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4/3/2023 1:27pm

oh yes i forgot about that video - Personally im a huge fan of lugged frames, from the way they look to their "apparent" strength.
 

4/3/2023 6:31pm

New SID clearly labeled at SID SL. 
So the 'normal SID' must be the downcountry version and this is the 'world cup race' version.

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4/3/2023 7:32pm

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 Fingers crossed 🤞 Cannondale has something on the way

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4/3/2023 9:40pm

Habit

4/4/2023 5:37am
lkshpp wrote:
 Interesting brake mount... Grabbed from the recent Gastovlogcubesr&dprojects

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 Interesting brake mount...

Grabbed from the recent Gastovlogcubesr&dprojects

I would be curious if someone can test what this does. I tried to put it in Linkage but I didn't find how to have the caliper mounted opposite to where the arm connects onto the plate. I would expect it to behave similarly to a floating brake with the frame attachment below the main pivot, aka increasing Anti-Rise. Considering how 4bar suspensions have inherently low anti-rise numbers this would seem logical.

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4/4/2023 6:01am

It does what it was designed to do. And it hugely depends in which link is longer overall. With the same layout you can make the floating brake link antisquat or pro squat by juet changing the link length (they used to all have adjustable length through threaded rosejoints and Saracen also had an adjustment built in). 

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4/4/2023 6:44am

New EXT Aria press release on the home page, msrp price: 1060,00 € / 1150,00 $ Shocked, (still less than an Eleven Six...)

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4/4/2023 6:50am

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 Here is a Pivot lugged frame in the secret area of their warehouse

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4/4/2023 6:54am

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 Pivot 3-D printing a new front triangle for test fitment 

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4/4/2023 7:23am

I thought the one spotted in NZ a while back was the weagle jack shaft idler high pivot thing? I don't see any obvious mounts for the jake shaft for an idler? Maybe this is something different? Otherwise sure looks similar. And looks identical to the pb photos. Interesting. 

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4/4/2023 7:46am

The seat tube is very very straight for a DH bike...

4/4/2023 8:34am
kcy4130 wrote:
I thought the one spotted in NZ a while back was the weagle jack shaft idler high pivot thing? I don't see any obvious mounts for...

I thought the one spotted in NZ a while back was the weagle jack shaft idler high pivot thing? I don't see any obvious mounts for the jake shaft for an idler? Maybe this is something different? Otherwise sure looks similar. And looks identical to the pb photos. Interesting. 

I'm no expert but I would definitely have both a standard drivetrain version and a newfangled magic drivetrain version, so my riders can try both and pick which they prefer.

 

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4/4/2023 8:52am
kcy4130 wrote:
I thought the one spotted in NZ a while back was the weagle jack shaft idler high pivot thing? I don't see any obvious mounts for...

I thought the one spotted in NZ a while back was the weagle jack shaft idler high pivot thing? I don't see any obvious mounts for the jake shaft for an idler? Maybe this is something different? Otherwise sure looks similar. And looks identical to the pb photos. Interesting. 

That's not the new Phoenix. That wall hanger has DW6 linkage. Odds are that Pivot's been working on lugged prototypes for a while and the new Phoenix isn't the first bike going down this road. 

I'm definitely curious to know how many and for how long companies have been building lugged prototypes in recent years. The lug/tube concept isn't new, just cool new ways to make the lugs. 

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4/4/2023 9:31am
That's not the new Phoenix. That wall hanger has DW6 linkage. Odds are that Pivot's been working on lugged prototypes for a while and the new Phoenix...

That's not the new Phoenix. That wall hanger has DW6 linkage. Odds are that Pivot's been working on lugged prototypes for a while and the new Phoenix isn't the first bike going down this road. 

I'm definitely curious to know how many and for how long companies have been building lugged prototypes in recent years. The lug/tube concept isn't new, just cool new ways to make the lugs. 

The wall hanger looks to just be a DW not a dw6. And yeah, I guess it shouldn't be surprising that different prototypes have a family resemblance, they probably try to use the same molds for the tubes and only alter the lugs. It is dam good looking! 

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4/4/2023 1:52pm

Any news for the alu Devinci prototype, the so called Chainsaw? Is it just an alu Spartan HP, or is it something different (like with a lil bit more travel)?

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4/4/2023 10:57pm

Wasn't the original prototype for the Spartan named 'Chainsaw'? I seem to recall Devinci using the name on the bike Smith rode in Pietermaritzburg but then they decided to change the name for release, they had a reason but I don't remember why. Maybe 'Chainsaw' is just a prototype name?

