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Brian_Peterson 7/30/2021 7:39am
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TEAMROBOT wrote:
Metadave you just described a horror movie for me. I would throw that bike in the garbage if I had to do all that to swap...
Metadave you just described a horror movie for me. I would throw that bike in the garbage if I had to do all that to swap to a **slightly** longer stem length.

Oh, but who cares about adjusting bike fit on a high performance road bike, amiright?
Roadies will obsess with fit numbers like mountain bikers obsess with CS length, reach, HT and ST angles...

Whatever happened to Ask Team Robot? I feel like I killed it.. I sent something in and never saw the feature again...
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Losifer 7/30/2021 8:32am
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Losifer wrote:
Interesting… I have a new ‘21/‘22 Onyx that has a few upgrades. The graphics are new, maybe the one in this pic got to Freehub before...
Interesting…

I have a new ‘21/‘22 Onyx that has a few upgrades. The graphics are new, maybe the one in this pic got to Freehub before those new graphics were ready?

“The biggest changes are the lowers are a new casting and the bushings are new from a different manufacturer that allows us to get the tolerance down to 0.01mm”

“The uppers are a new coating with a new press process thats so far has eliminated any creeking and has a massive reduction in friction”

“We have a new air piston, new damper seal head, new bladder, compression tune, new air bleeders and a firmer OTT spring seat to prevent any rattle” (stolen from a thread from another forum)
farozm wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/07/30/11218/s1200_IMG_20210718_121259.jpg[/img] Does your fork looks something similar to this?

Does your fork looks something similar to this?
Yes, but in “none more black.”


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Martin_Prophet 7/30/2021 8:37am
7/30/2021 8:37am
Sonofbovril2 wrote:
Not the greatest pic but it looks like Ohlins is trying some kind of gold coating on the shaft of the TTX (off Chris Grice’s vlog)[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/07/29/11214/s1200_4E99482F_FFC7_4275_B8F2_0E4094391672.jpg[/img]
Not the greatest pic but it looks like Ohlins is trying some kind of gold coating on the shaft of the TTX (off Chris Grice’s vlog)


Not new. Bruni running the golden shaft since two years
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pablo_b 7/31/2021 5:00am
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Our bike shop will get some Hope spd pedals to test. If I can get a picture of them I will post and if Im not allowed I will at least very thoroughly describe them.
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icantride 8/1/2021 1:38am
8/1/2021 1:38am
pablo_b wrote:
Our bike shop will get some Hope spd pedals to test. If I can get a picture of them I will post and if Im not...
Our bike shop will get some Hope spd pedals to test. If I can get a picture of them I will post and if Im not allowed I will at least very thoroughly describe them.
I saw a Hope supported rider using them at a race last weekend. At a glance they looked a bit like a cross between Time Speciale and HT T1 pedals. Looked to be using a Shimano style SPD clip. Apparently being released next weekend at Ard Rock
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noeserdalt 8/1/2021 10:30am
8/1/2021 10:30am Edited Date/Time 8/1/2021 10:32am
Evil Ebike



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jofournier 8/1/2021 4:54pm
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Some fine folks at Evil will most likely be pissed!
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Angu58 8/2/2021 1:56am
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Those look great. If I rode flats I would be all over them.
Hopefully this means Saint is released soon - Any more information since the prototype derailleur? New brakes, pedals rotors?
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TayRob 8/2/2021 6:02am
8/2/2021 6:02am
I'll wait to pass judgment on the Evil until the actual numbers are posted, but it looks fairly conservative geo. wise. I'm guessing the baller build spec will be in the realm of 5 digits, too.

Those Shimano flats look incredible! The last XT flats were thick boat anchors. It sounds like they intend to have the outer sides of the Saint pedal be replaceable, what's the over under on them actually ever having those pieces in stock?
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sspomer 8/2/2021 8:11am
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those saint pedals are news over here. shimano site page for the deets if diff than the bikerumor page https://bike.shimano.com/en-US/product/component/saint-m820/PD-M829.html



Dual concave platform
Fore-Aft: 16.1 - 11.6 - 16.1 mm
Sideway: 13.9 - 11.6 - 13.9 mm
10 pins, +4 optional inner positions
6 mm and 3 mm pins included
Wide platform for more support and grip optimized for DH race, park riding and enduro riding
Platform size: 121 x 110 mm
Durable and thin pedal body with carbon skid plate
Aluminum + Carbon composite resin
Center thickness: 11.6 mm
Durable chrome-moly axle and thin pedal body
New axle and bushing construction
8 mm hexagon wrench mount
Weight: 397 g
156 g lighter than PD-MX80
Best combination with SHIMANO GR series shoes


