Just some nice details to look at. The built in fork bumper is pretty trick.
Just some nice details to look at. The built in fork bumper is pretty trick.
BTW, just above the cloth on the downtube you can see some rivets which are used to secure the tubes to the lugs on this frame. It's clear there's a cradle under the cloth.
Not sure this is the right place for for this but on the most recent Downtime podcast Andreas Kolb mentioned that Atherton racing is now on Hayes Dominion brakes (they were on Trickstuff).
(He didn't provide any details as to why they switched but I wonder if it's connected to the still-unfinished ERP migration that's been in-process at Trickstuff for over 18 months now or some other reason?).
Possibly related to trickstuff being acquired. Or Hayes could actually pay the team a bit, I'd guess trickstuff was too small for that, and was only giving them brakes. But idk?
Don’t know if this has been talked about here but this is the first time I saw an AXS Mech with a cable going to the Bosch Battery instead of its own one.
Does someone have any experience with that? I wonder on which port it is connected on the motor?
Don’t know if this has been talked about here but this is the first time I saw an AXS Mech with a cable going to the...
Don’t know if this has been talked about here but this is the first time I saw an AXS Mech with a cable going to the Bosch Battery instead of its own one.
Does someone have any experience with that? I wonder on which port it is connected on the motor?
Yeah that is a standard OEM option from Sram. Been around for a while now but not sure if you can purchase it aftermarket.
I’m sure I’ll be shot down for this but this is the least exciting new downhill bike on the circuit. I’m sure it works good but mehhh.
Additionally - and I’ll really get roasted for this one - I thought the syndicate road trip videos were lame. It all seemed a bit forced and try-hard. Compare it to Amaury’s movie which felt honest, raw and imo just pretty awesome.
I’m sure I’ll be shot down for this but this is the least exciting new downhill bike on the circuit. I’m sure it works good but...
I’m sure I’ll be shot down for this but this is the least exciting new downhill bike on the circuit. I’m sure it works good but mehhh.
Additionally - and I’ll really get roasted for this one - I thought the syndicate road trip videos were lame. It all seemed a bit forced and try-hard. Compare it to Amaury’s movie which felt honest, raw and imo just pretty awesome.
Edit: we reached 400 🙌
I donno, sounds like they made a lot of great advancements in the new V10. If you’re saying least exciting because the look didn’t change, sure.. But if the frame compliance and leverage rates have been adjusted, it could be a weapon of a bike!
I’m sure I’ll be shot down for this but this is the least exciting new downhill bike on the circuit. I’m sure it works good but...
I’m sure I’ll be shot down for this but this is the least exciting new downhill bike on the circuit. I’m sure it works good but mehhh.
Additionally - and I’ll really get roasted for this one - I thought the syndicate road trip videos were lame. It all seemed a bit forced and try-hard. Compare it to Amaury’s movie which felt honest, raw and imo just pretty awesome.
I donno, sounds like they made a lot of great advancements in the new V10. If you’re saying least exciting because the look didn’t change, sure...
I donno, sounds like they made a lot of great advancements in the new V10. If you’re saying least exciting because the look didn’t change, sure.. But if the frame compliance and leverage rates have been adjusted, it could be a weapon of a bike!
What would a regular weekend warrior understand from adjusted frame compliance and leverage rates? He/she’d still have an amazing time on a previous gen V10! The new one seems just like a facelift of the old one, if you don’t look at the details from close range, you might think it’s the old one. Check what Spech are doing in the last 7-8 years - each next Demo is nothing like the previous one, and there are newer and newer design details, not to mention frame compliance and leverage ratios!
Good point, that weld kind of looks like.the underside of a gym bleacher in an 80's teen movie.
Come on people:-D someone is trying to built a gearbox (steel?!) bike and we are complaining.
Give this person some kudos. If you read this, steel-gearbox-highpivot-welder, keep up the work!
Looks like similar frame technology as the Athertons bikes and new Demo, with the carbon tubes and metal lugs!
Cocalis talked pretty openly about it on the PB podcast a while back, tubes and lugs (as you said) and the frames are made in-house in AZ. He said they can make one in ~3 weeks.
Looks like it’s maybe been retrofitted to a Repeater too?
I’ve heard through the grape vine Transition is scrambling to find a motor supplier moving forward due to all the Fauza system failures Pivot is experiencing. I wonder if Sram is stepping in to help…
The Relay is on the Fazua program. The Repeater is using Shimano mid drives.
Are there any reliable numbers regarding failures of drive units? It kinda seems everything is failing out there. Bird guys are fairly open in the owners group about a separate e-bike brand being started, but it's on pause as they were testing Shimano units and had a 75 % failure rate in the test fleet alone. They said they can't run a business with failure rates that high. With other brands they had problems getting volumes low enough for their needs (Bosch and co apparently require big orders), but everywhere there seems people have issues. Obviously some people with zero issues, some people with constant issues.
