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nsp234
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4/30/2024 7:11am
Wow, I thought they would have made a bigger change. Looks like linkage and maybe thinner top tube. Could be changes in carbon layup. Interested to...

Wow, I thought they would have made a bigger change. Looks like linkage and maybe thinner top tube. Could be changes in carbon layup. Interested to see how Valli does on that bike!

They wanted to, but from what I've heard a large part of R&D resources went into the development of the bike diaper...

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4/30/2024 7:40am
It’s a one off front end made by Adam Prosise out of Colorado. Replicated geo and kinematics from Session R2 in 25% leverage ratio. I really...

It’s a one off front end made by Adam Prosise out of Colorado. Replicated geo and kinematics from Session R2 in 25% leverage ratio.

I really like the Session platform but thought the frame was much too rigid compared to the Supreme V5 (which has the most fore/aft compliance I’ve ever felt in a frame and softest lateral rear end). So I wanted to see how the kinematic would feel on a more compliant chassis. 
 

Overall for my style of riding, speed and track type it’s been working great! It takes the edge off the feeling of sharp bumps and square edge hits. Much less feedback to the rider’s hands and feet.

That steel magic, eh? 


Neko seems to have implied that his steel front triangles were too complaint for a dual crown fork, but then again hes racing WCs

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4/30/2024 9:16am

New fork just came in today well ahead of release, time to do some testing…

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Big Bird
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4/30/2024 9:47am
That steel magic, eh?  Neko seems to have implied that his steel front triangles were too complaint for a dual crown fork, but then again hes...

That steel magic, eh? 


Neko seems to have implied that his steel front triangles were too complaint for a dual crown fork, but then again hes racing WCs

I keep saying that 13/4" .049 worked great for me, but tradition says that they have to be skinnier.

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kperras
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4/30/2024 10:21am

Dang you got #25! 

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4/30/2024 10:26am

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

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4/30/2024 10:33am
That steel magic, eh?  Neko seems to have implied that his steel front triangles were too complaint for a dual crown fork, but then again hes...

That steel magic, eh? 


Neko seems to have implied that his steel front triangles were too complaint for a dual crown fork, but then again hes racing WCs

Big Bird wrote:

I keep saying that 13/4" .049 worked great for me, but tradition says that they have to be skinnier.

Yeah I could totally understand the first Frameworks steel being laterally too soft at speeds of Neko and Asa.  I believe they will have a new version that is stiffer to test.  This frame has a large downtube than normal, also double butted tubing. 

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4/30/2024 10:37am
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

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4/30/2024 11:22am
slimshady wrote:

If that patent gets awarded someone must burn the patent office to the ground.

I am not familiar with patent filing, why would the patent being awarded to them be a bad thing? Limitation in development at other companies?

4/30/2024 11:35am

I am not familiar with patent filing, why would the patent being awarded to them be a bad thing? Limitation in development at other companies?

Patents have become a joke. Apple literally patented a "rectangle with rounded corners" and then sued Samsung for over a billion dollars. Also, remember when Knolly tried to sue Intense because the seat tube intersects the downtube at a reasonable angle, and even claimed that Intense engineers "examined" Knolly bikes to steal this tech (Knolly's patent is so absurd that 90% of all mountain bikes from all companies "violate" it)

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4/30/2024 11:55am
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Here we go again.....

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dknapton
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4/30/2024 12:02pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Here we go again.....

Here we go again.....

I always thought the 05 boxxer world Cup was one of the best looking forks with the chrome stanchions. 

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PellyNH
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4/30/2024 12:06pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Here we go again.....

Here we go again.....

Getting DVO Emerald vibes from the green ones... LOL

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4/30/2024 12:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 12:33pm
New fork just came in today well ahead of release, time to do some testing…

New fork just came in today well ahead of release, time to do some testing…

Raaaaaaaddd. I hear podium gold is at least 15% faster. 

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Glory831Guy
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4/30/2024 1:02pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Well I guess that disproves my tinfoil hat theory that the factory Rockshox riders were running DLC coated stanchions.

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Simcik
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4/30/2024 1:04pm
Losifer wrote:

I believe this is the CBF3 that Chris has talked about for a while, and I think you're right about it being a pending patent.

 

Just posted by Chris, think he saw us chatting about it?!

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4/30/2024 1:29pm

A chrome finish, while they look cool, pretty much have to be on steel stanchions. I had a domain in 2010, with those steel & chrome stanchions, and it wasn't that much heavier than the alternative for 180mm single crown, and even shared the same damping as the lower model Totem (the alternative). I beat the crap out of those lowers, but the steel stanchions could take a solid hit without even a scratch. I wonder if its possible to do steel stanchions, but somehow lighter, now that its been a decade. 

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4/30/2024 1:33pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

I thought she has been testing a high pivot Tues

monarchmason
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4/30/2024 1:47pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

I wonder if we will get graphics back on stanchions. Id like to see that more. Especially for riders who are winning on their products, seeing graphic designs inspired by them on the stanchion. Totally not exactly innovation/tech, but cool stuff none the less. 

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jazza_wil
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4/30/2024 1:53pm

Can you post photo?

dknapton wrote:

Wow, I thought they would have made a bigger change. Looks like linkage and maybe thinner top tube. Could be changes in carbon layup. Interested to...

Wow, I thought they would have made a bigger change. Looks like linkage and maybe thinner top tube. Could be changes in carbon layup. Interested to see how Valli does on that bike!

Maybe some adjustment in the link, and integrated bumpers 

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4/30/2024 3:17pm

Man in 2008 I lusted after the Mongoose Khyber. 

4/30/2024 6:18pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 6:19pm
 

Something seems a little different about this one...

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4/30/2024 6:19pm
piroloco wrote:

Has anyone else seen this fork before? Getting some BOS suspension vibes from the stickers. 

It’s on the RST website

AKA Really Shitty Technology

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4/30/2024 7:17pm
  Something seems a little different about this one...
 

Something seems a little different about this one...

 

Looks like the regular Stumpy Evo to me

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nato
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4/30/2024 9:02pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 9:03pm

Charlie Murray did a bike check the other day and is on the current Stumpjumper Evo again for the upcoming season, albeit a speckled yellow frame.

Edited to add link: https://youtu.be/FK3Lj9z2fnc?si=42Eec67aS3XsQhFF

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