Dumb Bike Problems

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6/26/2026 10:48am
I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had...

I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had them on lock anyways…. So I keep pulling and thrusting and ripping my shoulders apart all the time. Like trails, uphills , rough stuff , speed slow, cruising with the kids on connectors-  just really diligently practicing like a proper mt bike trail rider should always do. 
It’s coming along too. 
I have that poppy at speed shit , but now I’m starting to really get comfortable with the amount of body English and effort and the timing of the longer stays. I can get it up ! And keep it up ! A bit… 


Hopped back on my dirt jumper for a quick rip to the corner store and pretty much pulled the bars to the moon And damned near looped out  my head on the sidewalk . 

bkent136 wrote:

Every post you make is about XXL bikes and/or wanting 525 reach. it's exhausting. You're 6'4". Relax.

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6/26/2026 12:57pm
I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had...

I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had them on lock anyways…. So I keep pulling and thrusting and ripping my shoulders apart all the time. Like trails, uphills , rough stuff , speed slow, cruising with the kids on connectors-  just really diligently practicing like a proper mt bike trail rider should always do. 
It’s coming along too. 
I have that poppy at speed shit , but now I’m starting to really get comfortable with the amount of body English and effort and the timing of the longer stays. I can get it up ! And keep it up ! A bit… 


Hopped back on my dirt jumper for a quick rip to the corner store and pretty much pulled the bars to the moon And damned near looped out  my head on the sidewalk . 

bkent136 wrote:

Every post you make is about XXL bikes and/or wanting 525 reach. it's exhausting. You're 6'4". Relax.

It’s much easier to relax now that my bikes fit 

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6/26/2026 1:01pm
I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had...

I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had them on lock anyways…. So I keep pulling and thrusting and ripping my shoulders apart all the time. Like trails, uphills , rough stuff , speed slow, cruising with the kids on connectors-  just really diligently practicing like a proper mt bike trail rider should always do. 
It’s coming along too. 
I have that poppy at speed shit , but now I’m starting to really get comfortable with the amount of body English and effort and the timing of the longer stays. I can get it up ! And keep it up ! A bit… 


Hopped back on my dirt jumper for a quick rip to the corner store and pretty much pulled the bars to the moon And damned near looped out  my head on the sidewalk . 

bkent136 wrote:

Every post you make is about XXL bikes and/or wanting 525 reach. it's exhausting. You're 6'4". Relax.

And technically I posted about gearbox emoto’s too.

Sometimes I like to trigger e-bikers by calling them dirt bikes. 
And yeah. Those are both “DUMB BIKE PROBLEMS” like fit and hub pawls and the occasional flat tire  

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6/26/2026 1:09pm
I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had...

I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had them on lock anyways…. So I keep pulling and thrusting and ripping my shoulders apart all the time. Like trails, uphills , rough stuff , speed slow, cruising with the kids on connectors-  just really diligently practicing like a proper mt bike trail rider should always do. 
It’s coming along too. 
I have that poppy at speed shit , but now I’m starting to really get comfortable with the amount of body English and effort and the timing of the longer stays. I can get it up ! And keep it up ! A bit… 


Hopped back on my dirt jumper for a quick rip to the corner store and pretty much pulled the bars to the moon And damned near looped out  my head on the sidewalk . 

bkent136 wrote:

Every post you make is about XXL bikes and/or wanting 525 reach. it's exhausting. You're 6'4". Relax.

I’ve also got a +4 ape index, 36 inch inseam, masssssifff quads and chiseled jawline. All of which brings me to the most annoying dumb bike problem of all time. You ever hit your knees on the bars of a mountain bike while your trying to win a tech climbing contest with some local legend you shouldn’t even be riding with? 535 reach was a godsend for that. And with stacks still XC low, being able to still benefit from the reach in with a high rise bar was a double win. 

I love riding mitosis bikes hard. I’m a big guy. And big guys had bike fit issues for years. I’m bad a manuals - I thought this was a funny place to put my dumb bike problem . It was funny. To me. Maybe the other 3 mountain bikers with big legs and nice jawlines 

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6/26/2026 3:18pm
I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had...

