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Matt891 wrote:

2026 still a go but no Lake Placid 2027 or future (?)

 

https://www.adirondackexplorer.org/communities/government/state-pauses-…

sspomer wrote:
Quote from article."After spending more than $860,000 to put on three days of mountain bike races in the fall of 2025, the authority brought in less...

Quote from article.

"After spending more than $860,000 to put on three days of mountain bike races in the fall of 2025, the authority brought in less than $300,000 in revenue from ticket sales and parking from the downhill and cross-country cycling competitions, records show.

The baseline costs for hosting the UCI event required ORDA to make payments of $420,000 to $500,000 a year for the rights to put on the races."

fartsack wrote:
How organizers still approach elite sports events as standalone products instead of marketing assets still blows my mind.In most cases, a World Cup weekend will never...

How organizers still approach elite sports events as standalone products instead of marketing assets still blows my mind.

In most cases, a World Cup weekend will never generate positive revenue if you only look at the direct cashflow during the event itself.

The picture changes once you factor in media coverage, long term tourism, bike sales, brand image, destination marketing and overall communication value. A World Cup should be part of a bigger strategy and not treated as a one weekend business case.

If a region has no long term MTB vision, no plans to grow the scene, infrastructure or tourism around it, then organizing a World Cup honestly makes little sense. Events of that scale should primarily be budgeted as marketing and communication investments, not as profit generating standalone events.

MTB tourism for a hill that doesn’t allow MTB. 

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Svenson McButtcrack 6/10/2026 7:11am
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casey79 wrote:
I think it's pretty short sighted to judge a World Cup MTB event purely on whether it turns a profit over the race weekend.Very few major...

I think it's pretty short sighted to judge a World Cup MTB event purely on whether it turns a profit over the race weekend.

Very few major sporting events pay for themselves through ticket sales alone. The real value is the tourism, media exposure and long term positioning of the destination.

In the case of the Whiteface event, the article notes that ORDA spent around US$860,000 while recovering less than US$300,000 directly through ticket sales and parking. It also notes that the event generated an estimated regional economic impact of around US$11 million in 2025. ORDA itself lost money, but the wider region benefited from visitors staying in hotels, eating at restaurants and spending at local businesses.

If thousands of visitors are filling hotels, eating at restaurants, shopping locally and then returning for future holidays because they discovered the trail network, that's a huge win for the region, even if the organiser runs the event at a loss.

The bigger issue is that the organiser often carries most of the cost while everyone else benefits financially. Local businesses see increased turnover, accommodation fills up and the destination gains international exposure, yet the event itself can still lose money.

If a resort only expects a direct financial return over a single weekend, it probably misses the bigger picture. These events should be viewed as long term tourism and marketing investments. The question shouldn't be "Did ticket sales cover the cost?" It should be "Did this event increase visitation and strengthen the destination over the next five years?"

That's a much better measure of success in my opinion.

Must be nice being able to take account for Money which is not yours...

The Venue lost 500k in one year over three days and, was asked to reinvest in order to publicize such the rain-making windfall...  

There also was the rouge-tactic made use of in order to clear out annoying trees.  

Again, good job. 

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casey79 wrote:
I think it's pretty short sighted to judge a World Cup MTB event purely on whether it turns a profit over the race weekend.Very few major...

I think it's pretty short sighted to judge a World Cup MTB event purely on whether it turns a profit over the race weekend.

Very few major sporting events pay for themselves through ticket sales alone. The real value is the tourism, media exposure and long term positioning of the destination.

In the case of the Whiteface event, the article notes that ORDA spent around US$860,000 while recovering less than US$300,000 directly through ticket sales and parking. It also notes that the event generated an estimated regional economic impact of around US$11 million in 2025. ORDA itself lost money, but the wider region benefited from visitors staying in hotels, eating at restaurants and spending at local businesses.

If thousands of visitors are filling hotels, eating at restaurants, shopping locally and then returning for future holidays because they discovered the trail network, that's a huge win for the region, even if the organiser runs the event at a loss.

