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Not rude at all. Maybe some could be a touch tighter. I’ve only ridden the wheel a handful of times and none are significantly loose.
Possibly. What make/model of wheel is it and are the spokes laced 2 cross or 3 cross? A lot of deep carbon wheels need to be laced 2 cross so they aren't entering the rim at a sharp angle, but this causes more increase in tension when pedaling which makes them more prone to creaking. A wider spaced super boost hub might cause a similar thing since the spokes are further from a straight tangential line between the hub and rim
Alu dt xm 1700. Two cross. They have been quiet since I cleaned them and used wax chain lube.
On another note, I’d avoid Galfer wave rotors, at least the 1.8mm thick ones. They reverberate like crazy and amplify every noise. From the pads hitting them on off angle landings to singing like wine glasses if you have a touch of pad rub. If you flick them, they hum for at least three times longer than shimano Ice rotors that almost have a damp thud to them.
Sorry for the thread revival but I thought this might be a good place to pose an interesting question. I am considering a new wheel set and contemplating either I9 Hydra2 hubs or Onyx Classics. For those who have ridden Onyx before, obviously the hub itself is quiet, but does the overall ride get perceptibly noisier since there is no hub noise masking minor noises at all?
I've never owned an onyx hub but I have met/worked on bikes for many people who now chase endless noises from their bike.....
Also personally not a fan of Onyx designs anyway....there are much better hubs out there that can be pretty quite if thats what you want
Nope.
what hubs do you prefer?
Personally, have two sets of Onyx hubs(trail bike and dh bike) and have an absurd amount of ride time on both. absolutely love them! great company to deal with as well. I will be a repeat customer for sure.
I share just as my experience but I do genuinely ask as I am always interested in.... well just about everything haha so Id love to hear what's up in the hub department!
I have been a big fan of I9 hubs lately since I think they sound cool and I like the high engagement especially since they are relatively light weight. I know many people have issues with bearing wear, driver rings, pawl deformation, etc, but I am light and they seem to have great durability for me personally.
Mainly considering Onyx since there is a pair of wheels with them at a great price, and I think they would be a really good fit for my Evil Offering, heard pretty much nothing but praise for them so could definitely be swayed to try them out.
I had a couple I9 Hydra wheel sets, went Onyx on my next couple and will be picking up a third next year, maybe for my birthday for my DJ bike.
I9 hubs are beautiful, light and feel great, but I prefer silence and as the grease breaks down and/or dries out, they get loud. Bigger issue is they are just built too light. I cracked a drive ring on one hub, had it spinning in the shell of another. I9 was good on warranty, but including stems I've gone to them for warranty four times...that's too much.
My Onyx hubs are beautiful, silent, flawless..only downside is heavy, but so am I. One pair I run on a fat bike packing bike, so they see slop and heavy loads, the other I run on my single speed Stooge klunkduro bike. That rear hub gets absolutely pounded on, and 3500 miles, 2.5 years, and a bunch of races later with basically no maintenance...still flawless.
Love em. The silence makes talking to riding buddies or my kids easy, allows me to enjoy the woods, and does tune me in to other sources of noise.
As someone who chases noises on their bike, and with a friend who has the same bike with onyx vesper hubs, I can tell you they are sweet and you don’t chase other noises any differently. Because you hear all those noises anyways.
He’s broken it twice though and he’s 170lbs.
I'm a long time fan of Chris King now, they just go forever...Hope and DT for lower price points and maybe I'm stuck in my ways but I've felt the same for about 15 years LOL. To be fair on Onyx I'm sure they have revised their hubs but a few years ago the axle design meant it was a case of when, not if the NDS end would break next to the bearing which was a pretty major oversight IMO, plus the bearings never seemed to last very well and I will take robustness, durability and reliable engagement over a quiet hub every time
Not to derail your question, but on the topic of silent hubs, I could not move away from my Newmen wheels with Fade hubs... a bit of their grease every now and again and you cannot hear them, not on trails nor when you're trying to leave the house at 7am and don't want to wake up the kids.
Does it make me chase the other noises more? Nothing could stop me from it
I can comment on the inverse to your question. I put a Hydra wheelset on my ebike and the loud buzzing hub is the only noise I notice while riding now.
Lower chain slap is causing a loud clang as the chain bounces back on the chainring. Solutions?:
DH stfu chain damper: on the underside a la Goldstone. Do they clear a 12 speed? Will I go through a bunch of them?
MRP SXG: maybe with some foam on the lower guide. Do these actually quiet the chain? It makes sense that it would kind of.
Lower chain tensioner: ideally not this for pedalling efficiency. I couldn’t get an MRP MXg to fit my Firebird. I think it was because of chainstay height. Doubtful it would fit a Rallon. What does something like this do to my T-Type set up?
Speaking of which, the xx1 t type clutch doesn’t seem very strong. I’m used to shimano though. Last Sram clutch I had stopped working after a few weeks. This doesn’t seem to be peoples experience with T type.
Vid of chain slap. Volume on for obv noise.
Transmission is garbage. Aside from that I started using wet lube again and the chain is a lot quieter. Damp damping ftw.
STFU works well. Madrone Jab has an excellent clutch that you can fine tune to your liking.
Since having two kids my bike has never been so consistently quiet. Silent, even.
I hope you start getting ride time back soon. The first couple of years was close to 100% night riding for me.
I will echo this, STFU combined with the Jab derailleur is the best combo I have found for reducing chain slap.
I've been getting bar/stem clicking under load. It's not the stem face or clamp bolts as Those have been greased. Anyone use assembly paste on the stem and bar interface to quiet down clicking? Recommendations for Alu bar to Alu Stem?
Most products I see are for alu to carbon for grip but I'm just looking to lubricate the interface.
I use sticky grease (Motorex Bike - the neon green stuff) for seatpost-saddle rails and seat post shims to seatpost, something like that could work. Universal Cycles stocks it. As a bonus, it comes in a little plastic jar with a brush inside the lid. Their white grease is great for keeping headsets quiet.
Checked your CSU? That's the usual suspect assuming you're on a single crown.
Please don't use grease on your stem/bar interface or over-torque it. Assembly paste is fine, but something else is going on. Make sure nothing is cracked, check frame at all welds, stem face, bar. Could also be headset or even a crunchy/seized bearing. Noises are fun time.
What brand bar & stem? have all the bolts also been tightened to their listed torque, in the correct order?
It's RaceFace Atlas bar and stem. I've gone through a few sets over the years and they all had a slight tick when really wrenching on the bars. I have the bolts greased with Motorex green and torqued properly.
I saw a clip discussing the merits of assembly paste to stop similar clamp interface clicking on carbon to carbon bar/stem and wondered if this could help my situation.
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