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Lacanuck24 11/16/2018 12:16am
11/16/2018 12:16am
Primoz wrote:
Roubaix cafe?

Specialized's legal department likes to find trademark infringements. Legally totally in their rights but outraged the cycling community. I won't link a specific article, dealers choice for who's POV you want to read.

If I remember right, a big question people had was how can Specialized copyright "Roubaix" when it's the name of a town?

Specialized sues Cafe Roubaix search
Klink du Kul 11/16/2018 12:44am
11/16/2018 12:44am
A bit off topic - but oh well: The Big Spesh has been notorious for copy right infringement litigation (after buying a patent to prevent US companies for using horst link without paying substantial royalty fees) for a decade+ or so while infringing on smaller brands patents at the same time. While it has been their right to sue infringers from a legal standpoint, it is still a bit untoward conduct from a brand created by rebranding other brands' bikes and using other people's patents without paying for it. The biking industry is not the tech industry (check out Samsung v Apple for copyright litigation...) Spesh also changed their billing process during the recession, supposedly putting a lot of small bike shops out of business for having to pay Spesh on a very short notice for what was in stock rather than on selling the bikes as i believe was the norm previously. I might be mistaken. Spesh also demands a lot of control and near exclusivity from their main dealers, while not always showing the same loyalty the other way around. I also remember our local brand rep selling Demos at the end of season a few years ago while claiming that next years bikes were near identical - except they were nothing of the sort with significantly altered geo transforming the demo from a freeride bike to a dh race bike.

In all honesty, i have detested Spesh due to the aforementioned behavior since i can remember, so there might be a bit of a bias on my part to find wrong doing on their part... Wink

It will be interesting to see what Bruni and the other froggies might have them develop after supposedly not being overly fond of the prototype mentioned previously in this thread. Hopefully things will work out for Graves as well. Not staying by him if his contract has run out will not do wonders for Spesh' already tattered reputation, even if they probably pay well while under contract.
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mfoga 11/16/2018 4:39am
11/16/2018 4:39am
Is it possible that Graves chose not to resign a contract? We have no idea what is happening behind the scenes, what they have done to help him or haven’t done. Maybe he doesn’t want to possibly take a spot from an active racer. To blame Specialized right now seems like a reason to hate based on the past.
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thomas.gehrig 11/16/2018 6:25am
11/16/2018 6:25am
It could totally be possible that he chose not to renew the contract seeing as he's still recovering. Unneeded racing stress probably being one of the main things to avoid while recovering. At the same time, Specialized has a history for not always being transparent and sometimes cutting ties abruptly when things don't go their way...

back on topic boys!
Broken_spoke.photo 11/16/2018 10:46am
11/16/2018 10:46am
Hittheshowers13 wrote:
Looks like Finn was getting along fine with that proto 29er earlier this year... Holy shit those boys are quick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN6eVEER1x8
Primoz wrote:
It's just camera angles and creative editing. They only seem fast.

:D
That was the Prototype Demo 29. The same one that Miranda Miller was on at fort william. It has a different rear end than the previous demo.

But can somebody make a 2019/2020 bike rumor forum? instead of posting things on the racing rumors.
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aj_driscoll 11/16/2018 1:44pm
11/16/2018 1:44pm
John Hall with Charlie Harrison - More evidence of Gwin to Intense.


Brock_Fisher 11/16/2018 2:38pm
11/16/2018 2:38pm
Primoz wrote:
Roubaix cafe?
Lacanuck24 wrote:
Specialized's legal department likes to find trademark infringements. Legally totally in their rights but outraged the cycling community. I won't link a specific article, dealers choice...

Specialized's legal department likes to find trademark infringements. Legally totally in their rights but outraged the cycling community. I won't link a specific article, dealers choice for who's POV you want to read.

If I remember right, a big question people had was how can Specialized copyright "Roubaix" when it's the name of a town?

Specialized sues Cafe Roubaix search
You missed the part where Specialized seem to just forget the whole part where the Fuji bike brand licences the ‘Roubaix’ name to Specialized in the United States.... Oh and Specialized were never given the green light to register the name in Canada but did so anyways...

Turns out the internet isn't a fan of large companies lying about what is theirs....

