2016 Racing Rumours

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1/7/2016 6:02pm Edited Date/Time 1/7/2016 6:07pm
I hate to continue the KTM talk, but I am genuinely curious here.

Everybody is talking like KTM (moto) does not take any part in the MTB scene (sponsorship wise), but have they not been supporting the Austrian national team for several years? I seem to recall both XC and DH Austrian national jerseys at world champs always being filled with KTM logos. It doesn't seem logical that the bicycle company would do this as none of them actually ride KTM's.




1/7/2016 6:17pm
I'm guessing Gwin is off TLD. Stikman had a post on his thread (appears to be down?) talking about how it's hard to keep Pro's longterm.
My Guess KTM/YT Alpinestars/Fox

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1/7/2016 6:17pm
In that link from KTM hiring staff, there was mention of moto AND bike design requirements. Could Mr. Rojo be the man of the season?
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1/7/2016 6:26pm
greenland to mondraker
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1/7/2016 6:31pm
billy wrote:
greenland to mondraker
That is what I am hoping, but where did you see or read that?
1/7/2016 7:04pm
Ktm and trek from a local so cal kid. Aaron should create his own development team.

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1/7/2016 8:21pm
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1/7/2016 9:34pm
I hate to continue the KTM talk, but I am genuinely curious here. Everybody is talking like KTM (moto) does not take any part in the...
I hate to continue the KTM talk, but I am genuinely curious here.

Everybody is talking like KTM (moto) does not take any part in the MTB scene (sponsorship wise), but have they not been supporting the Austrian national team for several years? I seem to recall both XC and DH Austrian national jerseys at world champs always being filled with KTM logos. It doesn't seem logical that the bicycle company would do this as none of them actually ride KTM's.




The KTM logo on the jerseys is (as far as I know) because of the sponsoring of the ÖRV (austrian national cycling federation)

...only my two cents

Don't see KTM (moto) doing that - 2016 they need their budget in moto gp and the vacant position at Rojo's company is, in my opinion, related to the KTM demands when building new moto gp rigs.

anyway - just my two cents cut down to 1,50 ;-)
1/8/2016 12:07am
So you think KTM, who plans to enter motogp in 2016, hired an outside company to develop their bike, and that company has left it until late 2015 to hire an engineer for the project?

And with regards to budget, companies dont pick one project a year and spend all their available cash on it, the motogp budget will be completely separate from a marketing budget which will be completely separate to a product development budget.

Also if you were developing a motogp bike, existing mx bikes and road bikes, would it not make sense that if you were thinking about entering a smaller market (such as mtb), you would subcontract the project to a company with more experience developing mtbs?

I dont think Gwin will be on a KTM, but if he is sponsored by them this year i would expect a market entry in the next 2/3/4 years
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1/8/2016 12:19am
Just to clear that up and I see we are "cherry picking" every word - going into read only mode after that - it is to time consuming

KTM will start in Moto GP in 2017 - Roll-Out (public/official or what the f... you want to call it) of the new bike was in November 2015

http://www.motogp.com/de/nachrichten/2015/11/02/ktm-rc16-erfolgreiches-…

Yes, I think a company that seriously want´s to compete in Moto GP and does mainly MX bikes will hire a outside company for development. The "oustider" has the resources and if everything goes to shit you can just cancel the contract and do not have to deal with "funny" Austrian labor unions because of the lay off of people you do not need anymore.

I am not a specialist regarding Moto GP development programs, but I think it is smart to go to someone with more know how than you have inhouse.

Regarding the budget
I thing the same way you do - but KTM "dances" on many parties and I really think Moto GP development eats up enough budget that you do not have "play money" left for something that is not really your core business.

Like I said before - just my 2 cents
1/8/2016 12:55am
Yeah its only my opinion also, i have no true insight into KTM so im not saying anything you've said is wrong just that i don't find it likely. And i wasn't cherry picking, i also thought it was 2016 they were entering.

I've worked for a manufacturer with an F1 team and its basically like being in a separate company, and even F1 teams will go outside for certain aspects of design. So i guess the point i was trying to make is that i doubt CERO is leading any motogp development, possibly just collaborating/consulting on parts.

I would have to admit that im probably 100% wrong on KTM producing a mountainbike, but its always nice to imagine more big players entering the industry.

This thread is 99% speculation, but i gotta admit i love the discussion on marketing/product development strategy it brings.

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1/8/2016 1:27am
boogenman wrote:
Gwin to Intense
CombatMutt wrote:
I would love that. American rider on an American bike would be fantastic.
Primoz wrote:
Specialized not American enough?
or trek or yeti haha
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1/8/2016 2:09am
Yeah its only my opinion also, i have no true insight into KTM so im not saying anything you've said is wrong just that i don't...
Yeah its only my opinion also, i have no true insight into KTM so im not saying anything you've said is wrong just that i don't find it likely. And i wasn't cherry picking, i also thought it was 2016 they were entering.

I've worked for a manufacturer with an F1 team and its basically like being in a separate company, and even F1 teams will go outside for certain aspects of design. So i guess the point i was trying to make is that i doubt CERO is leading any motogp development, possibly just collaborating/consulting on parts.

I would have to admit that im probably 100% wrong on KTM producing a mountainbike, but its always nice to imagine more big players entering the industry.

This thread is 99% speculation, but i gotta admit i love the discussion on marketing/product development strategy it brings.

@responsiblepirate
sorry for my unclear statement - the cherry picking was not meant entirely in your direction. there were discussion about other small tiny details before and sometimes I feel like we all drift away and forget about MTB´s ;-)

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1/8/2016 3:12am
Yeah its only my opinion also, i have no true insight into KTM so im not saying anything you've said is wrong just that i don't...
Yeah its only my opinion also, i have no true insight into KTM so im not saying anything you've said is wrong just that i don't find it likely. And i wasn't cherry picking, i also thought it was 2016 they were entering.

