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The newer dh bikes seem to be moving towards 460 chain stays. This idea that short stays leads to more agility doesn’t make much sense to me outside of bmx/dj riding. Being active on the bike and being able to push into it with weight (traction/grip) on both wheels does make sense to me.

They are actually going backwards, ebikes happened to be 450mm+ for the chainstay length for years ...but lets not derail the conversation too much...

Even the reviewers at Pinkbike noticed the front to rear balance was off. Normally I ride an XL or S5 in their range. That’s a 435 chain stay on a 1286 wheelbase for a e-bike that I’m wanting to climb all the things on. That 1.956 ratio is not going to be great at that without an xc race setup on the front end. I would want a 1235 wheelbase to be in the neighborhood of decent balance in that bike. And don’t get me started on the geo chart for the Levo 4 and how it’s so obviously wrong...

From another forum there could be quite a few things coming from Spesh on 24th both motorised and non motorised. I'm interested to see this light Levo. My preference would be a new front triangle with a fixed slim 600wh battery. I think it's interesting that the removable 600wh battery never really materialised after launch and I wonder if it suggests there was a pivot at some point with the standard Levo having a less than stellar reception.

Ran HR3's front and rear with cushcore all season last year on the east coat in pretty much every condition imaginable. Feel great in the deep mid summer dust at mountain creek and killington, and hooked up very well in VT loam and mud. In drier conditions they can wear pretty quickly especially with exposed jagged rocks, and might seen some rippage on the bottoms of the knobs. On hardback they can be a bit draggy but the knobs don't squirm as much as expected and are suitable for highspeeed jump trails. Biggest challenge was getting used to the sliding...

Remember , our sport is full of ideas that have stuck around due to a notion of how things are perceived. Kinda like some roadies who will tell up that a 23c tire at 105psi feels faster. Even though every pro team is running wider tires at a lower pressure.. The shorter rear feels more nimble because the FC was still short.. And, that was based on thinking that went back to the early MTB days where geometry was based on road bike knowledge.. I've wondered what the next big geometry debate/ change would be.. I'm thinking ive now found...

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Okay dokey then, not certain why I didn't think of never having my tires slip!

I don't know, I've found that some pairs of Skis handled a lot better when the binding was set back a bit from the recommended mounting point (a pair of Salomon QST 85s that I demoed for a few days come to mind), not many but some. Depends on the ski, the terrain, and who's using them. Same with bikes. I should check to see what the tip to tail ratio is on my current skis (icelantic Nomad 105s), see how close it is to the bikes fc/rc ratio.

some new levo r that is supposed to replace the levo sl

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