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Thanks Folk of Vita, Much appreciated, Troll you again soon

Hateful Old Hiker's Association Logging trails: placing logs and other debris across trails to force MTBers off their bikes (sometimes by crashing)

Out: Bro Deals and Employee Purchase (Perks) Bike Companies: "Hey we're really busy and are selling loads of stuff (all at full RRP), so because of that were going to stop our employee perks as a thank you to all of our staff or all of their stellar work this year. They still get minimum wage, so they'll be alright" What a time to be working in a bike shop. You'd think it would be different and that they'd be trying their best to show how much they value their workers.

Whats in - turning your canti/v brake retro 90's hardtail bike into a gravel grinder.

True but at least it's some numbers for the shuttling. Mike does a good job of explaining his system.

What you are describing to me sounds similar to what I get at a ski resort... I don't care that my bike and I get to the top in a vehicle or on a chair; just that I get there. I'd likely pay a similar amount for a day pass, as long as the trails are fun and there isn't any glaring lack of service (if I have to wait longer than 10-15 minutes to be moving back up the mountain, for instance.) I think I paid $52 at Summit this summer for one day, not in advance. If you...

So just for the clarity of the topic. Shuttle services providing access to public trails and commercial bike parks using uplift vehicles instead of chairlifts are two very different things. Please continue...

Season pass in 200 dollar range. Maybe a little more if there were significant perks for pass holder.

$40-50 US per day Annual $300 (7 month is the same to me since thats our typical riding season in Colorado). But if its more than 2 hours from me I am unlikely to get a pass. Up to 5 hours for a trip 1 time per year (2-3 ride days per trip), 3 times if within 2 hours, probably 5 times if 30m-1hour, 15x if <15 minutes. Just estimations, depends how sick it is.

The problem is it costs more to run shuttles, driver, gas, vehices,... At least thats how it works in europe, Finale Ligure is world famous for shuttles and it cost 50€ per day, Pila bike park situated few 100km to the north costs 25€ per day... Shuttles are simply not cost effective...

Day Pass $30-$40 Summer Pass $200-$300 7 Month $400-$500 Drive time 1.5-2hrs Since you are in Eugene i'm guessing this is in reference to the announcement of the Bikepark announcement in PC. I'm in Portland area so I would drive from there no question. My prices may seem on the high end but considering Coast Gravity quality and a shuttle plus being a new endeavor I would gladly support it. Considering I paid $350 for a fusion pass at Timberline and Skibowl for less than 3 months riding and a 1.5hr drive each way.

Liability. Resorts be sitting in a ton of a cash and are looking to keep guests spending money in their restaurants or grabbing rooms. The tiny mountain near me stopped doing mtb 100 percent because it was unsustainable without a local organizing several races to beat the overhead. The mountain never made a dime even with him doing so as it doesn’t have any amenities. Luckily we still have the trails and we just pedal up the service road.

RIP spring. Never got to ride the lift there but I’m not too upset because it looks super sketch. Springs problem was also that they didn’t have any beginner trails. All of theirs were high risk endeavors where you were more likely to get hurt falling off a feature or crashing into a tree than actually falling off your bike. I’d totally pitch in $10 or $15 and split up the gas cost between the group for the day if they did shuttles. Sort of how Bailey in NC does it. My biggest gripe with bike parks is that small...

I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could be way smaller. As long as the shuttle service can handle the load I figure I'd pay about half the price of a lift ticket at a ski mountain. Some family friends from long ago lived on a plot of land on Brown's Island, Washington that was a strip of land from the top of the island down to their own oyster bed. With a well engineered shuttle road it would be amazing.

Here's what they are paying in the 'ham https://www.intrinsicflow.com/chuckanut-shuttles