I've worked for a manufacturer with an F1 team and its basically like being in a separate company, and even F1 teams will go outside for certain aspects of design. So i guess the point i was trying to make is that i doubt CERO is leading any motogp development, possibly just collaborating/consulting on parts.

I would have to admit that im probably 100% wrong on KTM producing a mountainbike, but its always nice to imagine more big players entering the industry.

This thread is 99% speculation, but i gotta admit i love the discussion on marketing/product development strategy it brings.

lister_yu wrote:
@responsiblepirate sorry for my unclear statement - the cherry picking was not meant entirely in your direction. there were discussion about other small tiny details before...
@responsiblepirate
sorry for my unclear statement - the cherry picking was not meant entirely in your direction. there were discussion about other small tiny details before and sometimes I feel like we all drift away and forget about MTB´s ;-)

to clear one thing up, KTM are racing Moto GP in 2017 but have developed the bike in-house thus far... http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/11/02/succesful-debut-for-ktm-s-rc16-motogp-bike/188719
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1/8/2016 9:04am
CombatMutt wrote:
I would love that. American rider on an American bike would be fantastic.
Primoz wrote:
Specialized not American enough?
trex84 wrote:
or trek or yeti haha
A point I have completely forgotten about! Thank you sir!
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1/8/2016 9:43am
some enduro team news from Fuji below.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Fuji Signs Mountain Biker Lauren Gregg

Philadelphia, PA (January 7, 2016) – Fuji Bikes is proud to announce that Lauren Gregg will be racing aboard the new Fuji Auric for the 2016 and 2017 seasons. Gregg will be gunning for podiums at the California Enduro Series (CES), the big races of the Western states of the USA, and North American stops of the Enduro World Series (EWS) in 2016 – with the full EWS circuit on tap for 2017.

Gregg is coming off a standout season that featured a bronze medal at the USA Enduro National Championships, 2nd-place overall in the California Enduro Series, and a Pro podium at the Sea Otter Classic.

“Lauren had a great 2015 season and we are so stoked to have her racing for Fuji in 2016 and 2017. We can’t wait to help her reclaim her CES overall title and get some podiums at EWS events”, said Fuji Mountain Bike Marketing Manager Brian McKinney.

“I’m excited about this opportunity to ride for Fuji,” said Gregg. “Fuji has been great to work with so far. They are just as stoked about racing as I am, and I’m really happy to be a part of their new Enduro program. Fuji is committed to moving forward in the sport, so working with their brand is a really good fit for me. The bike is tons of fun, and I was very impressed when I first had the opportunity to demo it. It handles well, and I’m excited to get it out there on the race course and on top of some podiums.”

Lauren will be racing the new Fuji Auric with MLink™ suspension.

To learn more about the Fuji Auric and MLink™ please visit: www.fujibikes.com/auric

ABOUT FUJI BIKES 
Established in 1899, the Fuji brand is one of the oldest surviving bicycle brands in the world. Guided by three core principles - strength, heritage, and craftsmanship - Fuji's steadfast philosophy in utilizing the most advanced technology and incorporating elite athlete input into its high-performance products has enabled the brand to endure while others have faltered. Fuji offers a complete line of premium bikes - road, specialty, mountain, women's, kids, urban, transportation, comfort, and cruiser - through its network of specialty bicycle retailers across the globe.

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About Lauren Gregg
Lauren Gregg fell in love with mountain biking and has been racing since 2009. After a few years on the Pro XC circuit, she made the switch to Enduro and never looked back. Lauren’s first Enduro season ended in taking the Pro California Enduro Series Champion title, and she is aggressively moving forward with her eyes on the EWS. Passionate about sharing and progressing the sport, Lauren is a NICA High School League coach and works with race organizers to help support Enduro in the States.

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1/8/2016 10:13am
Well I don't think Norco would bother foreshadowing something that wasn't a big announcement.
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1/8/2016 10:52am
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Laurie Greenland?
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1/8/2016 11:00am
Leov, maybe?
1/8/2016 11:21am
Never expected that!
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1/8/2016 11:36am
brimmergj wrote:
Leov, maybe?
I see Leov too.
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1/8/2016 11:41am
But Gwin can't go to a Canadian company, that would be the worst thing an American champ could do!! lol
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1/8/2016 11:42am
Hmm... I thought Leov would be going to either Canyon or Yeti.
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1/8/2016 11:57am
Mitch? looks similar and fits with the feel of that team....
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1/8/2016 12:06pm
From the XC side of things, Todd Wells will be racing for the SRAM TLD squad - and by the looks of it - on a Scott.



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1/8/2016 12:40pm
I don't know but for me he looks definitely like a Gwinny...
1/8/2016 12:44pm
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cheeselad wrote:
Laurie Greenland?
Are you blind? Haha get yourself to an opticians
1/8/2016 4:45pm
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WOW it has to be Aaron Gwin.... remember the brad benedict comment "looks like a session" maybe referring tho he aurum, also in the picture there is a comment of perform mx which is where Gwin trains. this must be it!
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WOW it has to be Aaron Gwin.... remember the brad benedict comment "looks like a session" maybe referring tho he aurum, also in the picture there...
WOW it has to be Aaron Gwin.... remember the brad benedict comment "looks like a session" maybe referring tho he aurum, also in the picture there is a comment of perform mx which is where Gwin trains. this must be it!
Can't tell if serious or trolling. Soo.... Good job!

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