2023 TEAM RUMORS

1/12/2023 1:06pm
Primoz wrote:

One of the sponsors from the jersey, not all of them.

Yeeeees!!!!!
She's back with Starmotor!!!!!
*fist pump*

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1/12/2023 1:17pm
Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

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1/12/2023 1:29pm
DNE87 wrote:

Continental Atherton, Nukeproof? Can't see her going to Trek with the roster they already have, but possible. 

Edthorne wrote:
With that roster of sponsors, it'd have to be a new team, or her own program. Assuming RockShox Trek racing, and Trek Factory aren't changing a...

With that roster of sponsors, it'd have to be a new team, or her own program. Assuming RockShox Trek racing, and Trek Factory aren't changing a bunch of their sponsors/kit

Primoz wrote:

One of the sponsors from the jersey, not all of them.

Guess it pays to read the whole thing eh 

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1/12/2023 1:39pm

 

 

Sven Garcia an acronym of Craig evans, along with one of his latest posts and someone else mentioning seeing him on a prototype slacker, basically confirms Craig on airdrop

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1/12/2023 1:43pm

Iago Garay to Cannondale

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1/12/2023 1:51pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 1:52pm

long time lurker and reader of this my favourite thread!! Just watched Bernards latest LSD and he may or may not Wink have confirmed Jack Moir is on YT with a throw away comment about Jack being in Guildford in the UK which happens to have the UK's YT showroom

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1/12/2023 2:14pm

Rob Roskop on the PB podcast. Haven't listened yet but should be interesting!

For those who don’t want to listen.

 

looks like pon had no interest in renewing his contract which likely had some type of royalty clause.  He also seemed to be interested in pursuing innovations while pon is happy to milk the existing formula for all it’s worth (prob not a bad decision on their behalf tbh)

 

rob wouldn’t divulge details but it appears he is working on some new Emtb tech designed to be 40ish pounds but still be full power for 5-6 hrs.  Basically a full power e-bike somewhere i between the current lightweight and full size Emtb in weight.  Looks like possible collaboration with Unno but again rob was very shy to be detailed about anything.

 

seemed to think if all goes well we will be hearing about in a couple years.

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1/12/2023 2:18pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 2:19pm
Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

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1/12/2023 2:41pm
Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

What if Lapierre is getting back into DH?

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1/12/2023 2:49pm

Blenki, Frix and Estaque Lapierre team! the Video's they would put out would make me soil myself.

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1/12/2023 2:58pm

On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so I'm going to go with it.

My interpretation was different from @bulletbass man

It was interesting that he compared his contract with Pon/Santa Cruz Bicycles to his contract with Santa Cruz Skateboards.  Of course he should get money for a skateboard with his graphic/name on it.  But who here even knew he was still attached to the bike brand?  And in what capacity?  You sold your company, my man!  You already got paid!  Seems weird you would expect more out of it, or be surprised that they were moving on.  Especially when he talked so much about "moving on to the next thing" himself.

It was also interesting how they spoke about rejecting his innovation.  I wish he had been able to give an example or two, because it's not a given that they were good ideas.  Maybe he was in there suggesting they innovate a new e-gravel bike or something?  We only got one side of that story.

As for his new company, I know he talked about 40 pound full power e-bikes, but it didn't sound like that was what he was going to develop.  It felt like two separate subjects that he was talking about.

Either way, I didn't come away from that podcast feeling all that sorry for the man.

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1/12/2023 3:11pm
DirkT wrote:
On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so...

On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so I'm going to go with it.

My interpretation was different from @bulletbass man

It was interesting that he compared his contract with Pon/Santa Cruz Bicycles to his contract with Santa Cruz Skateboards.  Of course he should get money for a skateboard with his graphic/name on it.  But who here even knew he was still attached to the bike brand?  And in what capacity?  You sold your company, my man!  You already got paid!  Seems weird you would expect more out of it, or be surprised that they were moving on.  Especially when he talked so much about "moving on to the next thing" himself.

It was also interesting how they spoke about rejecting his innovation.  I wish he had been able to give an example or two, because it's not a given that they were good ideas.  Maybe he was in there suggesting they innovate a new e-gravel bike or something?  We only got one side of that story.

As for his new company, I know he talked about 40 pound full power e-bikes, but it didn't sound like that was what he was going to develop.  It felt like two separate subjects that he was talking about.

Either way, I didn't come away from that podcast feeling all that sorry for the man.

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

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1/12/2023 3:34pm
Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d...

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

So true.

a bit like when max commencal left Sunn. They lost all their coolness. Which has mow nicely been reborn with Commencal.

100% agree with the syndicate content. Cringe worthy.I Love the riders, they are awesome and super talented,  but these videos are not serving them well…  Crap job from the producing company.

