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Blake_Motley Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

6/4/2026 4:14pm
The Pope reads Vitalmtb forums confirmed
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/28/2026 3:31pm
Too bad they couldn't find a buyer...
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Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/28/2026 3:28pm
Hello sir, you'll need to explain your take a bit better: given design and production timelines, the age of their prior platform, and when Rocky announced receivership, I am willing to put money down that this bike was finished the design stage and already in production at the time they went down. What were the new guys supposed to do...

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5/25/2026 7:25am
Not in NA Seth. Margin varies product to product, including within a model line of bikes. It's true that the bigger your order/booking, the more discount you get, but you might get 35% on an entry level hardtail and 18% on a top of the line ride.

Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/22/2026 10:50am
Jeff's right on the financing side. This is far from the initial foray into it. You were able to get Trek Card financing for like 15 years ago, notwithstanding that it's now been phased out for Klarna or whatever. Wide-scale rollout is another question.

jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/20/2026 3:59pm
Y’all are acting like bike financing (which is what leasing is, btw) is some brand-new idea. It isn’t. The basic tools have been around forever. In its most archaic form, its not all that different from opening a store card at your favorite big-box retailer. What bikes still lack is a real underwriting structure where the lender can tie the loan to the asset itself. When I finance a $100,000 truck, the bank holds the title until I pay it off. If I stop making payments, they can repossess the truck, sell it at auction, and recover at least some...
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TEAMROBOT Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/20/2026 12:48pm
I feel like you answered your own question when you said " a ton of people already do it for SXS, boats, and motorcycles." If the SXS, boat, and motorcycle people are making money by financing their overpriced toys, why would high-end bike companies not want to get in on the action with their overpriced toys? Yes, financing a high-end shiny ebike is completely unnecessary, unwise, financially imprudent, all of that. But so are cigarettes and gambling, and they're doing great!
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Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/20/2026 12:26pm
I agree with you that financing toys is generally stupid, especially for those that cannot afford them in the first place. What I will say is that the rise of consumer financing of everything is proliferating and bikes are already no exception. Klarna and FinanceIt and all sorts of 19% interest financing options already exist to walk out of a...

Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/20/2026 11:31am
I appreciate the reaction and I share the same gut reaction, but fundamentally, how is this substantially different than what is going on for those customers who keep their high end bikes for 1-2 seasons? To me the key difference is that there's a reallocation of risk from the back end of the deal to the front end via contract...

jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/20/2026 10:56am
Not to totally rip off Bicycle Retailer but their home page is full of interesting stories I missed right now... -Amazon to stop selling e-bikes that exceed 28mph in CA (no more Surrons via Amazon) -Giant reports April sales (3%) -GoPro sale or merger being considered (how'd I miss this!? Wild! Insta360+DJI ate their lunch) -Leatt continues to crush; sales up 27% y/y in Q1. -Merida and Ideal sales down (14%) and (22%) respectively y/y
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veefour Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/14/2026 10:40am
So my qustion is, can tin foil hats be used to thickn rotors?🤣
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Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/13/2026 4:42pm
No, a receiver is not "legally obliged to sell everything that isn't bolted down". They are obliged to act in a commercially reasonable manner consistent with their fiduciary duty to all interested parties. They are not obliged to extract every scrap of value from a bankruptcy, particularly where, in the case of what appears to be warranty frames in pieces...

Jotegr Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/13/2026 3:30pm
Looking at the auction makes me sad. As someone who worked at a shop where everything on the staff side was covered in stickers (aka all shops), seeing the lot with the fridge the employees decorated with stickers hit home. The auctioneer is a bit crazy. A box of loose leaf paper? A lot of what is obviously returned warranty...

jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/13/2026 3:27pm
Apologies for locking the thread. Totally by mistake (again).
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Friday Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

5/11/2026 12:44pm
Honestly this is kinda funny to hear. I feel a kinship with other countries who's domestic automakers wield immense political power, and use it to exclusively enrich themselves at the cost of the common citizen.
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ebikepartyshirt Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/11/2026 12:44pm
Can we get a separate thread for requesting separate threads so it doesn’t clog up this thread?
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Ambushell Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/11/2026 12:43pm
Gas Gas had the right idea with the moto-inspired replaceable plastics kits for their ECC ebikes. How many carbon frames become landfill waste from rock strikes or crashes where a sacrificial "fairing" could have taken the blow? If the industry wants to improve durability, this is the right place.
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seanfisseli Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/11/2026 10:25am
Would love to see this convo moved over to a thread called “thermoplastic debate/discussion” or similar. This is a dead end technology for now but I understand that a lot of you like talking about it.
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peecee Liked a reply to forum topic 2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

5/11/2026 10:15am
I thought downhill was governed by what makes the sport look cool and not by what makes it faster, you can’t tell me that banning a skin suit due to the majority of male athletes being self conscious in the search of speed is any different to putting a massive stupid looking wheel on the front of a bike to make it look like a Penny farthing ? If 32” wheels are allowed then so should ski suits be allowed if it’s helping gain speed in a sport that can come down to thousands of a second missing qualifying! On...
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