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mitch160 8/2/2021 8:14am
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Is this the we are one bike?
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NateMob 8/2/2021 8:21am
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That's their Da Stem so I'd think so.
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Eoin 8/2/2021 8:29am
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Do we expect any updates to the Saint clipless pedal? Was about to get a pair, but a refresh closer to that flat pedal design would be way more interesting!
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krabo83 8/2/2021 10:25am
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mitch160 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/02/11229/s1200_p5pb21042042.jpg[/img]Is this the we are one bike?
Is this the we are one bike?
looks similar to a prime thunderflash. DW-link?
Philip_Rossetti 8/2/2021 10:30am
8/2/2021 10:30am
NateMob wrote:
That's their Da Stem so I'd think so.
And their wheels too!
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manhattanprjkt83 8/2/2021 3:09pm
8/2/2021 3:09pm
noeserdalt wrote:
Evil Ebike [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/01/11227/s1200_Screenshot_20210801_202946_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Evil Ebike



someone done messed up.
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manhattanprjkt83 8/2/2021 3:10pm
8/2/2021 3:10pm
If this isn't called the E-vil, i'll riot.
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jonkranked 8/3/2021 6:26am
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hope pedals are live. proprietary cleat design. just looks like a wider interface than spd?
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jonkranked 8/3/2021 7:56am
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mitch160 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/02/11229/s1200_p5pb21042042.jpg[/img]Is this the we are one bike?
Is this the we are one bike?
yes, its live on their site:

https://www.weareonecomposites.com/the-arrival
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noeserdalt 8/3/2021 4:44pm
8/3/2021 4:44pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2021 4:46pm
New road groupset from shimano

DI2 maybe? something on the dearilleur for sure and different spider on the crank





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grambo 8/3/2021 4:51pm
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I think there's been pics of next gen Dura Ace from the Tour this year? Not fully wireless unfortunately, too bad.

Integrated cables on road bikes (and modern road frames in general) are super slick and cool to look at. The people buying that high end of builds should understand and be OK with the cost of mechanics to work on it. Would suck to be a bike shop with clueless customers not understanding that though.
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TimBud 8/3/2021 10:30pm
8/3/2021 10:30pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2021 10:40pm
noeserdalt wrote:
New road groupset from shimano DI2 maybe? something on the dearilleur for sure and different spider on the crank [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/03/11230/s1200_0_9642f391_844_CUBE_LITENING_C_68X_SLT.jpg[/img]
New road groupset from shimano

DI2 maybe? something on the dearilleur for sure and different spider on the crank





Cycling tips had some decent shots of it



I don't mind that it's wired down at the mechs because that will mean it could have decent battery life. And the shifters are supposed to be wireless so that will make the cockpit setup up so much simpler.
I'm more excited to see what they'll be doing with XTR Di2 and what kind of solution they'll use for the mech battery (it's always a bit trickier to find a good location in mtb frames)

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jonkranked 8/4/2021 5:24am
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YT has been acquired by a private equity firm. now stands for "Young Trustafarians"
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jonkranked 8/4/2021 5:29am
8/4/2021 5:29am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2021 5:40am
grambo wrote:
I think there's been pics of next gen Dura Ace from the Tour this year? Not fully wireless unfortunately, too bad. Integrated cables on road bikes...
I think there's been pics of next gen Dura Ace from the Tour this year? Not fully wireless unfortunately, too bad.

Integrated cables on road bikes (and modern road frames in general) are super slick and cool to look at. The people buying that high end of builds should understand and be OK with the cost of mechanics to work on it. Would suck to be a bike shop with clueless customers not understanding that though.
probably new Dura Ace. Current platform (9100) was released in 2016. the last time Dura Ace went 5 years without an upgrade was the 7800 platform released in 2003.

edit: appears to be a 12 spd grouppo.
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jonkranked 8/4/2021 5:38am
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that reminds me, the current saint platform (m820, released 2012) is the longest running platform between road and cycling (9 years and counting). next closest was ultegra 9 speed (6500 platform, 8 years, launched 1997 replaced by ultegra 10spd 6600 in 2005)
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jonkranked 8/4/2021 8:03am
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sspomer wrote:
e-dirt jump bikes are finally here https://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/member/There-is-Now-an-e-Dirt-Jump-Bike-and-Someone-Does-a-360-Bunnyhop-on-it,39172/sspomer,2 [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2021/08/04/11231/s1200_Screen_Shot_2021_08_04_at_8.37.23_AM.jpg[/img]
e-dirt jump bikes are finally here
https://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/member/There-is-Now-an-e-Dirt-Jump-Bike…


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Eoin 8/4/2021 8:08am
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Not a rumor as they are announced since yesterday, but weird to see almost 0 press about the new Giant e-Reign despite a brand new motor unique to the brand and pretty good looking builds at each price point:

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/fr/bikes-reign-eplus-2022

Seems only the french and german markets have them listed and no one has ridden them. Isn't Giant the biggest brand on earth?? So weird.
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