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I'm curious to hear more about the STFU chain damper and pedal feedback as I only ever see that in passing comments like yours. What bike did you have it on and notice that? I am also curious if an Onyx hub would reduce pedal feedback, even though it is instant engagement, because it is a soft engagement. Rather than...

You are listing sale prices of those other bikes. That is not what those frames are worth to the builders. But it does potentially reflect what the frames are worth to customers.