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PJ205 3/24/2022 6:44pm
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[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/149827/s1600_Syndicate_Santa_Cruz_V10s.jpg[/img] Anyone know what the bike is in the foreground? Seems to be hiding in a few other shots as well. New Megatower?

Anyone know what the bike is in the foreground? Seems to be hiding in a few other shots as well. New Megatower?
Color scheme looks like the 2021 Heckler MX, which would make sense to have around for transportation around the World Cup venue:


Even the seat tube logo:

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linkage difference between loic and finn's bikes today from pit bits. thoughts on what differences are?



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stock demo for reference

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sspomer wrote:
linkage difference between loic and finn's bikes today from pit bits. thoughts on what differences are? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12253/s1200_20220324_UCI_DH_WorldCup_Lourdes_84T0716.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12254/s1200_Finn_will_be_on_the_pinky_this_weekend.jpg[/img]
linkage difference between loic and finn's bikes today from pit bits. thoughts on what differences are?



I have no idea about the linkage. Progression probably.

I hope that carbon shock cover just has a sticker that says “gotcha bitches”.
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Buttons 3/24/2022 8:41pm
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On Greg's bike he's got "test pilot" tires, but the tread looks like it could be a shorty. Is maxxis working on a new casing?

https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/149857/s1600_20220323_UCI_DH_WorldCup_Lourdes_H8A2486.jpg
bermslapper69 wrote:
There have been test pilot tires with existing treads for a while now, the ones I’ve seen in person have another layer of pinch flat/sidewall protection...
There have been test pilot tires with existing treads for a while now, the ones I’ve seen in person have another layer of pinch flat/sidewall protection compared to DH casing and was told they’re crazy heavy (in the realm of 1500g or more for a 29 DHR2)
AndehM wrote:
So, still lighter than a Michelin? Grinning
Oof yeah that's about right. Anyone know what makes them different? Are they 3-ply? Just curious, as Kieran Bennett on the inside line talked about intense making 4ply tires.
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Big Bird 3/24/2022 9:45pm
3/24/2022 9:45pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2022 9:47pm
Finn covers his link in his bike check video on his YouTube channel. His link is custom for him and he calls it more dynamic and stiffer than the stock. There are also great shots of it from the other side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oPOWjp89TM
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TruckeeRiverTroll 3/24/2022 11:07pm
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sspomer wrote:
linkage difference between loic and finn's bikes today from pit bits. thoughts on what differences are? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12253/s1200_20220324_UCI_DH_WorldCup_Lourdes_84T0716.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12254/s1200_Finn_will_be_on_the_pinky_this_weekend.jpg[/img]
linkage difference between loic and finn's bikes today from pit bits. thoughts on what differences are?



One says Super Bruni and one doesn't.
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Jack moirs proto strive
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Interesting find. Unfortunately they didnt ditch the useless shapeshifter and there seems to be no inframe storage ...

But RS products seem to be ready for launch... no more blackboxx stickers on this Charger 3 fork!
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baronKanon 3/25/2022 12:34am
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Actually, the Shapeshifter isn't that useless. I used it a LOT on my first gen Strive. Short travel/high for climbing and flat, and long travel/low for plush downhill. It worked very well for me.
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Karabuka 3/25/2022 1:03am
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powjoke wrote:
Interesting find. Unfortunately they didnt ditch the useless shapeshifter and there seems to be no inframe storage ... But RS products seem to be ready for...
Interesting find. Unfortunately they didnt ditch the useless shapeshifter and there seems to be no inframe storage ...

But RS products seem to be ready for launch... no more blackboxx stickers on this Charger 3 fork!
Strive is supposed to be the most versatile bike in their lineup and shapeshifter is pretty much an integral part of this design, my friends who ride strive all use it! If you need more heavy hitting bike, canyon has you covered with other models...
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Primoz 3/25/2022 1:16am
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sspomer wrote:
linkage difference between loic and finn's bikes today from pit bits. thoughts on what differences are? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12253/s1200_20220324_UCI_DH_WorldCup_Lourdes_84T0716.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12254/s1200_Finn_will_be_on_the_pinky_this_weekend.jpg[/img]
linkage difference between loic and finn's bikes today from pit bits. thoughts on what differences are?



