How much would you pay for a day pass at a shuttle-serviced bike park?

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I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are for US bike park prices.

How much would you feel comfortable paying for a day pass (10-5) at a shuttle-serviced park in the US? Let's say its 800 ft of elevation loss, 10 trails, and the quality is up there with Coast Gravity, plus solid DH bike oriented tracks similar to what you'd find at an NW Cup. If you were hustling and could get up to 15 or so runs per day.

How much for a summer season pass?

How much for a 7 month pass (if it's somewhere weather allows)?

Also, how far would you drive?

Just collecting some data, thanks everyone!
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12/10/2020 3:31pm Edited Date/Time 12/10/2020 6:04pm
I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could be way smaller. As long as the shuttle service can handle the load I figure I'd pay about half the price of a lift ticket at a ski mountain. Some family friends from long ago lived on a plot of land on Brown's Island, Washington that was a strip of land from the top of the island down to their own oyster bed. With a well engineered shuttle road it would be amazing.
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12/10/2020 4:03pm
Big Bird wrote:
I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could...
I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could be way smaller. As long as the shuttle service can handle the load I figure I'd pay about half the price of a lift ticket at a ski mountain. Some family friends from long ago lived on a plot of land on Brown's Island, Washington that was a strip of land from the top of the island down to their own oyster bed. With a well engineered shuttle road it would be amazing.
SVR Bikepark in Wallace, ID is going to open at some point. Hopefully that won't be the only one in the PNW in a couple of years Wink
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12/10/2020 6:11pm
So just for the clarity of the topic. Shuttle services providing access to public trails and commercial bike parks using uplift vehicles instead of chairlifts are two very different things. Please continue...
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12/10/2020 9:52pm
Season pass in 200 dollar range. Maybe a little more if there were significant perks for pass holder.

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12/10/2020 9:57pm
Big Bird wrote:
I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could...
I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could be way smaller. As long as the shuttle service can handle the load I figure I'd pay about half the price of a lift ticket at a ski mountain. Some family friends from long ago lived on a plot of land on Brown's Island, Washington that was a strip of land from the top of the island down to their own oyster bed. With a well engineered shuttle road it would be amazing.
Liability. Resorts be sitting in a ton of a cash and are looking to keep guests spending money in their restaurants or grabbing rooms.

The tiny mountain near me stopped doing mtb 100 percent because it was unsustainable without a local organizing several races to beat the overhead. The mountain never made a dime even with him doing so as it doesn’t have any amenities. Luckily we still have the trails and we just pedal up the service road.
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12/10/2020 11:06pm
Liability. Resorts be sitting in a ton of a cash and are looking to keep guests spending money in their restaurants or grabbing rooms. The tiny...
Liability. Resorts be sitting in a ton of a cash and are looking to keep guests spending money in their restaurants or grabbing rooms.

The tiny mountain near me stopped doing mtb 100 percent because it was unsustainable without a local organizing several races to beat the overhead. The mountain never made a dime even with him doing so as it doesn’t have any amenities. Luckily we still have the trails and we just pedal up the service road.
RIP spring. Never got to ride the lift there but I’m not too upset because it looks super sketch. Springs problem was also that they didn’t have any beginner trails. All of theirs were high risk endeavors where you were more likely to get hurt falling off a feature or crashing into a tree than actually falling off your bike. I’d totally pitch in $10 or $15 and split up the gas cost between the group for the day if they did shuttles. Sort of how Bailey in NC does it.
My biggest gripe with bike parks is that small, independent parks who focus on a certain riding style or terrain are unbelievably over priced. Like I would totally spend $50 at a park if it had a good variety of trails that took a while to get from the top down. But some places are a little pricey for only having 7-10 real working trails that aren’t maintained well or at all.
As far as non lift access parks, $20 max per day. Encourages more people to ride, covers operating fees, and can be lowered in the future once the park is established. Extra profit can be made from rentals, shop services and concessions. I know those all add up so $20 a day might be a little low but season passes shouldn’t be over $200.

Kind of off topic but I just don’t get paying the same prices for race registration at a lift access park and a regular public preserve or trail system. $85 for me to pedal my ass off all day and still have to climb 3k feet?!?!?
Ok. End rant.
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12/11/2020 8:07am
Liability. Resorts be sitting in a ton of a cash and are looking to keep guests spending money in their restaurants or grabbing rooms. The tiny...
Liability. Resorts be sitting in a ton of a cash and are looking to keep guests spending money in their restaurants or grabbing rooms.

