/1011

They'll do live timing for both qualis and finals.

Qualifying / seeding starts at 1:15 Eastern time / 10:15 Pacific on Saturday. I assume they'll start with the amateurs... not sure. Their schedule says it runs until 4:30 Eastern.

Finals begin 11:15 Eastern time on Sunday.

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