2020 Mountain Bike Team Rumors

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afterbang99 1/15/2020 3:25am
1/15/2020 3:25am Edited Date/Time 1/15/2020 3:26am
crooksy wrote:
Spotted on Andreu's IG story.....MSC Bikes?
https://instagram.com/stories/andreulacondeguy/2221124029006839591?utm_…
I don’t see the post? Or is it me.
We have MSC bikes here in Australia it seems... Tandem Down Rampage anyone? http://www.mscbikes.com.au/ziontandem
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Hyperpower! 1/15/2020 3:47am
1/15/2020 3:47am Edited Date/Time 1/15/2020 3:50am
crooksy wrote:
Spotted on Andreu's IG story.....MSC Bikes?
https://instagram.com/stories/andreulacondeguy/2221124029006839591?utm_…
Nah, I think he used to race DH for them many years ago before he turned to FR/Slopestyle..

Edit:
Just confirmed it:

https://www.ciclisme.cat/sites/default/files/styles/view_not_cia/public…
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trailfurnace 1/15/2020 4:06am
1/15/2020 4:06am
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Denim Destroyer on GT (informed from another media source) and Michal Prokop signs with Rock Machine. Denim Destroyer we could have picked, but didnt pick Prokop...
Denim Destroyer on GT (informed from another media source) and Michal Prokop signs with Rock Machine. Denim Destroyer we could have picked, but didnt pick Prokop being on the move.
never heard of rock machine
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othello 1/15/2020 7:54am
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XC team news (sort of)...

Simon Andreassen and Tom Pidcock teaming up for Cape Epic this year. Both are RedBull athletes and ride Specialized.
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Maxipedia 1/15/2020 8:25am
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Regarding Prokop: Rock Machine is Czech ”value” style brand, that offers a lot of bang (read: specs) for the buck. Basically generic Taiwanese frames with better parts than the big guys. Most Eastern European countries have such brands: Poland (Kross, Romet), Slovakia (CTM, Kelly's), Bulgaria (RAM, Cross, Drag, Pulse), Hungary (Magellan, Gepida), Czech Republic (Author, Rock Machine) etc.

MSC is a Spanish brand that the Lacondeguy brothers raced for. They have also run the European Maxxis program back in the day and Fabien Barel raced for them, but also David Vasquez (the current UCI technical delegate for DH) Mickael Pascal, Markolf Berchtold (Brazilian legend), Bernat Guardia (Spanish legend, ran the Intense DH program when they were on POC and then the fun crew before Gwin), Cyril Lagneau, Oscar Saiz (Spanish legend) and Marielle Saner (multiple Swiss national champ, one time European women's vice champ) and Emmeline Ragot (you might've heard of her). It's notorious how Barel was screwed over by the UCI at the 2002 Kaprun Worlds, because he did not make his start in the damn seeding run, but it was the organizer's fault with their silly slow chairlift that day and it's been said that before that certain official eyes were shut for bigger stars than Barel on such issues. Oh well...

Long story short; Andreu back on MSC would be an interesting story!
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valhallascott 1/15/2020 10:31am
1/15/2020 10:31am
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Not to mention everyone buying the SB5.5 then a year later selling to get SB150 then realising they only actually need to buy SB130. All those...
Not to mention everyone buying the SB5.5 then a year later selling to get SB150 then realising they only actually need to buy SB130. All those dentists ended up with a shed full of new bikes
groghunter wrote:
And then buying the SB165 because it's new and they have to have it. Of all the old school brands that traded highly on brand loyalty...
And then buying the SB165 because it's new and they have to have it. Of all the old school brands that traded highly on brand loyalty to justify their pricing and cachet, Yeti is about the only one who's managing to still use it as a sucessful business model.

People don't worship at the altar of Cannondale or Foes anymore.
Yeah but how long has it been since either of them made anything anyone wants to ride?
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groghunter 1/15/2020 10:50am
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valhallascott wrote:
Yeah but how long has it been since either of them made anything anyone wants to ride?
The point being, that was true when people were buying their bikes, too. Because their image sold a lot more bikes than the quality of their bikes.

I'll give Yeti the fact that their bikes don't entirely suck, but their pricing reflects their brand image, not their bikes being on some other level from the rest of the market.
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giantkeeper 1/15/2020 10:53am
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groghunter wrote:
The point being, that was true when people were buying their bikes, too. Because their image sold a lot more bikes than the quality of their...
The point being, that was true when people were buying their bikes, too. Because their image sold a lot more bikes than the quality of their bikes.

I'll give Yeti the fact that their bikes don't entirely suck, but their pricing reflects their brand image, not their bikes being on some other level from the rest of the market.
As a consumer and repeat Yeti customer I'd disagree.
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dubiousdesigns 1/15/2020 11:27am
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Well yeah, of course you do. You've gotta mentally justify spending massive wads of cash on a bicycle somehow. 🤣
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sharpy212 1/15/2020 12:16pm
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Never see a U Haul truck behind a Hearse... might as well spend it while you can.
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Primoz 1/15/2020 1:06pm
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TH SB150 was tested on a local site and had an MSRP of 7800 €. For that it came with Kashima suspension, 'X01' (GX cassette, but X01 crank), XT brakes and M1700 wheelset. I paid roughly 4700 € for my Al Bird Aeris AM9 where i have a complete X01 group, but with a GX crank (i prefer aluminium in high impact zones), XM1501 wheelsets, Code RSC brakes and RS SD RCT/Lyrik RC2 suspension. So all in all, i'd personally say a better or so-so drivetrain (due to a better cassette), better wheels, better brakes and a similar suspension setup. The weight difference is, at most, 1 kg (based on Yeti's advertised values for their lineup and me weighing my XL bike).