I have been working really really diligently to not blame the long rear center on my spire XXL for my shit Manuals. I never really had them on lock anyways…. So I keep pulling and thrusting and ripping my shoulders apart all the time. Like trails, uphills , rough stuff , speed slow, cruising with the kids on connectors-  just really diligently practicing like a proper mt bike trail rider should always do. 
It’s coming along too. 
I have that poppy at speed shit , but now I’m starting to really get comfortable with the amount of body English and effort and the timing of the longer stays. I can get it up ! And keep it up ! A bit… 


Hopped back on my dirt jumper for a quick rip to the corner store and pretty much pulled the bars to the moon And damned near looped out  my head on the sidewalk . 

bkent136 wrote:

Every post you make is about XXL bikes and/or wanting 525 reach. it's exhausting. You're 6'4". Relax.

I’ve also got a +4 ape index, 36 inch inseam, masssssifff quads and chiseled jawline. All of which brings me to the most annoying dumb bike...

I’ve also got a +4 ape index, 36 inch inseam, masssssifff quads and chiseled jawline. All of which brings me to the most annoying dumb bike problem of all time. You ever hit your knees on the bars of a mountain bike while your trying to win a tech climbing contest with some local legend you shouldn’t even be riding with? 535 reach was a godsend for that. And with stacks still XC low, being able to still benefit from the reach in with a high rise bar was a double win. 

I love riding mitosis bikes hard. I’m a big guy. And big guys had bike fit issues for years. I’m bad a manuals - I thought this was a funny place to put my dumb bike problem . It was funny. To me. Maybe the other 3 mountain bikers with big legs and nice jawlines 

I don't have big legs or a nice jawline, but I have absolutely filleted myself after looping out on hard dirt using clipon pedals and trying to manual. I wasn't getting anywhere with it, so I threw down hard on one occasion and voila! Instant loopout. Dude, that still hurts.

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6/28/2026 6:17am
Years ago, after most car manufacturers abandoned the pop up or rolldown window on the rear of SUV's, I got a RakAttach swing arm.  There were...

Years ago, after most car manufacturers abandoned the pop up or rolldown window on the rear of SUV's, I got a RakAttach swing arm.  There were two huge and unanticipated bonuses.  First, it positioned the bike rack far enough from SUV that I could lift the hatch without lowering or swinging away the rack, which was amazing.  Second, I loosen an arm of the rack and pump tires, etc. with the bike in the rack.  Bolt checks and the like are also with the bike in the rack.  And I put the bike in the rack as soon I get back to the car.

I recently broke down and bought a truck, because I wasn't interested in the few SUV's left that aren't glorified station wagons.  With the truck, I'm going to try running a single tray unless I'm taking a trip.  The single tray disappears under the tailgate when it's down, and I can get quick access to the back via the tonneau cover.  The added length of the swingarm on the back of the truck sucks in parking garages, especially the one I park in every day at work.  

Here's the dumb part: I'm going to lean the bike against the truck, sit on the tailgate, and the bike is going to fall over.  I know myself well enough to know that I'm going to forget and do it on a somewhat regular basis. I've got a couple of the scorpion style bike stands and I could throw one in the truck, but I'll probably get in a hurry and not use it.  Plus, it won't do me any good the days I'm on the ebike.  I've also looked at other types of stands, but I'm a little suspect of something like the Feedback Sports RAAK stand in a gravel or dirt parking lot, and it would be uber dorky to pull one out every single ride.

I'm trying to come up with something simple and very quick that would hold the bike well enough against the truck that a little jostling from sitting on the tailgate wouldn't knock it over and I could air up tires, check suspension pressure, etc. without having to be uber careful.  Current though is one-half of a magnetic paper towel holder with some heavy modifications.  Keep it just inside the tailgate stuck on the wall of the bed and then move it down the outer edge of the bumper to hold the rear tire.  Picture below.

Anybody got any tricks or ideas?

 

FIRST4MAGNETS 2-Piece Magnetic Paper Towel Holder | Strong Magnetic Paper Towel Holder for Kitchen, Garage, or Workshop - Convenient for Quick Access to Towels

https://www.gravitygrabber.com/products/grab-bar

A past shop buddy of mine designed this one. 

