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Triple clamp, but only two crowns

It seems like they want this vehicle to be a moto by selling it in a powersport market. It gives a real mixed signal to both industries where the vehicle belongs and what rules/laws to abide by

A big problem I see with the exclusive distribution through powersports outlets is that a new customer will possibly miss out on some bike trail knowledge that a true bike shop might have. What is a powersports shop to say when a customer asks "Can I take this on any MTB trail?" Of course they are going to say yes, any answer of 'no' will dissuade a sale. A true MTB shop might give what I believe to be the right answer, which is 'Most of the time, some areas have different restrictions, and there are some normal climbing/descending etiquette...

It's ok, you can use engine braking to slow down.

Bicycle Retailer had a guest opinion piece (that link will take you to the entire article, not too long if you want the full read) Theo Jorna is the CEO of Hicle, an organization that puts together bicycle shows, including the E-Bike Challenge in Minnesota. He is very much in favor of e-bikes, in all their various forms. It was interesting to read yet another person call out the USA e-bikes as being over-powered and chide the "shred" image being used to sell bikes. Here are some excerpts from the article, quotes are in quotation marks and italics: With regard...

I did a little research... the KTM rated at 12hp with a peak rating of 24hp, weighs 245lbs, and isn't limited to 20mph.. A class 1 ebike, less than 1hp, weights around 50lbs, limited to 20mph, and must be pedalled to make it go... The interesting spec... The top of the line Santa Cruz Heckler actually has a MSRP that is higher than the KTM...

Ebikes are pedal assist, Im guessing to the tune of like 99%. All the pedalling is just telling it how fast to go, not actually doing much to propel the thing forward. Human effort is a joke compared to modern battery technology. the whole pedal assist thing seems like a fantasy to me, and Im not saying ebikers aren't getting a workout, Im just thinking that it's probably unnecessary. Just make cool electric trail motos please, I want to be able to go faster downhill than I do on my pedally bike.

If climbing has such priority - then build and have fun w/ a fully rigid MTB. If there's no competition to be had, one would have to be pragmatic about what limitations are had between the system of rider-and-bike. eBikes are a threat to the open outdoors. And, given enough wankers on whatever committee passes the buck, then the demographic will shift into Bike Lanes on Public Roads. Law 'markers' would have a feeding frenzy taking away freedoms of non-reliance upon fossil fuels. It's job security, just like these dumb motorscooters are.

Great article and reasoned debate. A motor is a motor is a motor. Legs are legs are legs. If I can't climb the hill, I'll: a) go to another trail or b) train harder. $.02

Apparently you are unaware of what a definition is.

Since in your own words "I want to go farther than I usually do in the short time I have to ride"; does it not make sense that you impacting the trails more by riding longer distances?

Of course that is why you will find a vast majority of the new breed of ebikers on trails have deregged them and are going fucking mentally fast!!!

Ever gone on a ride with someone on a deregged ebike? Definitely NOT the same speed as a regular Mtb.

So well said Sir.

Watch this video interview with Dave Turner and tell me there's a dividing line between ebikes and motor bikes: https://youtu.be/RuZuUn5Ci2k TL/DW: unless you're Nino you can't match the output of an electric motor. You'll put about 40W at the top of your lungs, while the lousiest electric assist motor gives you 250W on tap, and you can't tell me that ain't cheating. Wanna share the trails with me? OK, take off the battery and pedal like everyone else. On top of that, every single sale of an expensive mountain bike subsidizes the prices of the ebikes, bringing them down, up...

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia A moped (/ˈmoʊpɛd/ MOH-ped) is a type of small motorcycle with bicycle pedals, generally having a less stringent licensing requirement than full motorcycles or automobiles. Mopeds typically travel only a bit faster than bicycles on public roads, and possess both a motorcycle engine and pedals for propulsion.

An eMTB may not do as much damage per compared mile, but more per compared time. Say you have a 1hr long lunch to go for a ride. On your normal ride on a normal bike, you’d do one loop. Now on the eMTB would you be able to fit two laps in during that time? Are people going to ride based off of distance or off of how long they feel like being out regardless of the bike they are on? I’m personally for eMTB use on any motorized trail, and any non motorized trail that the local riding...

Shimano xtr all day long

42-52 wtf?!?!