Remember speaking to a zerode athlete in October last year, he mentioned that zerode would be bringing back a dh bike but didn’t say anything about frame material or drivetrain system
That void behind the upper part of the shock looks like a prime area for a 6th bar to connect the rocker and chainstay/lower link...
the 6th bar goes outside the seat tube on the 160e, most likely to accommodate the dropper. DH bike doesn't need a dropper, so that wasn't a design constraint.
Whoa! There have to be some more links in that seat tube!! The chainstay probably isn't mounted directly to the frame, but via another short link...
Whoa! There have to be some more links in that seat tube!! The chainstay probably isn't mounted directly to the frame, but via another short link and there's a dogbone link to the top link!
It says Sixfinity on the website but where is it hiding? Looks like the rocker could potentially actually be a split pivot and it also looks...
It says Sixfinity on the website but where is it hiding? Looks like the rocker could potentially actually be a split pivot and it also looks like something hiding in the seat tube behind the shock area…
On high pivot design, you can get similar effect than switch infinity (or their 6 bar) by moving the pulley wheel instead of the main pivot.
This is possible since pulley don’t need to accept different diameters with fixed tooth count.
It’s not THAT high is it? Looks similar to a Norco Shore or GT DH bike. I suspect it’s a Horst link, can kinda see a...
It’s not THAT high is it? Looks similar to a Norco Shore or GT DH bike. I suspect it’s a Horst link, can kinda see a pivot on the chainstay?
What surprises me most is that Yeti would go with this design? They have their 6bar e-bike platform and their switch infinity designs, so why not stay with the brand identity instead of following the mainstream?
Probably because different suspension designs work best in different travel ranges.
Will new XO have alu/alloy cranks and cage? Not sure if those pictures have been here before.
Will new XO have alu/alloy cranks and cage? Not sure if those pictures have been here before.
Looks about right. 9 cogs machined out of steel, 2 steel (die cut?) ones pinned and then last alloy 52T pressed on. Too bad they went Shimano route with all the pinned sprockets because the current eagle cassettes with 11 machined cluster are the cleanest looking. The new cranks look really nice. 5dev vibes.
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear to be single piece, as currently. Should make for a cheaper to make (cheaper to buy?) and a lighter cassette. With less endurance though (but Shimano also has 3 Al rings on the XTR cassette, 2 on the XT, 1 on the SLX and 0 on Deore).
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear...
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear to be single piece, as currently. Should make for a cheaper to make (cheaper to buy?) and a lighter cassette. With less endurance though (but Shimano also has 3 Al rings on the XTR cassette, 2 on the XT, 1 on the SLX and 0 on Deore).
xtr cassette is made of cheese unfortunately. buddy of mine trashed his after 3 months and most shimano pro‘s are running the xt one because of unreliability.
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear...
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear to be single piece, as currently. Should make for a cheaper to make (cheaper to buy?) and a lighter cassette. With less endurance though (but Shimano also has 3 Al rings on the XTR cassette, 2 on the XT, 1 on the SLX and 0 on Deore).
xtr cassette is made of cheese unfortunately. buddy of mine trashed his after 3 months and most shimano pro‘s are running the xt one because of...
xtr cassette is made of cheese unfortunately. buddy of mine trashed his after 3 months and most shimano pro‘s are running the xt one because of unreliability.
Thank you so very much for that info as the cassette is the most "tempting" part of the drivetrain to upgrade a full XT build to considering the weight difference. That and the crankset, but the XTR crank is 2 piece glued and I think it's well known what happens with shimano 2 piece cranks 🙂
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear...
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear to be single piece, as currently. Should make for a cheaper to make (cheaper to buy?) and a lighter cassette. With less endurance though (but Shimano also has 3 Al rings on the XTR cassette, 2 on the XT, 1 on the SLX and 0 on Deore).
Those two rings on the XO have to be steel based on their appearance and the drivetrain hierarchy. Otherwise I don't see a way they would drop weight off their XX SL cassette which definitely uses 3 aluminum rings.
You might be right actually, yeah. But that would make for a chungus of a cassette weight wise while even the GX in current form uses an aluminium 50/52T chainring...
Well, shouldn't be long before everything is cleared up considering the rumors of the embargo lift.
Yeti always gets wild with their dh bike suspension, so i would expect something sorta novel on this one outside of just being a high pivot/idler...
Yeti always gets wild with their dh bike suspension, so i would expect something sorta novel on this one outside of just being a high pivot/idler. we'll see soon enough
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear...