Thanks for the tip.  

I've got a OneUp hitch rack, but I bought the trays that can fit on crossbars and the parts to make them into a hitch rack.  That means I have T-slots on the bottom of the trays.  I've figured out I can use a some thick bungee cord and a ball and receiver (like those often used for sun shades and tarps) to quickly secure and unsecure my rear wheel when I lean it against the rack.  With my tailgate down, it puts the bike in a really convenient position for pumping tires, checking suspension pressure, etc.  And I can bounce on the tailgate without the bike falling over.  

Been travelling a bunch and still fine tuning the details.  Will try to remember to post some pictures when I get it finalized.

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6/28/2026 7:46am
Thanks for the tip.  I've got a OneUp hitch rack, but I bought the trays that can fit on crossbars and the parts to make them...

Thanks for the tip.  

I've got a OneUp hitch rack, but I bought the trays that can fit on crossbars and the parts to make them into a hitch rack.  That means I have T-slots on the bottom of the trays.  I've figured out I can use a some thick bungee cord and a ball and receiver (like those often used for sun shades and tarps) to quickly secure and unsecure my rear wheel when I lean it against the rack.  With my tailgate down, it puts the bike in a really convenient position for pumping tires, checking suspension pressure, etc.  And I can bounce on the tailgate without the bike falling over.  

Been travelling a bunch and still fine tuning the details.  Will try to remember to post some pictures when I get it finalized.

Hey! Enough of that! That post is clearly meant to be in the Clever Bike Solutions thread. This is Dumb Bike Problems.

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6/28/2026 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 6/28/2026 1:27pm

Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH this afternoon. 

IMG 7591 0.jpeg?VersionId=6x8PT

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Poleczechy wrote:
Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH...

Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH this afternoon. 

IMG 7591 0.jpeg?VersionId=6x8PT

Also works for threaded BBs

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Poleczechy wrote:
Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH...

Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH this afternoon. 

IMG 7591 0.jpeg?VersionId=6x8PT

Some do and some don’t, the important thing is knowing which one you’re working with 😉

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Poleczechy wrote:
Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH...

Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH this afternoon. 

IMG 7591 0.jpeg?VersionId=6x8PT

Dogboy wrote:

Some do and some don’t, the important thing is knowing which one you’re working with 😉

Two-way torque wrenches are usually so expensive that if it's two-way, it's because that's the reason you bought it!

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Poleczechy wrote:
Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH...

Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH this afternoon. 

IMG 7591 0.jpeg?VersionId=6x8PT

Dogboy wrote:

Some do and some don’t, the important thing is knowing which one you’re working with 😉

boozed wrote:

Two-way torque wrenches are usually so expensive that if it's two-way, it's because that's the reason you bought it!

That's generally very fair, but the larger Pedro's torque wrench has a drive tang that pushes through the head, so the increased cost to have it work both directions is very minimal.  I bought one a few years ago, and it was nice to stop guessing (or at least get a feel for the right amount of torque) for things above 20Nm.

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Pushing the square drive through is an easy way yeah. Another solution is to go digital. Those are essentially solid state and also work both ways. 

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Poleczechy wrote:
Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH...

Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH this afternoon. 

IMG 7591 0.jpeg?VersionId=6x8PT

The torque spec for that is pretty simple.  about 30% tighter then what sram says, and tight af.  Even tighter if it's a transmission derailleur instead of the udh... otherwise you'll find that bolt loose after a while.

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Years ago, after most car manufacturers abandoned the pop up or rolldown window on the rear of SUV's, I got a RakAttach swing arm.  There were...

Years ago, after most car manufacturers abandoned the pop up or rolldown window on the rear of SUV's, I got a RakAttach swing arm.  There were two huge and unanticipated bonuses.  First, it positioned the bike rack far enough from SUV that I could lift the hatch without lowering or swinging away the rack, which was amazing.  Second, I loosen an arm of the rack and pump tires, etc. with the bike in the rack.  Bolt checks and the like are also with the bike in the rack.  And I put the bike in the rack as soon I get back to the car.