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4/5/2023 1:44am
Wanted to start a thread for new bike tech and rumors. Recently, the racing rumors page has turned into an Ebike debate so lets get this...

Wanted to start a thread for new bike tech and rumors. Recently, the racing rumors page has turned into an Ebike debate so lets get this thread started off right!

First up, Santa Cruz Heckler
 

This thread started with a new SC eBike. Any update on their lineup? The Bullit and Heckler are around 3 Years old… and lighter Motorsystems have been introduced in the meantime? 

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4/5/2023 6:38am Edited Date/Time 4/5/2023 6:41am

Santa Cruz new colors and build kits out? Not sure how old that information is, looks like they’ve replaced some of the build kits with RS forks  

 

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4/5/2023 7:16am

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 New Vittoria Air-Liners may be on the way

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4/5/2023 7:25am Edited Date/Time 4/5/2023 7:27am

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Bruni not on Fox helmets anymore??

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4/5/2023 8:00am

Hasn't this been known for quite a while?

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4/5/2023 8:04am
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Santa Cruz new colors and build kits out? Not sure how old that information is, looks like they’ve replaced some of the build kits with RS...

Santa Cruz new colors and build kits out? Not sure how old that information is, looks like they’ve replaced some of the build kits with RS forks  

 

Those launched with the new SRAM drivetrain. You'll see a lot more all-SRAM builds (including forks) in Santa Cruz's lineup.

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4/5/2023 8:23am

our digit datum vid went up

 

 

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4/5/2023 1:51pm
Masjo wrote:
Wasn't the original prototype for the Spartan named 'Chainsaw'? I seem to recall Devinci using the name on the bike Smith rode in Pietermaritzburg but then...

Wasn't the original prototype for the Spartan named 'Chainsaw'? I seem to recall Devinci using the name on the bike Smith rode in Pietermaritzburg but then they decided to change the name for release, they had a reason but I don't remember why. Maybe 'Chainsaw' is just a prototype name?

Back on page 370 in this thread some screenshots from a webstore were posted for a new bike called Chainsaw. Little less than 16.5kg, with a 170mm fork, together with the other details it seems like an alu version of the Spartan. And yet the proto photos suggest a more gravity oriented bike with the Boxxer mounted up front…

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4/5/2023 3:51pm
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This thread started with a new SC eBike. Any update on their lineup? The Bullit and Heckler are around 3 Years old… and lighter Motorsystems have...

This thread started with a new SC eBike. Any update on their lineup? The Bullit and Heckler are around 3 Years old… and lighter Motorsystems have been introduced in the meantime? 

I've heard they have a light weight e-mtb coming out, think Kenevo SL.

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4/5/2023 9:39pm

New Saint crank on the syndicate Insta?

Looks to me like an XTR style bolt and preload collar nds crank. 

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4/5/2023 10:22pm
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New Saint crank on the syndicate Insta? Looks to me like an XTR style bolt and preload collar nds crank.   

New Saint crank on the syndicate Insta?

Looks to me like an XTR style bolt and preload collar nds crank. 

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If that's Laurie's bike, he's been known to run Hope cranks with Saint stickers.

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4/5/2023 11:44pm
Masjo wrote:
Wasn't the original prototype for the Spartan named 'Chainsaw'? I seem to recall Devinci using the name on the bike Smith rode in Pietermaritzburg but then...

Wasn't the original prototype for the Spartan named 'Chainsaw'? I seem to recall Devinci using the name on the bike Smith rode in Pietermaritzburg but then they decided to change the name for release, they had a reason but I don't remember why. Maybe 'Chainsaw' is just a prototype name?

Back on page 370 in this thread some screenshots from a webstore were posted for a new bike called Chainsaw. Little less than 16.5kg, with a...

Back on page 370 in this thread some screenshots from a webstore were posted for a new bike called Chainsaw. Little less than 16.5kg, with a 170mm fork, together with the other details it seems like an alu version of the Spartan. And yet the proto photos suggest a more gravity oriented bike with the Boxxer mounted up front…

Sorry, I should have been more clear with my thoughts here. My thought was that maybe the 'Chainsaw' prototype is  a) just a new Spartan since that was the 'old' pre-release name, or  b) it could be that they're using 'Chainsaw' as a general name for (long-travel) prototypes, or  c) it is in fact a new 'park' bike like a Canyon Torque that could be a DH bike and enduro bike for some. 

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4/6/2023 12:30am

Hey tech Gurus - wondering if someone can clarify something for me; Is the new sram transmission Crank + chainring compatible with the original eagle technology cassette and derailleur if a new T type chain is used? 

Cracked and iscg mount so looking for alternative bash guard options 

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