BUT! LETS GET BACK TO RUMORS!
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AaronYo 11/17/2018 1:52am
11/17/2018 1:52am
Laughing Just because John Hall is hanging out with chuck doesnt mean AG is on intense.. John is a pretty darn cool person to hang out with regardless of team movements!
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mtbAndy 11/17/2018 5:39am
11/17/2018 5:39am
aj_driscoll wrote:
John Hall with Charlie Harrison - More evidence of Gwin to Intense. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2018/11/16/6967/s1200_Capture.jpg[/img]
John Hall with Charlie Harrison - More evidence of Gwin to Intense.


Or maybe AG is retiring and Hall is just trying to find a way to make ends meet.
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Euskafreez 11/17/2018 9:12am
11/17/2018 9:12am Edited Date/Time 11/17/2018 9:13am
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After all the PR fiasco Specialized was through in the last couple of years * cough-cough, Roubaix cafe *, I am pretty sure they are very...
After all the PR fiasco Specialized was through in the last couple of years * cough-cough, Roubaix cafe *, I am pretty sure they are very aware of the image damage they are risking in such a case, even their contract with Jared ends this year anyway, so I am sure they will play nice, as they have good reasons to do so. Not to mention the fact that besides contracts and business, Specialized is still a bunch of people and those people tie connections, so I am pretty sure Graves has a ton of support from Specialized, one way or the other.

This also reminds of Johnny Waddell and what class acts Santa Cruz and Red Bull have been, as he is still keeps connections to them, if my information is correct.

Much love to Graves regardless of our talk here,
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How is Johnny Waddell these days? I remember that crash at St. Anne.
I met Josh in December 2014 for a job interview at a bike shop around Cape Schanck, which was on the other side of the bay from Philip Island.

Josh was wrenching for that Giant's shop few days a week. Still a top lad despite what he has to overcome ever since his crash at MSA. He was giving me tour of the shop but we all talked about was about the good old time of DH racing. That guy is a legend and an absolute animal and a total gentleman. He was racing marathon xc and triathlon back then.
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Sven_Claas 11/18/2018 2:00am
11/18/2018 2:00am
Although Scott and Nino sounds/seems like a bond for the lifetime.. Perhaps something changing? They've had a Scott-team-gala thing last night.


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bikertom 11/18/2018 2:25am
11/18/2018 2:25am
Sven_Claas wrote:
Although Scott and Nino sounds/seems like a bond for the lifetime.. Perhaps something changing? They've had a Scott-team-gala thing last night. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2018/11/18/6969/s1200_Schermafbeelding_2018_11_18_om_10.53.39.jpg[/img]
Although Scott and Nino sounds/seems like a bond for the lifetime.. Perhaps something changing? They've had a Scott-team-gala thing last night.


..or he just thanked the team for another amazing season. A team gala is a perfect occasion for that. Smile
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Maxipedia 11/18/2018 2:49am
11/18/2018 2:49am
Euskafreez wrote:
I met Josh in December 2014 for a job interview at a bike shop around Cape Schanck, which was on the other side of the bay...
I met Josh in December 2014 for a job interview at a bike shop around Cape Schanck, which was on the other side of the bay from Philip Island.

Josh was wrenching for that Giant's shop few days a week. Still a top lad despite what he has to overcome ever since his crash at MSA. He was giving me tour of the shop but we all talked about was about the good old time of DH racing. That guy is a legend and an absolute animal and a total gentleman. He was racing marathon xc and triathlon back then.
You mean Johnny, right? Smile Either way, glad he is alright! Cheers!
BrandonToFlat 11/18/2018 9:56am
11/18/2018 9:56am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2018 6:24am
edit spomer here - i deleted the photo because eliot jackson asked us to. he said, "i had to choose between riding with a childhood hero or not because i was on the wrong bike and then someone screenshotted the ricky carmichael story."

no news here regarding EJ.

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Maxipedia 11/18/2018 10:44am
11/18/2018 10:44am
I thought Eliot was riding just moto in TLD gear.
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vinny4130 11/18/2018 5:18pm
11/18/2018 5:18pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2018 5:35pm
That kinda confirms something I heard about gigantic ditching the DH bike and program. I hope it’s not so. The frame needs an update.
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steveperry 11/18/2018 6:22pm
11/18/2018 6:22pm
bikertom wrote:
..or he just thanked the team for another amazing season. A team gala is a perfect occasion for that. Smile
So, Nino is now not tagging Scott on IG
...