The shape of leverage ratio through the travel. The overall leverage ratio (rear wheel travel vs. shock stroke) is likely the same or very similar. So tuning linearity and progressivity.
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Nico_Ofner 3/25/2022 1:45am
3/25/2022 1:45am
Buttons wrote:
On Greg's bike he's got "test pilot" tires, but the tread looks like it could be a shorty. Is maxxis working on a new casing?

https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/149857/s1600_20220323_UCI_DH_WorldCup_Lourdes_H8A2486.jpg
bermslapper69 wrote:
There have been test pilot tires with existing treads for a while now, the ones I’ve seen in person have another layer of pinch flat/sidewall protection...
There have been test pilot tires with existing treads for a while now, the ones I’ve seen in person have another layer of pinch flat/sidewall protection compared to DH casing and was told they’re crazy heavy (in the realm of 1500g or more for a 29 DHR2)
Primoz wrote:
ZK casing?
A bit heavier than the normal DH casing, but not crazy heavy. Quite a bit lighter than DH casing plus insert would be.
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imonly29 3/25/2022 3:19am
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French Magazine "Vojomag" has some Megatower spyshots, it has a SWAT!
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Primoz 3/25/2022 3:24am
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bermslapper69 wrote:
There have been test pilot tires with existing treads for a while now, the ones I’ve seen in person have another layer of pinch flat/sidewall protection...
There have been test pilot tires with existing treads for a while now, the ones I’ve seen in person have another layer of pinch flat/sidewall protection compared to DH casing and was told they’re crazy heavy (in the realm of 1500g or more for a 29 DHR2)
Primoz wrote:
ZK casing?
Nico_Ofner wrote:
A bit heavier than the normal DH casing, but not crazy heavy. Quite a bit lighter than DH casing plus insert would be.
I meant if the new casing is the ZK casing. That one isn't particularly new...
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imonly29 3/25/2022 3:30am
3/25/2022 3:30am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2022 3:31am
imonly29 wrote:
French Magazine "Vojomag" has some Megatower spyshots, it has a SWAT!
Christiaan_van der Laan wrote:
We need pictures!!!!😬😬
Paul did some nice pictures! (did that work?) hehe it worked! Enjoy!








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Christiaan_van der Laan 3/25/2022 3:42am
3/25/2022 3:42am
imonly29 wrote:
French Magazine "Vojomag" has some Megatower spyshots, it has a SWAT!
Christiaan_van der Laan wrote:
We need pictures!!!!😬😬
imonly29 wrote:
Paul did some nice pictures! (did that work?) hehe it worked! Enjoy! [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12258/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12260/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_3.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12263/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_4.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12259/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_6.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12262/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_8.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12261/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_9.jpg[/img]
Paul did some nice pictures! (did that work?) hehe it worked! Enjoy!








Thanks alot, hadn’t seen those. Looks like bigger squarer downtube, box and more square swingarm? More of a refresh I guess
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João_Sousa 3/25/2022 4:49am
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LookinForIt wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/09/12146/s1200_Screenshot_2022_03_09_at_11_39_53_sleep_score_photos_d1e4d2cc_5643_4c11_9211_c246113ec4be_2048x2048_jpg_WEBP_Image_1100_....jpg[/img] I know it's older news by now but I was thinking about NA-based frames I'm excited for and realised I hadn't seen this image on...


I know it's older news by now but I was thinking about NA-based frames I'm excited for and realised I hadn't seen this image on here so here's another look at the full sus Chromag seems to be working on...
From my understanding, it's not exactly hush-hush and they are seen a lot around Whis, but they haven't released it yet
Do you have more info or photos about that bike ? I´m really interested eheh
bermslapper69 3/25/2022 5:52am
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imonly29 wrote:
French Magazine "Vojomag" has some Megatower spyshots, it has a SWAT!
Christiaan_van der Laan wrote:
We need pictures!!!!😬😬
imonly29 wrote:
Paul did some nice pictures! (did that work?) hehe it worked! Enjoy! [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12258/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12260/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_3.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12263/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_4.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12259/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_6.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12262/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_8.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12261/s1200_spy_shot_santa_cruz_mega_tower_lourdes_2022_vojo_paul_humbert_9.jpg[/img]
Paul did some nice pictures! (did that work?) hehe it worked! Enjoy!