The bigger issue is that the organiser often carries most of the cost while everyone else benefits financially. Local businesses see increased turnover, accommodation fills up and the destination gains international exposure, yet the event itself can still lose money.

If a resort only expects a direct financial return over a single weekend, it probably misses the bigger picture. These events should be viewed as long term tourism and marketing investments. The question shouldn't be "Did ticket sales cover the cost?" It should be "Did this event increase visitation and strengthen the destination over the next five years?"

That's a much better measure of success in my opinion.

Svenson McButtcrack wrote:
Must be nice being able to take account for Money which is not yours...The Venue lost 500k in one year over three days and, was asked...

Must be nice being able to take account for Money which is not yours...

The Venue lost 500k in one year over three days and, was asked to reinvest in order to publicize such the rain-making windfall...  

There also was the rouge-tactic made use of in order to clear out annoying trees.  

Again, good job. 

This is why European venues have the upper hand through local government subsidising tourism projects. Nobody knew about Loudenvielle 15 years ago, then they put the gondola linking the pretty village by the lake to the ski resort up above and developed a trail network mainly below the snow line. This takes years and a sustained effort to make destinations tourist honeypots.

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sspomer wrote:
Quote from article."After spending more than $860,000 to put on three days of mountain bike races in the fall of 2025, the authority brought in less...

Quote from article.

"After spending more than $860,000 to put on three days of mountain bike races in the fall of 2025, the authority brought in less than $300,000 in revenue from ticket sales and parking from the downhill and cross-country cycling competitions, records show.

The baseline costs for hosting the UCI event required ORDA to make payments of $420,000 to $500,000 a year for the rights to put on the races."

fartsack wrote:
How organizers still approach elite sports events as standalone products instead of marketing assets still blows my mind.In most cases, a World Cup weekend will never...

How organizers still approach elite sports events as standalone products instead of marketing assets still blows my mind.

In most cases, a World Cup weekend will never generate positive revenue if you only look at the direct cashflow during the event itself.

The picture changes once you factor in media coverage, long term tourism, bike sales, brand image, destination marketing and overall communication value. A World Cup should be part of a bigger strategy and not treated as a one weekend business case.

If a region has no long term MTB vision, no plans to grow the scene, infrastructure or tourism around it, then organizing a World Cup honestly makes little sense. Events of that scale should primarily be budgeted as marketing and communication investments, not as profit generating standalone events.

dwhere wrote:

MTB tourism for a hill that doesn’t allow MTB. 

It's so frustrating that they aren't interested in opening the bike park again. Lots of new trail networks are popping up in upstate NY so the interest in mtb is there, seems like re-establishing the bike park would be a no brainer

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Brian_Peterson 6/10/2026 8:38am
6/10/2026 8:38am

Remember, more often than not, the tourist board should also be helping cover some of the expenses in regards to the event.. If you show that they will benefit to the tune of millions, they are usually willing to help..

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BGoldstone 6/10/2026 9:10am
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Brian_Peterson wrote:
Remember, more often than not, the tourist board should also be helping cover some of the expenses in regards to the event.. If you show that...

Remember, more often than not, the tourist board should also be helping cover some of the expenses in regards to the event.. If you show that they will benefit to the tune of millions, they are usually willing to help..

Just don’t say the actual tourist board name on air or the knives will be out

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fartsack wrote:
How organizers still approach elite sports events as standalone products instead of marketing assets still blows my mind.In most cases, a World Cup weekend will never...

How organizers still approach elite sports events as standalone products instead of marketing assets still blows my mind.

In most cases, a World Cup weekend will never generate positive revenue if you only look at the direct cashflow during the event itself.

The picture changes once you factor in media coverage, long term tourism, bike sales, brand image, destination marketing and overall communication value. A World Cup should be part of a bigger strategy and not treated as a one weekend business case.