The tiny mountain near me stopped doing mtb 100 percent because it was unsustainable without a local organizing several races to beat the overhead. The mountain never made a dime even with him doing so as it doesn’t have any amenities. Luckily we still have the trails and we just pedal up the service road.
RIP spring. Never got to ride the lift there but I’m not too upset because it looks super sketch. Springs problem was also that they didn’t...
RIP spring. Never got to ride the lift there but I’m not too upset because it looks super sketch. Springs problem was also that they didn’t have any beginner trails. All of theirs were high risk endeavors where you were more likely to get hurt falling off a feature or crashing into a tree than actually falling off your bike. I’d totally pitch in $10 or $15 and split up the gas cost between the group for the day if they did shuttles. Sort of how Bailey in NC does it.
My biggest gripe with bike parks is that small, independent parks who focus on a certain riding style or terrain are unbelievably over priced. Like I would totally spend $50 at a park if it had a good variety of trails that took a while to get from the top down. But some places are a little pricey for only having 7-10 real working trails that aren’t maintained well or at all.
As far as non lift access parks, $20 max per day. Encourages more people to ride, covers operating fees, and can be lowered in the future once the park is established. Extra profit can be made from rentals, shop services and concessions. I know those all add up so $20 a day might be a little low but season passes shouldn’t be over $200.

Kind of off topic but I just don’t get paying the same prices for race registration at a lift access park and a regular public preserve or trail system. $85 for me to pedal my ass off all day and still have to climb 3k feet?!?!?
Ok. End rant.
Spring has some quality xc if dh isn’t your thing. Plus there is a ton of good easy trails in area and nothing remotely tech or with wood work other than spring. Ive ridden every trail but largest free ride line on a rigid bike it really isn’t that sketchy. the issue has always been the owners can’t make money to beat overhead and a couple green trails wouldn’t change that. A frame/wally’s leg and it’s variants are arguably the best progression trail I’ve ever ridden so there is definitely stuff for riders of all levels.

Hope you make it up here sometime I think you will really dig it.
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12/11/2020 8:48am
Shuttle service?? And you guys complain about EMTB's?? This place is hilarious.

Just buy a bike with a motor and be done with it.
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12/11/2020 8:53am
jackhill wrote:
I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are for US bike park prices. How much would you feel comfortable paying for a day pass (10-5) at a shuttle-serviced...
I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are for US bike park prices.

How much would you feel comfortable paying for a day pass (10-5) at a shuttle-serviced park in the US? Let's say its 800 ft of elevation loss, 10 trails, and the quality is up there with Coast Gravity, plus solid DH bike oriented tracks similar to what you'd find at an NW Cup. If you were hustling and could get up to 15 or so runs per day.

How much for a summer season pass?

How much for a 7 month pass (if it's somewhere weather allows)?

Also, how far would you drive?

Just collecting some data, thanks everyone!
Day Pass $30-$40
Summer Pass $200-$300
7 Month $400-$500
Drive time 1.5-2hrs

Since you are in Eugene i'm guessing this is in reference to the announcement of the Bikepark announcement in PC. I'm in Portland area so I would drive from there no question. My prices may seem on the high end but considering Coast Gravity quality and a shuttle plus being a new endeavor I would gladly support it. Considering I paid $350 for a fusion pass at Timberline and Skibowl for less than 3 months riding and a 1.5hr drive each way.
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12/11/2020 9:30am
Big Bird wrote:
I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could...
I've always wondered why no one does uplifts in the US? Instead of having to buy or lease from a ski mountain, an uplift park could be way smaller. As long as the shuttle service can handle the load I figure I'd pay about half the price of a lift ticket at a ski mountain. Some family friends from long ago lived on a plot of land on Brown's Island, Washington that was a strip of land from the top of the island down to their own oyster bed. With a well engineered shuttle road it would be amazing.
The problem is it costs more to run shuttles, driver, gas, vehices,... At least thats how it works in europe, Finale Ligure is world famous for shuttles and it cost 50€ per day, Pila bike park situated few 100km to the north costs 25€ per day... Shuttles are simply not cost effective...
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12/11/2020 10:15am
$40-50 US per day
Annual $300 (7 month is the same to me since thats our typical riding season in Colorado). But if its more than 2 hours from me I am unlikely to get a pass.
Up to 5 hours for a trip 1 time per year (2-3 ride days per trip), 3 times if within 2 hours, probably 5 times if 30m-1hour, 15x if <15 minutes. Just estimations, depends how sick it is.
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12/11/2020 11:24am
jackhill wrote:
I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are for US bike park prices. How much would you feel comfortable paying for a day pass (10-5) at a shuttle-serviced...
I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are for US bike park prices.

How much would you feel comfortable paying for a day pass (10-5) at a shuttle-serviced park in the US? Let's say its 800 ft of elevation loss, 10 trails, and the quality is up there with Coast Gravity, plus solid DH bike oriented tracks similar to what you'd find at an NW Cup. If you were hustling and could get up to 15 or so runs per day.

