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TheShortestCharles 9/16/2022 10:35am
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[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/16/13014/s1200_2BEF04DF_313D_4FB8_BD9F_946A69908539.jpg[/img]

Modular shock mount!! Wish more bikes had those
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AndehM 9/16/2022 10:57am
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[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/16/13017/s1200_BAD50258_C229_4F90_815F_4BF6FFC3D040.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/16/13016/s1200_D62EE182_DD51_45E1_8629_1C8B7B0101A5.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/16/13018/s1200_E1F5C261_7FCF_4092_ABCE_0FB923730CA2.jpg[/img]



Is that a threaded BB finally?!? Looks like it to me (but not super familiar with the Shimano line).
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thomas.gehrig 9/16/2022 11:56am
9/16/2022 11:56am
boozed wrote:
Is it an optical illusion or is that a really long spring? If I had to guess, that's not a 65 mm shock.
maybe it uses a dh size shock? could make sense for an enduro racing rig. Zeb up-front looks to be atleast 180 mm too...
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MTBrent 9/16/2022 12:09pm
9/16/2022 12:09pm
boozed wrote:
Is it an optical illusion or is that a really long spring? If I had to guess, that's not a 65 mm shock.
Looks like the same number of turns/coils as the shock on the WAO Arrival 170 just posted, which uses a 65mm stroke...
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jonkranked 9/16/2022 1:24pm
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AndehM wrote:
Is that a threaded BB finally?!? Looks like it to me (but not super familiar with the Shimano line).
zooming in on the image you can see BB tool splines as well.
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bike_futurist 9/16/2022 1:32pm
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boozed wrote:
Is it an optical illusion or is that a really long spring? If I had to guess, that's not a 65 mm shock.
If you look at the shock body the coil itself is way longer than it needs to be. Pretty sure it is 230 65
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Will_Narayan 9/16/2022 3:29pm
9/16/2022 3:29pm
With the Yeti on the same page, the Meta suspension looks quite similar (except of course for the infinity link of the Yeti that is a normal link on the Meta), do you think they did this to avoid broken coil shock due to high leverage forces with the longish yoke on the current kinematic ?
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FullSend 9/17/2022 1:45am
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carlinojoevideo wrote:
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boozed wrote:
Is it an optical illusion or is that a really long spring? If I had to guess, that's not a 65 mm shock.
About 99% sure that is a 250mm shock, not a 230mm. So yeah, unusually long (- it's the standard DH-bike shock size).
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Noeserd 9/17/2022 4:34am
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I forgot that size existed, yt capra uses it aswell
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Primoz 9/17/2022 11:05am
9/17/2022 11:05am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2022 11:08am
It could actually be a 250, yeah.

This is a 230 mm shock in an XL, a big one at that, frame (mine):


Though with that ZEB being a 180, the shock doesn't look THAT much bigger on the other hand too. And without going to a 180 mm frame it makes little sense to go for a 250 mm shock.
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Noeserd 9/17/2022 11:37am
9/17/2022 11:37am Edited Date/Time 9/17/2022 12:57pm
Maybe they're running a longer shock to use a very progressive system?

Old capra had a very progressive linkage too with a 250x75 shock and most people preffered it with a coil shock



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Dickscruttock 9/17/2022 12:55pm
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Thats a 230 shock on the commencal.
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FullSend 9/18/2022 2:03am
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C-LION wrote:
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/09/15/13011/s1200_3FECE272_34B2_4BDB_8A32_316EAD3F24D4.jpg[/img]
Commencal Meta V5. Production ready? 🧐


Commencal confirmed that the bike will be available in spring of 2024.
Denisxte34 9/18/2022 12:56pm
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This weekend a friend meet a french rider in andorra, he ride a new meta prototype and said that this bike have a 150 rear travel, release date next summer and meta tr dissapear, only leave meta v5 and sx.
Velocipedestrian 9/18/2022 3:17pm
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TheShortestCharles wrote:
Modular shock mount!! Wish more bikes had those
Shame it looks like trunnion.
bike_futurist 9/19/2022 3:37am
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Velocipedestrian wrote:
Shame it looks like trunnion.


