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I've heard they have a light weight e-mtb coming out, think Kenevo SL.
New Saint crank on the syndicate Insta?
Looks to me like an XTR style bolt and preload collar nds crank.
If that's Laurie's bike, he's been known to run Hope cranks with Saint stickers.
Sorry, I should have been more clear with my thoughts here. My thought was that maybe the 'Chainsaw' prototype is a) just a new Spartan since that was the 'old' pre-release name, or b) it could be that they're using 'Chainsaw' as a general name for (long-travel) prototypes, or c) it is in fact a new 'park' bike like a Canyon Torque that could be a DH bike and enduro bike for some.
Hey tech Gurus - wondering if someone can clarify something for me; Is the new sram transmission Crank + chainring compatible with the original eagle technology cassette and derailleur if a new T type chain is used?
Cracked and iscg mount so looking for alternative bash guard options
Nope - the new T Type Chain is not compatible with the old eagle universe. There might be a way around with new SRAM Cranks and a chainring from a 3 party vendor?
The flat top road stuff has a different diameter of the rolers. I think it's a case of somebody has to try it out. But there was a cross compatibility mentioned in the release article. Might be in fact that the front chainrings work with the older drivetrains.
EDIT: it's the old shifter pods that are compatible with the new derailleurs...
He wants the new chainring for the integrated bash guard.
The new chainring is compatible with the old chain, It even says ob it: T-Type or Eagle chain only. Whereas the other components say: T-Type only
Wolftooth does a direct mount bash ring that has a spider for their chainring. CAMO is term. You have to buy bash guard and chainring. Looks quality, but I haven't used it or any wolftooth chainrings so I can't say for sure. Lots cheaper than a whole new drivetrain.
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/collections/camo/products/camo-bash…
I did see the cross compatibility thing on the vital post and it stated it was compatible in the way i described it - it specifically mentioned needing to use the T type chain to make it work though, i found it to be a bit of an odd scenario that the flat top chain would work with the old derailleur - hence the question, it appears though that someone else just said the chain ring is compatible with eagle chains, which i had previously read was not compatible
Ugh this would have been perfect, sadly I’ve opted for hope cranks on this bike so this option doesn’t help me either.
Those lugs look welded to me? I wonder how cnc+welded lugs compare price wise to the athertons printed ones.
Side note - I think we can definitively say the new intense gravy boat is just cnc’d in two halves and welded together. I’d be interested to hear some opinions on how that thing will behave? I’m assuming it can only be welded around its perimeter?
Okay, one of you with the know how needs to enhance that white board to be legible.
The Pivot lugs, the head tube looks like it might welded but the rest look all cnc.
The whiteboard lists a primer mule and a tazer SL
Whiteboard looks like...
"Primer Mule"
"HP6" with a bunch of things below it with check marks
"Tazer Recon?"
"Tazer Alloy"
"Tazer SL?" maybe SL not sure on that.
On line looks like it might say "DJ Project"
Then some other numbers that aren't really legible
Vital says in the Transmission video presentation the flattop t-type is backwards compatible. The other source was saying you will not get the claimed lifespan of components and the chain was kind of flapping on the old-gen chainring, which should be somehow occurring on the Eagle cassette too IMO.
The Camo from Wolftooth seems to be the best solution or you can jerry-rig a custom chainring bash guard if you have a friend with Solidworks and a 3D printer.
from the transmission PDF - "This chainring uses our T-Type design and is backwards compatible with Eagle technology (X-SYNC II)."
BUT, this is only described on an e-bike chainring page. it is not mentioned on other product pages in the PDF.
I know what it actually says but it looks like the primer needed a meat treat.
Looks like Headset routing for the new Meta..
I thought the new chain was "wider" internally, new chain fits on old rings, old chain won't fit on new rings? Something about the cassette having more room to spread out because of the known transmission position?
The other site says the crank and chainrings are the only parts that are backward compatible. The cassette is spaced wider with the chain to match.
T-type technology being backwards compatible with _X-Sync 2_ does make it seem like you can use the old chainring on the new drivetrains, not the other way around (new chainring on older chains). X-Sync 2, as I'm aware, is specifically the front chainring tooth shape giving A LOT longer chainring life compared to X-Sync (1).
If you have access to a CNC (in-house or a closely integrated supplier) and you have the knowledge to do CNC'd parts while you don't have a metal 3D printing machine and little to no knowledge on the design of 3D printed metal parts... They compare favourably.
Even more so when it comes to proto stuff where you don't want to deal with new technologies (you remake an old frame for that) but you're dealing with a new product. You don't want to test manufacturing processes, you want to test out the new geometry.
It's strange, I've seen some with routing through the frame and some with headset routing, I wonder if they're going to offer both?
Seems for the Tempo (sorry, T.E.M.P.O.) they had "standard" routing on prototypes, and then switched to headset routing for production.
Really shows that they don't HAVE to do it, but they're *definitely* being paid to do it.
Sorry, but who is paying Commencal to use headset cable routing? Big headset? Local bike shops to charge more for servicing?
Total garbage lol. Its done for looks to the average joe, and its cheaper production.
Vorsprung Shock?
That's the joke... the headset mafia has Commencal in their grips, and soon they will have taken over the entire industry. They will soon be paying off small steel frame manufacturers
New Intense E Bike:
https://thumbnails.mtb-news.de/cache/2000_1066_1_1_0/ab/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3c…
https://www.mtb-news.de/news/trp-evo12-erster-test/