If a region has no long term MTB vision, no plans to grow the scene, infrastructure or tourism around it, then organizing a World Cup honestly makes little sense. Events of that scale should primarily be budgeted as marketing and communication investments, not as profit generating standalone events.

dwhere wrote:

MTB tourism for a hill that doesn’t allow MTB. 

cegg wrote:
It's so frustrating that they aren't interested in opening the bike park again. Lots of new trail networks are popping up in upstate NY so the...

It's so frustrating that they aren't interested in opening the bike park again. Lots of new trail networks are popping up in upstate NY so the interest in mtb is there, seems like re-establishing the bike park would be a no brainer

I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park trails would be completely off limits.  
Unfortunate, because I have to drive 4+ hrs to the nearest bike park.  

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roost66 wrote:
I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park...

I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park trails would be completely off limits.  
Unfortunate, because I have to drive 4+ hrs to the nearest bike park.  

"..cutting a few trees" instead put in the proper context of fully dropping at least 32 trees is something else, entirely.  Estimated Fines, not including replacement and not including restoration, may be at a min. $50k per removed tree.  

So.  A discrepancy of more than 1000%.  

Was Missy Giove really caught w/ .35g of ditchweed and not 350g of the shit??  Keep pretend your frame storage is holding snowboard wax.  

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roost66 wrote:
I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park...

I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park trails would be completely off limits.  
Unfortunate, because I have to drive 4+ hrs to the nearest bike park.  

Sneakerhead Dentistry wrote:
"..cutting a few trees" instead put in the proper context of fully dropping at least 32 trees is something else, entirely.  Estimated Fines, not including replacement...

"..cutting a few trees" instead put in the proper context of fully dropping at least 32 trees is something else, entirely.  Estimated Fines, not including replacement and not including restoration, may be at a min. $50k per removed tree.  

So.  A discrepancy of more than 1000%.  

Was Missy Giove really caught w/ .35g of ditchweed and not 350g of the shit??  Keep pretend your frame storage is holding snowboard wax.  

Whiteface is a large resort, and I’m pretty sure all the oils and waxes from winter sports every winter does a lot more damage then cutting 32 trees.  I just can’t understand how a tree is worth 50k, just because it is on state land.  Next you are in placid or the near area, look how many massive houses are being built, clearing at least an acre of land of trees just a house that will only be used for maybe 2 months out of the year, but I guess it’s on private property, so it doesn’t matter.   

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roost66 wrote:
Whiteface is a large resort, and I’m pretty sure all the oils and waxes from winter sports every winter does a lot more damage then cutting...

Whiteface is a large resort, and I’m pretty sure all the oils and waxes from winter sports every winter does a lot more damage then cutting 32 trees.  I just can’t understand how a tree is worth 50k, just because it is on state land.  Next you are in placid or the near area, look how many massive houses are being built, clearing at least an acre of land of trees just a house that will only be used for maybe 2 months out of the year, but I guess it’s on private property, so it doesn’t matter.   

Don't forget to add how noone pulls permits in Upstate NY.  

...ever.

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Matt891 wrote:

2026 still a go but no Lake Placid 2027 or future (?)

 

https://www.adirondackexplorer.org/communities/government/state-pauses-…

sspomer wrote:
Quote from article."After spending more than $860,000 to put on three days of mountain bike races in the fall of 2025, the authority brought in less...

Quote from article.

"After spending more than $860,000 to put on three days of mountain bike races in the fall of 2025, the authority brought in less than $300,000 in revenue from ticket sales and parking from the downhill and cross-country cycling competitions, records show.

The baseline costs for hosting the UCI event required ORDA to make payments of $420,000 to $500,000 a year for the rights to put on the races."

casey79 wrote:
I think it's pretty short sighted to judge a World Cup MTB event purely on whether it turns a profit over the race weekend.Very few major...

I think it's pretty short sighted to judge a World Cup MTB event purely on whether it turns a profit over the race weekend.

Very few major sporting events pay for themselves through ticket sales alone. The real value is the tourism, media exposure and long term positioning of the destination.