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tlax88 11/18/2018 7:49pm
11/18/2018 7:49pm
I think Eliot was down there with Mitch Ropelato, he could just be borrowing his bike...
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shreda 11/19/2018 12:03am
11/19/2018 12:03am
steveperry wrote:
So, Nino is now not tagging Scott on IG ... [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2018/11/18/6972/s1200_2A1F8711_42C6_461E_9432_6CB373BE1077.jpg[/img]
So, Nino is now not tagging Scott on IG
...

Has he ever mentioned Scott in his bio...???
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bikertom 11/19/2018 2:25am
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steveperry wrote:
So, Nino is now not tagging Scott on IG ... [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2018/11/18/6972/s1200_2A1F8711_42C6_461E_9432_6CB373BE1077.jpg[/img]
So, Nino is now not tagging Scott on IG
...

Check his posts, all bike related are tagged '#scootsram' even the last video from yesterday. (It doesn't mean anything though I know nothing about his contract.)

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RobMil 11/19/2018 5:25am
11/19/2018 5:25am
Adam Brayton on Oakley...
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Maxipedia 11/19/2018 10:17am
11/19/2018 10:17am
Hah, just the photo I was about to write about!

Brayton on Oakley more than likely means he's off Scott, because it seems that certain sponsorship deals come in packages. I remember when Brendan switched to Scott Bicycles he was a Smith Optics rider and I was sure he was going to keep that long-running collaboration, but they put them on their optics team too. Even if Brayton wasn't on the Scott factory team, he definitely received some support from them and probably the goggles came in that package too. This pic can mean that he indeed switches frames, so the Nukeproof rumour is closer to reality.
baronKanon 11/19/2018 10:20am
11/19/2018 10:20am
Thought Brayton was on Hope and whatever frame he likes, which Hope gets for him.
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Maxipedia 11/19/2018 10:33am
11/19/2018 10:33am
baronKanon wrote:
Thought Brayton was on Hope and whatever frame he likes, which Hope gets for him.
I don't believe it's as simple as that, like a kid with a super wealthy parent walking into a candy shop: ”So what do you wish for, love?!” It's too fairy-tale like.

I believe it's more probable that they have excellent ties in the industry (duh!) and they work together looking for support, as things never fall from the sky. They probably receive certain offers, get to test ride bikes and the keep the best balanced package. Say, for instance, Trek offers two frames per year, an enduro bike and a road bike and Specialized offers the same plus tires, but he doesn't like the Demo so much, so they go with Trek even if the other deal included tires. This is just speculation, of course, I can't possibly know what the exact relatioship on the Brayton - Scott axis via Hope was... But we're here for this kind of talk, right? Smile

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metadave 11/19/2018 10:48am
11/19/2018 10:48am
Yeah, Brayton always seemed to have a semi-gwin like deal with his sponsors, picking what packages he liked best with Hope covering the rest. Sounds like a great program for a racer.
dylanemdasilva 11/19/2018 1:04pm
11/19/2018 1:04pm
Broken_spoke.photo wrote:
Max "MaxZilla" Beaupre, the East coast enduro star, has been hinting things on his insta for a few days now. I wonder if we will see...
Max "MaxZilla" Beaupre, the East coast enduro star, has been hinting things on his insta for a few days now. I wonder if we will see him on a factory or a co caftory team this next year?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqWOOxsFSQE/
Tbh, there's so many fast Canadian kids right now but so few going factory. I think it's easier for Americans to get picked up than Canadians
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metadave 11/19/2018 1:10pm
11/19/2018 1:10pm
Broken_spoke.photo wrote:
Max "MaxZilla" Beaupre, the East coast enduro star, has been hinting things on his insta for a few days now. I wonder if we will see...
Max "MaxZilla" Beaupre, the East coast enduro star, has been hinting things on his insta for a few days now. I wonder if we will see him on a factory or a co caftory team this next year?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqWOOxsFSQE/
dylanemdasilva wrote:
Tbh, there's so many fast Canadian kids right now but so few going factory. I think it's easier for Americans to get picked up than Canadians
Which seems strange to me given that you can pay a Canadian $25000 CAD and it only cost like 20 bucks USD
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