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If it AR was the culprit you would feel the Session has having less stable of a balance than the V5. Could just be the leverage progression, V5 has around 38% vs 25% for the Session, a big change in rate can make a bike feel this way I guess, otherwise the curve shape is similar on both bikes. Didn't Neko say he wanted some reasonable amount of pregression and as flat as a curve as possible as he found that made the bikes more predictable ?
Lower more rearward idler, more chain wrap, no need for lower pulley
The biggest change is the virtual pivot suspension layout.
Also, full Sram, that's a change from the first gen Druid...
Very nice looking. Except that seat tube mast. Massive seat tube just makes the transition to seatpost look a bit goofy (to me anyways.)
some detail shots of intense DH rig from windrock
https://www.vitalmtb.com/intense-prototype-279-hp6-windrock-dhse
Quite a skinny rocker link...
That looks like it would be exceedingly difficult to get good pivot alignment and consistent layout on that hand welded frame.
It looks like there's three pivots, the bottom bracket, and the shock mount all going through the two side pieces that are welded together, so thankfully tons of features to fixture while welding.
ED: Also since they're all going between the same two side pieces as long as you get those two right everything behind them follows quite nicely.
Done it before a year or so ago...not fun haha (I can barely make sense of it now since I tried to layer a couple of pivot changes on each other)
This is my sketching a while ago just coming to grips with how to determine the IC of a 6-bar layout. I'm not going near drawing the IC migration paths by hand for this monstrosity, I'd much prefer to program it out if I really had to.
I thought Intense had settle for a final version of their frame (at least for the front triangle).
So has the forbidden team been racing the new druid or a yet to be released druid-naught ? Edit; Rhys says he’s been racing it all year
Come on! A bit more love, please.
Their overlay simply varies in tyre size. How then should the rest be compared?
Linkage driven Horst link. Or what was it called a few pages ago, the sexbar (from the fauxbar)?
For some reasons I can't see that name catching on, or maybe I do?
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Having poor frame alignment never them bothered before.........
I still remember having a pivot bolt come loose on my M9 at a national race, taking it out in the hotel room to put loctite on it and re-torque it, only to have my friend have to stand on the seat stay so I could thread the bolt back into the upper link. I sold that frame right quick after that…
He says it, but I find it hard to believe that he is racing a 130 bike at a place like Maydena and coming in 4th only five seconds behind Connor who was on a dreadnought. I’ve owned a Druid and yes it feels like a lot of travel but not that much more travel.
typical Intense quality there
Looks like the Sight 2024 is moving to HP.
I assume the Sight and Optic will both be HP bikes at this point, I think there was some fairly decent rumour of this several pages back.
That just looks like a Shore frame to me, but I could be wrong
Yup, my bad, its the Shore.
Doesnt it say William, Shore, Rampage at the top of the computer screen, and didnt he ride a Shore at Rampage?
Is it just me or is a high pivot Sight, let alone an Optic, the exact opposite of where the industry is going lately?
I mean, the new Druid seems very similar to what I would expect from the new Optic, and maybe a slightly increased travel Sight.
Maybe the Sight stays as a traditional horst link, low/med pivot 150mm bike.
Not sure what you mean by "the exact opposite of where the industry is going lately"
There are fewer and fewer really high pivot bikes being made, they are moving more towards mid to low height high pivot layouts, people have negative comments about high pivot bikes (balance changes going through the travel, noise and drag from the system, issues with the chain stretch on the lower chain length), pro riders in some cases moving away from HP bikes to standard bikes, etc.
I kinda get the allure for race bikes, so DH and enduro, but even there there are companies sticking to the tried and tested layout. It seems a VERY weird move to make your bread and butter bikes high pivot. It seems too polarizing.
Neko had a good discussion about it in his earlier vids.... he obviously chose no HP.