In the case of the Whiteface event, the article notes that ORDA spent around US$860,000 while recovering less than US$300,000 directly through ticket sales and parking. It also notes that the event generated an estimated regional economic impact of around US$11 million in 2025. ORDA itself lost money, but the wider region benefited from visitors staying in hotels, eating at restaurants and spending at local businesses.

If thousands of visitors are filling hotels, eating at restaurants, shopping locally and then returning for future holidays because they discovered the trail network, that's a huge win for the region, even if the organiser runs the event at a loss.

The bigger issue is that the organiser often carries most of the cost while everyone else benefits financially. Local businesses see increased turnover, accommodation fills up and the destination gains international exposure, yet the event itself can still lose money.

If a resort only expects a direct financial return over a single weekend, it probably misses the bigger picture. These events should be viewed as long term tourism and marketing investments. The question shouldn't be "Did ticket sales cover the cost?" It should be "Did this event increase visitation and strengthen the destination over the next five years?"

That's a much better measure of success in my opinion.

Your assessment, though others will find flaw in it, does typically proof out to the residents, the tourism board & the resort owners themselves.
It would seem the folks putting on the event simply don't want to.
So they'll disregard the benefits of the event to move on to hosting things they are more familiar with.

@DHDPromo  was a driving force up there behind it tasting the fruits of a bike park build out. He probably could expound on why they gave up so easily on the long term.  

I'd be more interested in knowing what driving forces were behind being able to wake up the sleeping giant there for 2 years after Dan busted his butt for years trying to move the needle.

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roost66 wrote:
I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park...

I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park trails would be completely off limits.  
Unfortunate, because I have to drive 4+ hrs to the nearest bike park.  

Sneakerhead Dentistry wrote:
"..cutting a few trees" instead put in the proper context of fully dropping at least 32 trees is something else, entirely.  Estimated Fines, not including replacement...

"..cutting a few trees" instead put in the proper context of fully dropping at least 32 trees is something else, entirely.  Estimated Fines, not including replacement and not including restoration, may be at a min. $50k per removed tree.  

So.  A discrepancy of more than 1000%.  

Was Missy Giove really caught w/ .35g of ditchweed and not 350g of the shit??  Keep pretend your frame storage is holding snowboard wax.  

roost66 wrote:
Whiteface is a large resort, and I’m pretty sure all the oils and waxes from winter sports every winter does a lot more damage then cutting...

Whiteface is a large resort, and I’m pretty sure all the oils and waxes from winter sports every winter does a lot more damage then cutting 32 trees.  I just can’t understand how a tree is worth 50k, just because it is on state land.  Next you are in placid or the near area, look how many massive houses are being built, clearing at least an acre of land of trees just a house that will only be used for maybe 2 months out of the year, but I guess it’s on private property, so it doesn’t matter.   

the ski runs must be natural occurring fields…..

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https://www.instagram.com/stories/prodownhillseries/3916654144964466133?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MXdvMXFsZ3p1OXpseQ==

https://www.prodownhillseries.com/event-info/fox-us-open?fbclid=PAZXh0b…

I'll eat my words, it looks like the US Open is at deer valley this year

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Eae903 wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/prodownhillseries/3916654144964466133?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MXdvMXFsZ3p1OXpseQ==

https://www.prodownhillseries.com/event-info/fox-us-open?fbclid=PAZXh0b…

I'll eat my words, it looks like the US Open is at deer valley this year

I too am blown away that a $300/day elite ski resort wants to host us dirtbags again. I hope it's on the old NCS track. One of the coolest and most varied race tracks I've ever seen.

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https://www.instagram.com/stories/prodownhillseries/3916654144964466133?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MXdvMXFsZ3p1OXpseQ==

https://www.prodownhillseries.com/event-info/fox-us-open?fbclid=PAZXh0b…

I'll eat my words, it looks like the US Open is at deer valley this year

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I too am blown away that a $300/day elite ski resort wants to host us dirtbags again. I hope it's on the old NCS track. One...