Interesting rear tire choice, I wonder if they’re speccing that because of parts shortages
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Brian_Peterson 3/25/2022 6:35am
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bermslapper69 wrote:
Interesting rear tire choice, I wonder if they’re speccing that because of parts shortages
Probably on there since the bike is on a trainer...
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LukeD 3/25/2022 6:48am
3/25/2022 6:48am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2022 6:54am
new pulley guide design on a Forbidden. I know they spoke about having a DH bike in the works... not sure if this is it or just a modified dreadnought.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbhDExEsTL2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

edit: didn't see this in the pit bits 4 until now. kinda repost.
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TEAMROBOT 3/25/2022 6:50am
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Looks like tons of tire clearance with the stock rear tire on that new Megatower

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lloyd506 3/25/2022 7:36am
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LookinForIt wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/09/12146/s1200_Screenshot_2022_03_09_at_11_39_53_sleep_score_photos_d1e4d2cc_5643_4c11_9211_c246113ec4be_2048x2048_jpg_WEBP_Image_1100_....jpg[/img] I know it's older news by now but I was thinking about NA-based frames I'm excited for and realised I hadn't seen this image on...


I know it's older news by now but I was thinking about NA-based frames I'm excited for and realised I hadn't seen this image on here so here's another look at the full sus Chromag seems to be working on...
From my understanding, it's not exactly hush-hush and they are seen a lot around Whis, but they haven't released it yet
João_Sousa wrote:
Do you have more info or photos about that bike ? I´m really interested eheh
That’s an old proto
There are some of the new production bikes around.
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saw this in our pit bits video - is this for a DH/saint microspline cassette? i'm not super familiar w/ the full run of shimano stuff, but syndicate rear wheel w/ microspline chris king hub. do they make compact microspline cassettes that a DHer would use?
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Christiaan_van der Laan 3/25/2022 9:14am
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sspomer wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12269/s1200_Screen_Shot_2022_03_25_at_8.42.55_AM.jpg[/img] saw this in [url=https://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/features/Lourdes-World-Cup-Downhill-Bike-Tech,39853/sspomer,2]our pit bits video[/url] - is this for a DH/saint microspline cassette? i'm not super familiar w/ the full run of shimano...


saw this in our pit bits video - is this for a DH/saint microspline cassette? i'm not super familiar w/ the full run of shimano stuff, but syndicate rear wheel w/ microspline chris king hub. do they make compact microspline cassettes that a DHer would use?
My guess the stuff Greg is riding is microspline cassette for dh
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hamncheez2003 3/25/2022 9:38am
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baronKanon wrote:
Actually, the Shapeshifter isn't that useless. I used it a LOT on my first gen Strive. Short travel/high for climbing and flat, and long travel/low for...
Actually, the Shapeshifter isn't that useless. I used it a LOT on my first gen Strive. Short travel/high for climbing and flat, and long travel/low for plush downhill. It worked very well for me.
Ha, should we resurrect the old Magic Link? The first gen was still hacky, but after that they worked really, really well.
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baronKanon 3/25/2022 11:23am
3/25/2022 11:23am
baronKanon wrote:
Actually, the Shapeshifter isn't that useless. I used it a LOT on my first gen Strive. Short travel/high for climbing and flat, and long travel/low for...
Actually, the Shapeshifter isn't that useless. I used it a LOT on my first gen Strive. Short travel/high for climbing and flat, and long travel/low for plush downhill. It worked very well for me.
hamncheez2003 wrote:
Ha, should we resurrect the old Magic Link? The first gen was still hacky, but after that they worked really, really well.
Hahahaha. Two not even similar products.
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HugoLane wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12256/s1200_6ED6F715_F9B0_4DE6_AA85_B9B484A2A8B9.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/24/12257/s1200_C9E332E4_E869_4D7E_85EB_3CC1F7B6A8EE.jpg[/img] Jack moirs proto strive



Jack moirs proto strive
Am I the only one recognizing that Kev seems to be running ODI Grips with only Ergon End-Caps?
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TimBud 3/25/2022 11:55am
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sspomer wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/03/25/12269/s1200_Screen_Shot_2022_03_25_at_8.42.55_AM.jpg[/img] saw this in [url=https://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/features/Lourdes-World-Cup-Downhill-Bike-Tech,39853/sspomer,2]our pit bits video[/url] - is this for a DH/saint microspline cassette? i'm not super familiar w/ the full run of shimano...


saw this in our pit bits video - is this for a DH/saint microspline cassette? i'm not super familiar w/ the full run of shimano stuff, but syndicate rear wheel w/ microspline chris king hub. do they make compact microspline cassettes that a DHer would use?
Could just be building a wheel for one of their other bikes

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