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chriskief Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 1:11pm
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WhatsUpCountry Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
7/18/2025 9:05am Propane & propane accessories? I've got you covered. Peggy rides on the downtube because she's a dirty girl
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 8:41am Therw as one of the bigger mail order companies that had an in house bike brand and the rumors were that they would order bikes with the cheapest steel frames they could buy but set-up with top shelf parts.. When the bikes got here, they stripped the bikes and tossed the frames.. A former employer of mine would buy a good amount of closeout bikes, and when it came down to some sizes that didn't sell, they would strip the bikes and sell all the parts at a deep discount.. I never did a breakdown, but he probably made more...
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TEAMROBOT Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 8:39am I think the primary compensation mechanism for tech bro execs is when they get to imitate Steve Jobs walking around a visually minimal stage design in jeans talking about a powerpoint: https://www.forbes.com/sites/billroberson/2025/03/31/rivians-micromobil…
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Dave_Camp Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 8:39am I’m no expert but that looks like a thin margin… 2m profit off of 70m sales on your best year ever??
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 8:38am The purchase price of a product in no way reflects the margin to the manufacturer, especially in times like this. While @Dave_Camp has inside knowledge from the engineering side, I have the same sort of insights from the finance side. I can tell you with high amounts of confidence a lot of the pricing we are (still) seeing is not sustainable When your margins don't support your baseline cost to run your company + cost of capital, you will end up in bankruptcy. The only question is when, which is based on how strong your balance sheet is and how...
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Dave_Camp Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 8:37am I promise you- a SuperDeluxe Ultimate costs a lot more than $79 USD/Euro to make... That was my product line for a long time- I have been to the factory and suppliers where they come from.
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kperras Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 8:35am Most bike brands have been at the mercy of the big 3(ish*) for a few years now. Their orders are exponentially larger than the rest of the brands, and thus, due to whatever internal pressures they might be facing, drive the pricing we see today. YT is/was a disruptor, but they are still collateral damage as far as I can see. *major players differ by market
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Maxipedia Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 8:35am I find it very ironical and super hypocritical for somebody like the YT main guy to whine about ”discount wars”, when they basically were the ones who brought this aggressive pricing strategy to the market. Dude, are you for real??? I honestly hope everybody will be OK after this, but I can't remember all the direct-to-consumer brands being too sympathetic towards the bike shops who, at the end of the day, stay at the core of our sport. And the problem is that people really believe that they are entitled to that discounted ”high end bike” with top parts, even...
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TheSuspensionLabNZ Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 6:28am I hate to make funny of a crappy situataion for everyone at YT but I had to LOL at the "severely impacted by the global discounting battle in the bike industry" line - they were literally one of the first and most aggressive brands to offer high spec bikes at crazy prices. So its no surprise they are now one of the first of those to be struggling
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sethimus Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
7/18/2025 6:27am that guy? https://christophorus.porsche.com/en/2025/414/markus-flossmann.html what makes you think he cashed out? he looks like a modest living guy
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haydnw Liked a forum topic Listening to gaps between World Cup DH finishers
7/15/2025 9:38am I've been playing around with listening to the gaps between the top 10 finishers at World Cup DH races. The aim is to make them a bit more concrete and understandable than the usual big list of numbers that typically makes up a results sheet. You can see/hear the resulting tool here: https://www.sounds-like-dh.co.uk Grateful for any thoughts!
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monarchmason Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
7/13/2025 8:31pm
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mickey Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
7/10/2025 12:14pm Hopefully they learned from the gen6 EX that a carbon drivestay chainstay can’t be 7mm thick in profile just to clear a chainring. I’m on my 3rd chainstay at this point.
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
7/10/2025 12:12pm Make the seattube more than 76°, do not infringe the patent and do not have a stupidly slack seat tube. Win win.
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mntnmrtn Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
7/10/2025 8:19am Knolly wanted to sue Intense for less than this a few years ago, apparently they patented the seat tube-downtube intersection at a specific angle... we'll see what they do with this one 😬 "This patent describes a rear suspension system with at least four inches of travel and a seat tube that can accommodate a dropper seat post with at...
sspomer Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
7/10/2025 8:14am
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sspomer Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
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TEAMROBOT Liked a reply to forum topic Tire chat (nerds only)
7/9/2025 7:01am Yes, I agree that we're hearing a lot of different perspectives on the same tire. If I can expand on what I said earlier, I think it's actually a combination of what others have said. As a rear tire, I get a lot of squirm and fold from the Conti DH casing is I don't run extra pressure, about 3-5 psi more than I would on a Maxxis DH casing. But as a front tire, it feels wooden and transmits a lot more trail feedback compared to a Maxxis. It still managed to grip fine, I never had sketchy moments...
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snowsnakes Liked a reply to forum topic Tire chat (nerds only)
7/9/2025 7:01am Having lots of fun playing with tires now that I can can vary from my race setup. On the Sentinel, I’ve swapped from the Conti DH (agree with @TEAMROBOT that they feel kinda wooden in the front) to Radial Albert 2.6 US front and Albert 2.5 soft in the rear. They seem to roll faster, grip better, and add a coil-like feel to the bike that I wasn’t entirely expecting when hitting square edges or root balls. So far, my only gripe is that the 2.6 Albert doesn’t come in Trail casing. The Gravity version is probably unnecessary for me...
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