I recently broke down and bought a truck, because I wasn't interested in the few SUV's left that aren't glorified station wagons.  With the truck, I'm going to try running a single tray unless I'm taking a trip.  The single tray disappears under the tailgate when it's down, and I can get quick access to the back via the tonneau cover.  The added length of the swingarm on the back of the truck sucks in parking garages, especially the one I park in every day at work.  

Here's the dumb part: I'm going to lean the bike against the truck, sit on the tailgate, and the bike is going to fall over.  I know myself well enough to know that I'm going to forget and do it on a somewhat regular basis. I've got a couple of the scorpion style bike stands and I could throw one in the truck, but I'll probably get in a hurry and not use it.  Plus, it won't do me any good the days I'm on the ebike.  I've also looked at other types of stands, but I'm a little suspect of something like the Feedback Sports RAAK stand in a gravel or dirt parking lot, and it would be uber dorky to pull one out every single ride.

I'm trying to come up with something simple and very quick that would hold the bike well enough against the truck that a little jostling from sitting on the tailgate wouldn't knock it over and I could air up tires, check suspension pressure, etc. without having to be uber careful.  Current though is one-half of a magnetic paper towel holder with some heavy modifications.  Keep it just inside the tailgate stuck on the wall of the bed and then move it down the outer edge of the bumper to hold the rear tire.  Picture below.

Anybody got any tricks or ideas?

 

FIRST4MAGNETS 2-Piece Magnetic Paper Towel Holder | Strong Magnetic Paper Towel Holder for Kitchen, Garage, or Workshop - Convenient for Quick Access to Towels

https://www.gravitygrabber.com/products/grab-bar

A past shop buddy of mine designed this one. 

Thanks for the tip.  I've got a OneUp hitch rack, but I bought the trays that can fit on crossbars and the parts to make them...

Thanks for the tip.  

I've got a OneUp hitch rack, but I bought the trays that can fit on crossbars and the parts to make them into a hitch rack.  That means I have T-slots on the bottom of the trays.  I've figured out I can use a some thick bungee cord and a ball and receiver (like those often used for sun shades and tarps) to quickly secure and unsecure my rear wheel when I lean it against the rack.  With my tailgate down, it puts the bike in a really convenient position for pumping tires, checking suspension pressure, etc.  And I can bounce on the tailgate without the bike falling over.  

Been travelling a bunch and still fine tuning the details.  Will try to remember to post some pictures when I get it finalized.

That magnetic thing is cool in theory, but now most trucks are aluminum so it will only work in like half the vehicles out there.  I just jamb my rear tire between the truck tire and the wheel arch/fender and it seems to hold the bike just fine.  I also have a oneup with a rakattach, so before/after rides i just put the bike into the bike rack and swing it out and sit in the tailgate.  I will admit that when I'm not in my truck with this setup, i feel a bit lost on what to do with the bike.  

Which brings up this thought I have had from time to time... bicycles, most convenient thing ever when you're riding it... least convenient thing ever when it's just sitting there, not being ridden.  

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21 hours ago
Poleczechy wrote:
Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH...

Thanks to this thread I have learned that torque wrenches don’t work anti-clockwise… but I was able to find a workaround when installing a new UDH this afternoon. 

IMG 7591 0.jpeg?VersionId=6x8PT

ebruner wrote:
The torque spec for that is pretty simple.  about 30% tighter then what sram says, and tight af.  Even tighter if it's a transmission derailleur instead...

The torque spec for that is pretty simple.  about 30% tighter then what sram says, and tight af.  Even tighter if it's a transmission derailleur instead of the udh... otherwise you'll find that bolt loose after a while.

To fully bring this back to dumb bike problems, I've had the chinesium UDH that came on my eMTB snap even though I was using a torque wrench.  If it's a NSB, WMFG, or nice in-house (e.g., SC) hanger fully made of metal, then I agree.  If it's not and you're not getting ready to sell the bike, I'd recommend ponying up for one of the first two so you're not back in here posting about how you were up until 2:00 the night before a trip with a dremel desperately trying to get the broken hanger out and install your spare.

Finally, I can't help but remind everyone, as an excuse to revel in the absurdity of it, that there is more than one kind of "universal" derailleur hanger, and the standard one won't be universal for you if you have a bike with certain types of suspension.

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