I too am blown away that a $300/day elite ski resort wants to host us dirtbags again. I hope it's on the old NCS track. One of the coolest and most varied race tracks I've ever seen.

Elite and boring, I've skiied there once and it was honestly rough. There's way better skiing at almost every other resort in Utah. From the Instagram story, it looks like it was NCS, they showed the trail marker for it anyways

 

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‘THE SUMMIT’ LAUNCHED AS FIRST-EVER UCI MOUNTAIN BIKE WORLD CUP TEAM TROPHY

A Team Trophy will be awarded at the end of the season to the top-performing team in each WHOOP UCI Mountain Bike World Series format.

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11 June 2026 – Warner Bros. Discovery (WBD) Sports is pleased to announce the introduction of a new Team Trophy, named The Summit, which will be awarded to the best WHOOP UCI Mountain Bike World Series Team of the season in cross-country, downhill and enduro. For the first time in UCI Mountain Bike World Cup history, teams will be formally recognised with a dedicated trophy, underlining their role as the driving force behind performance, progression and results. The Summit looks to reward excellence demonstrated across an entire season, earned by teams operating as one through collaboration, innovation and consistently high-level execution.

The team standings for each format are established at every round of the UCI World Cup, with riders registered to a WHOOP UCI Mountain Bike World Series Team or UCI Mountain Bike Team contributing points based on their performance. Across downhill, enduro and cross-country, rankings are calculated by combining the points of a team’s four highest-scoring riders across both Men’s and Women’s fields, and across Elite and Under 23/Junior categories. For cross-country, standings are based on the combined results from the cross-country Short Track (XCC) and cross-country Olympic (XCO) races.

Throughout the season, points from each round are accumulated to determine the overall team classification, with The Summit awarded to the team that finishes with the highest total points in each respective format.

In 2025, the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) and WBD Sports introduced significant updates to the UCI Regulations - reshaping the sport’s landscape, raising professional standards across the series, and connecting elite teams with broader global audiences. As part of this evolution, The Summit sits at the heart of WBD Sports’ wider strategy to elevate the sport’s leading teams, delivering consistent, high-quality visibility. Its introduction places greater emphasis on the collective nature of performance, while unlocking new opportunities to raise coverage and engagement for teams and their respective brands beyond individual athlete results.

The Summit has been officially unveiled today, Thursday 11th June, at the season’s first quadruple-header in Saalfelden Leogang – Salzburgerland (Austria). Crafted from sustainable oak and recycled materials sourced from the cycling industry (aluminum, acrylic, stainless steel and recycled carbon fibre), the trophy embodies the same philosophy that drives the world’s top teams: progress without waste, performance with purpose, and a relentless pursuit of excellence. Its defining feature, the carbon globe at the top, carries the same prestige as the Overall UCI World Cup trophy (The Globe), bringing teams and riders together under a shared symbol of ambition and global competition.

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The trophy for the winning enduro team will be presented at the last UCI Enduro World Cup round in Morillon, Haute-Savoie (France) whilst trophies for the winning cross-country and downhill teams will be awarded in Lake Placid Olympic Sites, New York (USA), at their final 2026 WHOOP UCI Mountain Bike World Series event.

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roost66 wrote:
I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park...

I’m pretty sure after they built the world cup track, and received heavy backlash from some environmentalists for cutting a few trees, building multiple bike park trails would be completely off limits.  
Unfortunate, because I have to drive 4+ hrs to the nearest bike park.  

Sneakerhead Dentistry wrote:
"..cutting a few trees" instead put in the proper context of fully dropping at least 32 trees is something else, entirely.  Estimated Fines, not including replacement...

"..cutting a few trees" instead put in the proper context of fully dropping at least 32 trees is something else, entirely.  Estimated Fines, not including replacement and not including restoration, may be at a min. $50k per removed tree.  

So.  A discrepancy of more than 1000%.  

