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I am of the opinion we hate that privateers are so overlooked. Usually privateers will be competing in their localized races. As local slope riders would try to do as well. Just for logistics. And it's why Wyn Masters sets up a privateer fund (I believe through crowdfunding? not sure if GT is a big donor). I'm a bit confused, is our goal to continually find examples of why we shouldn't support riders? And it's also totally okay to admit you arent into slope discipline. I just waver at the 'so that means they arent worth it' when you're literally...

Which is exactly why no other way of making money should be brought up in this thread ideally. Good point.

I keep trying to avoid this thread for what it's become but somehow the takes are getting even worse. First of all, in the way you are arguing, yes the tricks specifically don't matter that much. In the show aspect. But it's still a competition with scoring and win bonuses for sponsors. So that's why it's relevant. If they want to turn it into a non-scored exhibition that's totally fine and I think the exact same kind of people would go for the exact same type of riding. People seemed plenty happy to watch the girls ride (at a level...

I think some of the people here are a bit deluded about the level of skill of the top slopestyle riders. If you take the best guys, so that'll probably be these five: Emil Johansson, Dawid Godziek, Tim Bringer, Erik Fedko and Nicholi Rogatkin. Then choose their likely best trick: Emil Johansson with an opposite 360 windshield wiper. Spinning a 360 with his back foot leading the spin instead of normally with the front foot leading which is easier as that's which direction his hips would be facing and doing a tailwhip one way and then another tailwhip back in...

I don't think YOU have randomly capitalized ENOUGH words to BE taken SERIOUSLY by BOOMERS who don't REALLY understand what is going ON PERIOD FULL STOP end OF story!!>?%%%

So you don't want any new riders? So you want slopestyle to die for some reason? How do you think ANY of these guys GET to the part where they have income? How are you speaking with such authority on something you haven't done and seemingly don't follow (and apparently don't like as you keep referring to it as like a 'stunt circus')? Do you think slopestyle or freeride or BMX or skateboarding is brand new? It's always been a challenging independent pursuit and almost EVERY athlete starts as a borderline van dwelling ramen eater. The only alternative is TYPICALLY...

errr I'm sorry but, if possible, the slope guys n gals should ABSOLUTELY have the most flexible schedule and be given the safest conditions. if the DH is rainy or windy, they can go slower to be safer and even skip jumps and basically the cost is TIME. i mean thsoe riders kinda HAVE to go in bad conditions, they know what to do. you can NOT run big air freestyle events in wind and sometimes rain given soil condition. and these are the guys who do it on (checks notes) 26 inch hardtails or 100mm bikes on jumps where...

one thing that really stuck out to me is that they (crankworx) already provide catering (meals) to event staff, yet they exclude the athletes from it. if feeding an extra 2 dozen or so people (athletes/competitors) is that cost prohibitive then why feed anyone in the first place? it also sounds like these have been on-going discussions for at least a year, if not longer. this wasn't a bunch spoiled riders just showing up and having a tantrum like some people seem to assume, this was the end result of a long term effort to bring about change and improvement...

Man I feel like people aren't reading the whole thread or can't stay on topic with the same points. We can't get away from this idea it's about guys getting paid tons of money (like its about top earners). Unless you're privy to information that's not yet been revealed. This ENTIRE thing is about the wild cards and lowest guys on the totem pole earning some peanuts so that they can either BREAK EVEN or make a single peanut off the event. Let's not forget the top riders just gave up winnings earnings and likely sponsor win bonus (if not...

Apparently doing something altruistically is an alien concept to you. The top riders have the most to lose from this.The big sponsors are bound to be the most pissed off at them. They almost certainly get a travel budget from their sponsors on top of their salary that is proportional to they cost they incur attending events.The appearance fee if implemented will just come out of their travel allowance. Emil just lost 7.5k for standing with his friends. The likes of Emil and Fedko have almost nothing to gain from this and without them there boycot would not have even...

Except the Emil’s of the sport are the ones sitting out to try to get an appearance fee for the rest of the field. The riders have said the whole reason they are asking for one is to ensure the best of the rest can afford to go to the show. considering the majority of the field has to travel across continents for 3/4 events or a minimum of 2/4 events it’s not unreasonable to want food and some travel money to participate. Slopestyle contracts are often structured very different to racing contracts where the rider is paid a salary/frame/parts...

crankworx is 20 years old now. that first year it was basically just slopestyle (and a DH race, but that was still a side event to slopestyle). if it weren't for slopestyle, crankworx as we know it today wouldn't exist.

here's a press conference from a couple days ago with some specifics. just seeing this morning b/c the youtube algorithm...could be old news.

CW should just be grateful they get to do something they like. It's not the riders fault CW can't get enough sponsors because they are'nt good enough at their jobs. They could oraganise parties as a side gig for extra cash and if they can't do that they should do something else and give the chance to other up and coming events who will do it for less money. It is just supply and demand. If the market does'nt think CW is worth the money then they deserve to fail. If they don't like the paying the riders they can...

I support the riders 100%.

Just wanted to throw this out there. But for X-games, we all got paid for showing up. For our rights to be on the broadcast. Got a cheque from the Walt Disney Corp. It was 1000 USD. This was in 2013. Every athlete invited, including alternates got paid for appearing. that was blanket across all the sports. Crazy to think back and say I an X games athlete

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the people who already didn't like unions mostly sided with the Crankworx organizers and the people who already liked unions agreed with the athletes. Call it a hunch.