I don't think thats a trunnion
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Primoz 9/19/2022 7:30am
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It's not.
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chrismckleroy 9/19/2022 10:56am
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carlinojoevideo wrote:
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TheShortestCharles wrote:
Modular shock mount!! Wish more bikes had those
How about that Rocky Mountain ride-9: thats what we're drooling about here but those microadjustments seem to get little fan fare once they are in the wild.
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pinkrobe 9/19/2022 12:34pm
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chrismckleroy wrote:
How about that Rocky Mountain ride-9: thats what we're drooling about here but those microadjustments seem to get little fan fare once they are in the...
How about that Rocky Mountain ride-9: thats what we're drooling about here but those microadjustments seem to get little fan fare once they are in the wild.
Having sold lots of RMB full-suspension for a couple of years, the Rocky Ride-9 gets left in "neutral" by the vast majority of buyers, and slammed into lowest/slackest by almost everyone else. There's always one guy who climbs in one setting, busts out a multitool at the top of the hill, and then descends in a different setting. I think his name is Gerhard, maybe Dieter, I can't remember, but he wears full lycra with short-finger gloves and can make the switchover in less than 2 minutes.
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haen 9/19/2022 1:24pm
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Denisxte34 wrote:
This weekend a friend meet a french rider in andorra, he ride a new meta prototype and said that this bike have a 150 rear travel...
This weekend a friend meet a french rider in andorra, he ride a new meta prototype and said that this bike have a 150 rear travel, release date next summer and meta tr dissapear, only leave meta v5 and sx.
I'd be surprised if they went down to 150 of rear travel from the current bike's 160 but time will tell.
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Primoz 9/19/2022 1:40pm
9/19/2022 1:40pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2022 1:41pm
Even more so with a shock that massive. Though Commencal does have a lot less travel in the rear compared to the front on most Meta variants lately...
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C-LION 9/19/2022 2:23pm
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FYI - Commencal secretly released a part of their 2023 range. Check their webpage. No new bikes, but new colors and spec.
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Velocipedestrian 9/19/2022 3:07pm
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Velocipedestrian wrote:
Shame it looks like trunnion.
bike_futurist wrote:
[img]https://www.vojomag.com/app/uploads/2022/05/DSC_6032-2.jpg[/img] I don't think thats a trunnion


I don't think thats a trunnion
Better pic. Good, Commencal don't need any extra complaints.
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Noeserd 9/19/2022 4:46pm
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C-LION wrote:
FYI - Commencal secretly released a part of their 2023 range. Check their webpage. No new bikes, but new colors and spec.
And increased price yaay
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jason.west.750 9/19/2022 5:13pm
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So, uh.. no XC bike?
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boozed 9/19/2022 6:05pm
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C-LION wrote:
FYI - Commencal secretly released a part of their 2023 range. Check their webpage. No new bikes, but new colors and spec.


This is an interesting looking "Float X", and the branding is mirrored too...

(It looks like they've just used a 3D model for the old Float X?)
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Krispy 9/19/2022 8:08pm
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I see machined chainstays and seatstays, parts like a yoke and dropouts to make said parts.

The main BB basement has a hole on one side which could be a link or shock mount. A shock mount is located under the seat mast area.

6 bar with some lower swing link?
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cheapondirt 9/19/2022 8:19pm
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Hillbilly with the newer compounds is on the Specialized website.
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Primoz 9/19/2022 9:47pm
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Krispy wrote:
I see machined chainstays and seatstays, parts like a yoke and dropouts to make said parts. The main BB basement has a hole on one side...
I see machined chainstays and seatstays, parts like a yoke and dropouts to make said parts.

The main BB basement has a hole on one side which could be a link or shock mount. A shock mount is located under the seat mast area.

6 bar with some lower swing link?
Hard to imagine where the extra link would fit...
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