Was Missy Giove really caught w/ .35g of ditchweed and not 350g of the shit??  Keep pretend your frame storage is holding snowboard wax.  

I probably put 35 trees through my fire place every winter

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Anyone know why Brosnan isn’t releasing race weekend vlogs anymore? That was my go to for a good mix of track, bike setup, race day prep, and behind the scenes. Good production too. Curious if I’m missing YT videos for the Canyon team from another account?

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roost66 wrote:
Whiteface is a large resort, and I’m pretty sure all the oils and waxes from winter sports every winter does a lot more damage then cutting...

Whiteface is a large resort, and I’m pretty sure all the oils and waxes from winter sports every winter does a lot more damage then cutting 32 trees.  I just can’t understand how a tree is worth 50k, just because it is on state land.  Next you are in placid or the near area, look how many massive houses are being built, clearing at least an acre of land of trees just a house that will only be used for maybe 2 months out of the year, but I guess it’s on private property, so it doesn’t matter.   

Fines are not (wholly) based on the monetary value of whatever was interfered with; they are intended to be a deterrent

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Ugh, wbd is smoking crack again.  Team overalls are pretty ancient.  Sunn-Chippie/Sunn-UNN used to battle Volvo Cannondale for the team trophy during the Clinton administration.   It was a lot more meaningful then too, because it combined all the disciplines… 

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Ugh, wbd is smoking crack again.  Team overalls are pretty ancient.  Sunn-Chippie/Sunn-UNN used to battle Volvo Cannondale for the team trophy during the Clinton administration.  ...

Ugh, wbd is smoking crack again.  Team overalls are pretty ancient.  Sunn-Chippie/Sunn-UNN used to battle Volvo Cannondale for the team trophy during the Clinton administration.   It was a lot more meaningful then too, because it combined all the disciplines… 

What they should do instead of another trophy is MONEY, give them MONEY!!! Riders and teams

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Eae903 wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/stories/prodownhillseries/3916654144964466133?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MXdvMXFsZ3p1OXpseQ==

https://www.prodownhillseries.com/event-info/fox-us-open?fbclid=PAZXh0b…

I'll eat my words, it looks like the US Open is at deer valley this year

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I too am blown away that a $300/day elite ski resort wants to host us dirtbags again. I hope it's on the old NCS track. One...

I too am blown away that a $300/day elite ski resort wants to host us dirtbags again. I hope it's on the old NCS track. One of the coolest and most varied race tracks I've ever seen.

I'll never forget the "brand new" track. Barney Rubble was massive jagged rocks. By day two, we'd cracked it into rubble.
Spin Cycle infuriated me day one. Just WHACK the opposite bank of a 45 degree gully. 180 & whack the other side of the ditch. 
Day 2, it was pure berm to berm slapping silt.  

I did wind up suspended upside down hanging down the ditch clipped in when a long root was loosened from the soil & captured me like something alive. Course marshall sitting there just stared and said "Haven't seen that before."
Had to beg him to free me. 😁

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I'll never forget the "brand new" track. Barney Rubble was massive jagged rocks. By day two, we'd cracked it into rubble.Spin Cycle infuriated me day one...

I'll never forget the "brand new" track. Barney Rubble was massive jagged rocks. By day two, we'd cracked it into rubble.
Spin Cycle infuriated me day one. Just WHACK the opposite bank of a 45 degree gully. 180 & whack the other side of the ditch. 
Day 2, it was pure berm to berm slapping silt.  

I did wind up suspended upside down hanging down the ditch clipped in when a long root was loosened from the soil & captured me like something alive. Course marshall sitting there just stared and said "Haven't seen that before."
Had to beg him to free me. 😁

I had that happen at a Sea Otter DH one year. I rag dolled through the gully/g-out and some dude just said "No one else crashed there." No offer of help.

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Brian_Peterson 43 minutes ago
43 minutes ago

Top 5 in Q2 for both men and women has some heavy hitters in there...

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