Liked a comment on the item The New Eminent Onset 29er - Does the Bite Match the Bark? 8/20/2019 10:37 AM

The first bending mode for a beam (aka that shock plus strut) is to bend in the middle of a beam. The middle is the worst possible location to put a joint/fastener. Don’t do that!! These strut designs need to get shutdown before everyone realizes their shock and mounting...more

Liked a comment on the item The New Eminent Onset 29er - Does the Bite Match the Bark? 8/20/2019 10:37 AM

That bolt between the shock and linkage is the right place for a problem. A slightly bend will increase friction on the seals of the shock, and on harder cases, break something, a bolt on the upper or lower placement of the shock. Wouldn't swing my leg over this.

Added a comment to grizzatom's bike check 3/22/2019 9:54 PM

Damn, that's an insane huck to flat! I agree that the forces these bikes see are wild at times and I won't argue with your experience. Even the best simulation software out there can't account for all the force scenarios we throw at these things.
I will update once I put more miles on this thing. Hope I don't find any glaring flaws with this whole hair-brained idea. Thanks for your input and get that Size L built up!

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Added a comment to grizzatom's bike check 3/22/2019 2:34 PM

The metal on metal contact is pretty unlikely. Upon bottoming out the shock and even before that, most of the frame pieces start to strain laterally/torsionally more than toward the seatpost (which is why most bikes that use yokes on their shocks tend to thrash shock seals by increasing the leverage on the shock body and then side-loading them while everything is flexing. Pole finally figured it out, but that's another story!!).

Something would likely have to break to get that kind of deformation, which can always happen. I should clarify that I do not speak for Norco in any way and I'm doing all of this at my own risk. I do feel that the risk is calculated however, and if anyone is going to try this it might as well be me! Based off my setups on other frames, I have worked with much tighter clearances than 5mm on top out, bottom out, and laterally with no bad experiences...yet!

The main reason to add a bit of stroke for me personally is to get this bike to sit a bit lower at the pedals. I'm coming off a longer travel bike with a rock-scraping BB height. I don't miss the travel but I do want a similar body position at sag. I feel like the rear suspension on the Fluid bottoms out a little high. When pushed hard into corners or steeps I want to get my center of gravity as low as I can for max control. With the long stroke I bottom out lower relative to the ground and I have more room to play around with my dynamic (at-sag) BB height. This bike is very well designed and is a blast to ride in its stock form, this is all just my $.02.

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Added a comment to grizzatom's bike check 3/22/2019 8:35 AM

I've taken all the measurements and cycled the suspension thoroughly. I also modeled the kinematics and found no adverse effects. There is clearance for a 7.5 x 2.0 (190mm x 51mm) shock with no tire/bridge interference. The seatstay bridge comes to about 5mm from the seat tube with the long stroke. I'm sure Norco doesn't encourage this, and I can't say it won't affect your warranty but I'll be running the long shock for just a touch over 130mm in the rear. I rarely leave anything stock on my bikes and I've ended up with some fun rigs!

Also, you can fit a piggyback shock on at least the L and XL frames.

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Added a comment to grizzatom's bike check 3/20/2019 2:17 PM

Thanks! I have to admit that your review of this bike is what inspired me to give it a go. I definitely don't regret it.

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