To be honest it's kinda funny that there are so many issues with these things with the number of players coming from the automotive side and reusing automotive components (motor components from electric water pumps, electric power steering units and similar) that should be validated to much higher requirements...
BTW, just above the cloth on the downtube you can see some rivets which are used to secure the tubes to the lugs on this frame. It's clear there's a cradle under the cloth.
Can see an outline when zoomed in. Still hard to make out suspension
Not sure this is the right place for for this but on the most recent Downtime podcast Andreas Kolb mentioned that Atherton racing is now on Hayes Dominion brakes (they were on Trickstuff).
(He didn't provide any details as to why they switched but I wonder if it's connected to the still-unfinished ERP migration that's been in-process at Trickstuff for over 18 months now or some other reason?).
Hayes are probably just paying more and are a great brake too.
They seem to be appearing on a lot more pro’s bikes recently (Fairclough for one)
Possibly related to trickstuff being acquired. Or Hayes could actually pay the team a bit, I'd guess trickstuff was too small for that, and was only giving them brakes. But idk?
What is he running for drivetrain?
Agree on the brake quality, I have them on 3 bikes
His latest Gambler had XO on it
Don’t know if this has been talked about here but this is the first time I saw an AXS Mech with a cable going to the Bosch Battery instead of its own one.
Does someone have any experience with that? I wonder on which port it is connected on the motor?
I think a few Scott ebikes had this a year or so ago already. The first one with the internal shock if I'm not mistaken?
Yeah that is a standard OEM option from Sram. Been around for a while now but not sure if you can purchase it aftermarket.
I’m sure I’ll be shot down for this but this is the least exciting new downhill bike on the circuit. I’m sure it works good but mehhh.
Additionally - and I’ll really get roasted for this one - I thought the syndicate road trip videos were lame. It all seemed a bit forced and try-hard. Compare it to Amaury’s movie which felt honest, raw and imo just pretty awesome.
Edit: we reached 400 🙌
I donno, sounds like they made a lot of great advancements in the new V10. If you’re saying least exciting because the look didn’t change, sure.. But if the frame compliance and leverage rates have been adjusted, it could be a weapon of a bike!
What would a regular weekend warrior understand from adjusted frame compliance and leverage rates? He/she’d still have an amazing time on a previous gen V10! The new one seems just like a facelift of the old one, if you don’t look at the details from close range, you might think it’s the old one. Check what Spech are doing in the last 7-8 years - each next Demo is nothing like the previous one, and there are newer and newer design details, not to mention frame compliance and leverage ratios!
Come on people:-D someone is trying to built a gearbox (steel?!) bike and we are complaining.
Give this person some kudos. If you read this, steel-gearbox-highpivot-welder, keep up the work!
From Bernhards insta story:
Looks like similar frame technology as the Athertons bikes and new Demo, with the carbon tubes and metal lugs!
Cocalis talked pretty openly about it on the PB podcast a while back, tubes and lugs (as you said) and the frames are made in-house in AZ. He said they can make one in ~3 weeks.
Giants Cadex bikes would like to have a word with your comment,
Road bikes don’t count! 😉
New pivot also looks mullet?
Is it just me or does that bike look absolutely killer, cnc bling.
Would love for brands to sell these.(athertons are cool but not that cool looking)
Nice one.
Raleigh and John Tomac would also like a word...
🤦♂️😆
Couldn't help but notice the AXS logo on the display in the first two photos 🧐
Guessing this is the new SRAM motor unit we've been hearing about, hiding in a Nukeproof proto
Looks like it, wondering if the axs logo means its a wireless display or if a remote on the bar can pair to it wirelessly.
Looks like it’s maybe been retrofitted to a Repeater too?
I’ve heard through the grape vine Transition is scrambling to find a motor supplier moving forward due to all the Fauza system failures Pivot is experiencing. I wonder if Sram is stepping in to help…
The Relay is on the Fazua program. The Repeater is using Shimano mid drives.
Are there any reliable numbers regarding failures of drive units? It kinda seems everything is failing out there. Bird guys are fairly open in the owners group about a separate e-bike brand being started, but it's on pause as they were testing Shimano units and had a 75 % failure rate in the test fleet alone. They said they can't run a business with failure rates that high. With other brands they had problems getting volumes low enough for their needs (Bosch and co apparently require big orders), but everywhere there seems people have issues. Obviously some people with zero issues, some people with constant issues.
To be honest it's kinda funny that there are so many issues with these things with the number of players coming from the automotive side and reusing automotive components (motor components from electric water pumps, electric power steering units and similar) that should be validated to much higher requirements...