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear to be single piece, as currently. Should make for a cheaper to make (cheaper to buy?) and a lighter cassette. With less endurance though (but Shimano also has 3 Al rings on the XTR cassette, 2 on the XT, 1 on the SLX and 0 on Deore).
xtr cassette is made of cheese unfortunately. buddy of mine trashed his after 3 months and most shimano pro‘s are running the xt one because of...
xtr cassette is made of cheese unfortunately. buddy of mine trashed his after 3 months and most shimano pro‘s are running the xt one because of unreliability.
Not sure where this comes from, I see XTR cassettes on tons of team bikes and I got over 2k miles on mine without issues and perfect shifting. Replaced with XT when it was time due to cost before I sold the bike.
Another company back in the dh game
zerode!
Their Instagram post has #pinion #gates
So gearbox belt drive dh bike?
Good to see them back in the game!
Remember speaking to a zerode athlete in October last year, he mentioned that zerode would be bringing back a dh bike but didn’t say anything about frame material or drivetrain system
if you go to wheelbased.com they have a article on yeti suspension designs.
they show something like the dh bike .
This one? https://wheelbased.com/2021/09/02/6-bar-suspension-linkage-with-drive-t…
yes.
the 6th bar goes outside the seat tube on the 160e, most likely to accommodate the dropper. DH bike doesn't need a dropper, so that wasn't a design constraint.
...does look nice though!!
On high pivot design, you can get similar effect than switch infinity (or their 6 bar) by moving the pulley wheel instead of the main pivot.
This is possible since pulley don’t need to accept different diameters with fixed tooth count.
On the topic of Zerode - 19.03. is the date!
Looks like horizontal shock, hp-Horst link without the excessively high pivot, the frame doesn’t look like a tank!
I would say still an "excessively" high pivot. There is a weird square jonction in front of the BB.
Probably because different suspension designs work best in different travel ranges.
Yeti high pivot sixfinity patent from September 2021:
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/32/ef/b9/62a62f10c7b773/WO2021174088A1.pdf
Will new XO have alu/alloy cranks and cage? Not sure if those pictures have been here before.
That bash guard on the chainring looks like it has the eagle logo on it?
Looks about right. 9 cogs machined out of steel, 2 steel (die cut?) ones pinned and then last alloy 52T pressed on. Too bad they went Shimano route with all the pinned sprockets because the current eagle cassettes with 11 machined cluster are the cleanest looking. The new cranks look really nice. 5dev vibes.
Looks like integrated chain guides on the chain ring itself.
Leaked press release says bashguard compatible, but no need for a chain guide.
Integrated bashguards*
@sprungmass I think the 52T is a spider/carrier, the two smaller aluminium rings are pressed/pinned onto it and the lower 9 gears still appear to be single piece, as currently. Should make for a cheaper to make (cheaper to buy?) and a lighter cassette. With less endurance though (but Shimano also has 3 Al rings on the XTR cassette, 2 on the XT, 1 on the SLX and 0 on Deore).
xtr cassette is made of cheese unfortunately. buddy of mine trashed his after 3 months and most shimano pro‘s are running the xt one because of unreliability.
Thank you so very much for that info as the cassette is the most "tempting" part of the drivetrain to upgrade a full XT build to considering the weight difference. That and the crankset, but the XTR crank is 2 piece glued and I think it's well known what happens with shimano 2 piece cranks 🙂
Those two rings on the XO have to be steel based on their appearance and the drivetrain hierarchy. Otherwise I don't see a way they would drop weight off their XX SL cassette which definitely uses 3 aluminum rings.
You might be right actually, yeah. But that would make for a chungus of a cassette weight wise while even the GX in current form uses an aluminium 50/52T chainring...
Well, shouldn't be long before everything is cleared up considering the rumors of the embargo lift.
Precisely!
The new bike is a looker, fookin 'ell
The new SRAM stuff looks rad, but also really heavy.
Also, in reality, with so many bikes go 'E', does anyone really need a 52T?
Anybody not riding an e-bike?
What makes you say it looks heavy?
maybe 1% of bikes on my local trails are e-bikes, so yeah, winch and plummet riding, 50/52 is great.
Most rides I dont see an ebike in the lot, or on the trails, I ride every other day.
yeah, one or two of us....
Not sure where this comes from, I see XTR cassettes on tons of team bikes and I got over 2k miles on mine without issues and perfect shifting. Replaced with XT when it was time due to cost before I sold the bike.