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7/26/2023 10:51am
Evil96 wrote:
 New Carbon rims from i9!

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 New Carbon rims from i9!

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

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7/26/2023 1:31pm
Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A...

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which is appealing to me...

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7/26/2023 2:41pm
Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A...

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

dolface wrote:
Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which...

Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which is appealing to me...

These use their proprietary spoke and hub design, so no.

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7/26/2023 4:31pm Edited Date/Time 7/26/2023 4:32pm

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Sid release tomorrow??? Rockshox Instagram had this on their story plus a similar post to what they did with the Boxxer. 

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7/27/2023 6:36am
Primoz wrote:
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-customer-complaints-302783 There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true...

https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-…

There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true for the time being... 

For folks who might not be familiar w/ the whole saga: https://escapecollective.com/the-superstrata-is-not-a-good-bike/

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7/27/2023 8:36am
Primoz wrote:
https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-customer-complaints-302783 There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true...

https://road.cc/content/tech-news/superstrata-manufacturing-stops-amid-…

There was talk about the tech support being aimed at mountain bikes too, but looks like it was a bit too good to be true for the time being... 

dolface wrote:

For folks who might not be familiar w/ the whole saga: https://escapecollective.com/the-superstrata-is-not-a-good-bike/

Didn't Revel make their DH bike using Arevo's tech? I'm not sure if they licensed the method or had Arevo make the parts but the machine looks the same: https://revelbikes.com/product/rodeo/

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7/27/2023 10:36am
Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A...

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

dolface wrote:
Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which...

Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which is appealing to me...

Faction rim is listed as 425g,

I9 rims (TR 300) listed as 406/427g

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7/27/2023 10:46am
Onawalk wrote:

Faction rim is listed as 425g,

I9 rims (TR 300) listed as 406/427g

UL is 378g which is pretty light for a 30mm rim (and I weigh 60kg Laughing​​​​​​​)​​

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7/27/2023 11:36am

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Any info on these burgtec grips on Ratboys bike from hardline? Sig grip? 

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7/27/2023 12:57pm
Onawalk wrote:

Faction rim is listed as 425g,

I9 rims (TR 300) listed as 406/427g

dolface wrote:
UL is 378g which is pretty light for a 30mm rim (and I weigh 60kg ​​​​​​​)​​

UL is 378g which is pretty light for a 30mm rim (and I weigh 60kg Laughing​​​​​​​)​​

Revive, 345 grams, same inner rim width

7/27/2023 10:54pm
Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A...

Good to see they're still working with WAO for the rims, rather than venture out on their own and end up with something inferior. There's A LOT of established confidence in WAO.  

dolface wrote:
Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which...

Anyone know/care to speculate if they will offer a rim-only option? Been eying the WR1 Factions but the i9 rims are quite a but lighter which is appealing to me...

These use their proprietary spoke and hub design, so no.

Proprietary spoke design? What about nipples? 

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7/27/2023 11:35pm

I9 has aluminium spokes that have the nipple 'built-in' - the spoke flares out to essentially make the nipple and it threads into the hub.

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7/28/2023 12:06am

These use their proprietary spoke and hub design, so no.

the old torchs are bombproff, and the spokes are super sturdy compared to conventional spokes.. hard to destroy.. so, the train of the inmortal I9 hubs passed a few years ago when they introduced the fancier hydras

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7/28/2023 4:34am Edited Date/Time 7/28/2023 4:35am
Primoz wrote:

I9 has aluminium spokes that have the nipple 'built-in' - the spoke flares out to essentially make the nipple and it threads into the hub.

But is a standard nipple compatible with I9 rims, if you have a hub from another brand that’s using standard spokes?

7/28/2023 5:58am

These use their proprietary spoke and hub design, so no.

luisgutrod wrote:
the old torchs are bombproff, and the spokes are super sturdy compared to conventional spokes.. hard to destroy.. so, the train of the inmortal I9 hubs...

the old torchs are bombproff, and the spokes are super sturdy compared to conventional spokes.. hard to destroy.. so, the train of the inmortal I9 hubs passed a few years ago when they introduced the fancier hydras

they had some problems with the driveside bearings and axles breaking though, far from the best hubs

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7/28/2023 6:03am

These use their proprietary spoke and hub design, so no.

luisgutrod wrote:
the old torchs are bombproff, and the spokes are super sturdy compared to conventional spokes.. hard to destroy.. so, the train of the inmortal I9 hubs...

the old torchs are bombproff, and the spokes are super sturdy compared to conventional spokes.. hard to destroy.. so, the train of the inmortal I9 hubs passed a few years ago when they introduced the fancier hydras

they had some problems with the driveside bearings and axles breaking though, far from the best hubs

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7/28/2023 7:33am
Primoz wrote:

I9 has aluminium spokes that have the nipple 'built-in' - the spoke flares out to essentially make the nipple and it threads into the hub.

But is a standard nipple compatible with I9 rims, if you have a hub from another brand that’s using standard spokes?

Certainly not by design, perhaps by some janky hack. They don’t sell them rim-only anyways and you may as well get WAO at that point. 

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7/28/2023 8:44am

These use their proprietary spoke and hub design, so no.

luisgutrod wrote:
the old torchs are bombproff, and the spokes are super sturdy compared to conventional spokes.. hard to destroy.. so, the train of the inmortal I9 hubs...

the old torchs are bombproff, and the spokes are super sturdy compared to conventional spokes.. hard to destroy.. so, the train of the inmortal I9 hubs passed a few years ago when they introduced the fancier hydras

Disagree on the spokes I had two spokes snap in a bike case while shipping flying with the bike. Only time I have had an issue was with I9 wheels. 

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7/28/2023 10:04am
Srams' UDH spec models include a cable stop on the "Full mount" Model. Does this mean mechanical Transmission? https://www.universalderailleurhanger.com/

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Srams' UDH spec models include a cable stop on the "Full mount" Model. Does this mean mechanical Transmission? https://www.universalderailleurhanger.com/

Sure looks like a cable stop. Great find. Couple more views. 

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7/28/2023 10:40am

SX Transmission here we come!

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7/28/2023 11:29am
TayRob wrote:

SX Transmission here we come!

SRAM is killing the high end componentry right now in terms of sales, but Shimano is winning in every cat XT and below.. SX Transmission is inevitable.

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7/28/2023 12:37pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2023 12:39pm
Srams' UDH spec models include a cable stop on the "Full mount" Model. Does this mean mechanical Transmission? https://www.universalderailleurhanger.com/

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Srams' UDH spec models include a cable stop on the "Full mount" Model. Does this mean mechanical Transmission? https://www.universalderailleurhanger.com/

kcy4130 wrote:
Sure looks like a cable stop. Great find. Couple more views. 

Sure looks like a cable stop. Great find. Couple more views. 

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Makes total sense. Every argument I've read saying why it needs to be electronic to work properly doesn't really make sense when there's potential to sell a lot and take advantage of the mounting. 

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