How much for a summer season pass?

How much for a 7 month pass (if it's somewhere weather allows)?

Also, how far would you drive?

Just collecting some data, thanks everyone!
Day Pass $30-$40 Summer Pass $200-$300 7 Month $400-$500 Drive time 1.5-2hrs Since you are in Eugene i'm guessing this is in reference to the announcement...
Day Pass $30-$40
Summer Pass $200-$300
7 Month $400-$500
Drive time 1.5-2hrs

Since you are in Eugene i'm guessing this is in reference to the announcement of the Bikepark announcement in PC. I'm in Portland area so I would drive from there no question. My prices may seem on the high end but considering Coast Gravity quality and a shuttle plus being a new endeavor I would gladly support it. Considering I paid $350 for a fusion pass at Timberline and Skibowl for less than 3 months riding and a 1.5hr drive each way.
Thank you for the detailed reply. The pacific city stuff is going to be public- although I could see a shuttle service operating in the trail system. If there is a bike park going in it's news to me. Not exactly what I'm examining but sort of close. I'm thinking private land, private operators, with the only access to the trail system being a shuttle pass.
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12/11/2020 11:26am
Big Bird wrote:
So just for the clarity of the topic. Shuttle services providing access to public trails and commercial bike parks using uplift vehicles instead of chairlifts are...
So just for the clarity of the topic. Shuttle services providing access to public trails and commercial bike parks using uplift vehicles instead of chairlifts are two very different things. Please continue...
Exactly. I'm talking about private land, where the only access to the trails is through the private shuttle service. Private shuttles on public trails are different and much more abundant in the US.
12/11/2020 1:42pm
jackhill wrote:
I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are for US bike park prices. How much would you feel comfortable paying for a day pass (10-5) at a shuttle-serviced...
I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are for US bike park prices.

How much would you feel comfortable paying for a day pass (10-5) at a shuttle-serviced park in the US? Let's say its 800 ft of elevation loss, 10 trails, and the quality is up there with Coast Gravity, plus solid DH bike oriented tracks similar to what you'd find at an NW Cup. If you were hustling and could get up to 15 or so runs per day.

How much for a summer season pass?

How much for a 7 month pass (if it's somewhere weather allows)?

Also, how far would you drive?

Just collecting some data, thanks everyone!
Day Pass $30-$40 Summer Pass $200-$300 7 Month $400-$500 Drive time 1.5-2hrs Since you are in Eugene i'm guessing this is in reference to the announcement...
Day Pass $30-$40
Summer Pass $200-$300
7 Month $400-$500
Drive time 1.5-2hrs

Since you are in Eugene i'm guessing this is in reference to the announcement of the Bikepark announcement in PC. I'm in Portland area so I would drive from there no question. My prices may seem on the high end but considering Coast Gravity quality and a shuttle plus being a new endeavor I would gladly support it. Considering I paid $350 for a fusion pass at Timberline and Skibowl for less than 3 months riding and a 1.5hr drive each way.
jackhill wrote:
Thank you for the detailed reply. The pacific city stuff is going to be public- although I could see a shuttle service operating in the trail...
Thank you for the detailed reply. The pacific city stuff is going to be public- although I could see a shuttle service operating in the trail system. If there is a bike park going in it's news to me. Not exactly what I'm examining but sort of close. I'm thinking private land, private operators, with the only access to the trail system being a shuttle pass.
Gotcha. I was a little confused on the details of the Pacific City trails. I would still pay those prices for the private park you are describing though.
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12/11/2020 1:55pm
What you are describing to me sounds similar to what I get at a ski resort... I don't care that my bike and I get to the top in a vehicle or on a chair; just that I get there. I'd likely pay a similar amount for a day pass, as long as the trails are fun and there isn't any glaring lack of service (if I have to wait longer than 10-15 minutes to be moving back up the mountain, for instance.)
I think I paid $52 at Summit this summer for one day, not in advance. If you could do it for $40-$50, price wouldn't be the thing keeping me away.
I would be enticed to ride at your park more often and instead of a mountain ski resort if it were significantly less. (Around $25-$30, for example.)
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12/11/2020 4:18pm
Big Bird wrote:
So just for the clarity of the topic. Shuttle services providing access to public trails and commercial bike parks using uplift vehicles instead of chairlifts are...
So just for the clarity of the topic. Shuttle services providing access to public trails and commercial bike parks using uplift vehicles instead of chairlifts are two very different things. Please continue...
True but at least it's some numbers for the shuttling. Mike does a good job of explaining his system.
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