Will the Yeti ride 66 % better (price difference)? I highly doubt it. And it's a similar story with Santa Cruz, the X01 kit over here has an MSRP of 7800 € and is also on DT 350/ARC30 wheelsets (otherwise it's fairly similar to my build but with a performance elite 36 fork).

The prices for some bikes can't really be justified. I know there are premium brands in all walks of life, but at least in some cases you get the ability to spec more toys or something better (bigger engines with Audi/BMW/Mercedes compared to 'lesser' estates a-la Passat, Škodas and similar), you get better interior, actually better riding performance, etc. What do you get with the big boutique brands in the MTB world? A bit more plastic.
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SharpieMTB 1/15/2020 1:21pm
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This is team rumors, not complain about boutique brands. Start a new thread.
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Tanner_Carl 1/15/2020 2:25pm
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Back to rumors!

Jubal Davis to Alchemy?
Cody Kelly to Specialized?
Graves is confirmed to yeti at this point, right?
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paulinhorula 1/15/2020 3:02pm
1/15/2020 3:02pm
Here's a good one. Portuguese young ripper and rokkie world champion in 2017 and 2018, Nuno Reis, to race as a junior for commencal valnord!
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depeche4 1/15/2020 3:05pm
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Tanner_Carl wrote:
Back to rumors!

Jubal Davis to Alchemy?
Cody Kelly to Specialized?
Graves is confirmed to yeti at this point, right?
Where had Graves been confirmed?
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yetirich 1/15/2020 3:10pm
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paulinhorula wrote:
Here's a good one. Portuguese young ripper and rokkie world champion in 2017 and 2018, Nuno Reis, to race as a junior for commencal valnord!
Commencal Valnord no longer exists though...is this Commencal 100%?
He raced from Commencal last year
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6v2xpnnN8u/

They seem be using all of their instragram pages at this point so it's hard to say what they are doing.
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Tanner_Carl 1/15/2020 3:11pm
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depeche4 wrote:
Where had Graves been confirmed?
Just his IG stuff, DT front wheel, Fox fork, maxxis tire and XTR caliper.

Could just be bait to feul the rumors though...
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Pedal4life 1/15/2020 8:24pm
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Commencal Vallnord is no more and they have not announced yet what and/or who this will be and when we will know
julius.sevilla.3 1/15/2020 9:19pm
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paulinhorula wrote:
Here's a good one. Portuguese young ripper and rokkie world champion in 2017 and 2018, Nuno Reis, to race as a junior for commencal valnord!
yetirich wrote:
Commencal Valnord no longer exists though...is this Commencal 100%? He raced from Commencal last year https://www.instagram.com/p/B6v2xpnnN8u/ They seem be using all of their instragram pages at...
Commencal Valnord no longer exists though...is this Commencal 100%?
He raced from Commencal last year
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6v2xpnnN8u/

They seem be using all of their instragram pages at this point so it's hard to say what they are doing.
That's Thibault Deprela, he's won the Junior overall the last 2 years. He moved up to Elites this year.
paulinhorula 1/15/2020 9:36pm
1/15/2020 9:36pm Edited Date/Time 1/15/2020 9:39pm
julius.sevilla.3 wrote:
That's Thibault Deprela, he's won the Junior overall the last 2 years. He moved up to Elites this year.
No mate, I'm talking about the IXS Rokie World Championships that's held every year in Austria.
Nuno Reis won it in 2017 and 2018. Jakson Goldstone won the 2019 edition and Nuno Reis was second by less than a second.
Nuno Reis is now 17 years old and wil race is firat year junior in the world cup. When he was rokie world champion for the first time in 2017 he was only 14 years old.

Thibaut Daprela is moving on to elite this year wich opens up a place in the roster for a junior at commenval valnord.
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Pedal4life 1/15/2020 9:37pm
1/15/2020 9:37pm
I knew I read it here on Vital & I know I can screw up a detail or 2 but I knew I read it today


The team is proud to say we’re continuing with all the components and partners we were riding with in 2019. The team only says goodbye and a special thank you to Vallnord for his support over the last three years.
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julius.sevilla.3 1/15/2020 9:45pm
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julius.sevilla.3 wrote:
That's Thibault Deprela, he's won the Junior overall the last 2 years. He moved up to Elites this year.
paulinhorula wrote:
No mate, I'm talking about the IXS Rokie World Championships that's held every year in Austria. Nuno Reis won it in 2017 and 2018. Jakson Goldstone...
No mate, I'm talking about the IXS Rokie World Championships that's held every year in Austria.
Nuno Reis won it in 2017 and 2018. Jakson Goldstone won the 2019 edition and Nuno Reis was second by less than a second.
Nuno Reis is now 17 years old and wil race is firat year junior in the world cup. When he was rokie world champion for the first time in 2017 he was only 14 years old.

Thibaut Daprela is moving on to elite this year wich opens up a place in the roster for a junior at commenval valnord.
My bad! That case, they'll still be making impact on Juniors.
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Pedal4life 1/16/2020 11:58am
1/16/2020 11:58am
Not sure if Vallnord has left all forms of Commencal's racing efforts but for sure it looks like they've left the Enduro Team
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