 

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1/12/2023 3:44pm
Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

clem-mk wrote:

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

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1/12/2023 3:49pm
esporton wrote:

Iago Garay to Cannondale

Make sense to me w/ the Ella Conolly connection...

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1/12/2023 3:55pm
DirkT wrote:
On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so...

On the Roskopp podcast...not exactly Team Rumours, but one could argue he's talking about starting up a new "Team" in the form of a company, so I'm going to go with it.

My interpretation was different from @bulletbass man

It was interesting that he compared his contract with Pon/Santa Cruz Bicycles to his contract with Santa Cruz Skateboards.  Of course he should get money for a skateboard with his graphic/name on it.  But who here even knew he was still attached to the bike brand?  And in what capacity?  You sold your company, my man!  You already got paid!  Seems weird you would expect more out of it, or be surprised that they were moving on.  Especially when he talked so much about "moving on to the next thing" himself.

It was also interesting how they spoke about rejecting his innovation.  I wish he had been able to give an example or two, because it's not a given that they were good ideas.  Maybe he was in there suggesting they innovate a new e-gravel bike or something?  We only got one side of that story.

As for his new company, I know he talked about 40 pound full power e-bikes, but it didn't sound like that was what he was going to develop.  It felt like two separate subjects that he was talking about.

Either way, I didn't come away from that podcast feeling all that sorry for the man.

As someone whose fairly small company just got acquired by a big one, I can tell you that previous owners and leadership who were involved from day 1 have a very difficult time suddenly reporting to someone, especially a corporation.  They lose control that they probably didn't even consciously consider that they had before they sold out.

The obvious response is "what'd you expect...", but with all the corporate promises they were likely fed beforehand there'll pretty likely be some bitterness there.  If it's been 6 years, it's pretty impressive that it took this long.

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1/12/2023 4:27pm
Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d...

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

And with your Cannodale purchase you still get to give your money to that same ultra wealthy European family

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1/12/2023 5:51pm
Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d...

Roskop will always be inseparable from Santa Cruz for a certain generation of fan.  Him no longer associated with them makes them way less cool.  I’d rather a small portion of my money go to rob than all of it go to some ultra wealthy European family who’s sitting on money from colonizing the world.

my first really nice bike was a Santa Cruz.  I saved up a lot of money (especially for me at the time) to get it basically cause I was a syndicate fanboy.

id rather get a Cannondale these days.  Bikes are cooler and they got a lot of riders from rat to max that I want to follow.  Sure the syndicate is more talented than ever but i literally cannot be bothered to watch the content they are putting out.  Maybe robs value for the company is missed more than you realize and it will simply take a few product cycles for pons lack of innovation and vision to catch up with them.  They got a lot of market share to lose these days.


 

 

puddings wrote:

And with your Cannodale purchase you still get to give your money to that same ultra wealthy European family

Very true.  But I was mostly commenting on my change in perception in the brands over the last 5 years.

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1/12/2023 6:17pm
My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

clem-mk wrote:

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty...

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

Is Vali Holl not female?

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1/12/2023 6:22pm Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 6:24pm

“Jack Moir is in Guildford right now and I can’t say why” Bernard on his latest LSD. 
 

https://youtu.be/3M_bWyCmjto?t=408

YT Mill is right there. 

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1/12/2023 7:06pm
clem-mk wrote:

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty...

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

DNE87 wrote:

Is Vali Holl not female?

And Izabella is on Specialized 

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1/12/2023 7:42pm
clem-mk wrote:

My Guess too. Estaque and Frixtalon still on commencal, continental as co-title sponsor sounds good.

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty...

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

DNE87 wrote:

Is Vali Holl not female?

She's not on the factory team though

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1/12/2023 9:11pm

Spanish cat leaving arizona baseball, on to young talent

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1/12/2023 10:06pm

Check Jesse's IG. We got a shout out!

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1/12/2023 11:39pm
My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty...

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

FYI - Specialized Gravity is not a factory team owned or managed by Specialized the brand.  They are a private, French team managed by Laurent Delorme. If you want to see more female athletes on Specialized Gravity, let him know.

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1/13/2023 12:28am
My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty...

My guess would be Trek. She’s part of the gang in North Wales that includes Kade Edwards. Charlie Harrison retired leaving a gap and it’s pretty rubbish that one of the world biggest bike brands doesn’t have a female rider on its roster (also looking at you Specialized)

FYI - Specialized Gravity is not a factory team owned or managed by Specialized the brand.  They are a private, French team managed by Laurent Delorme...

FYI - Specialized Gravity is not a factory team owned or managed by Specialized the brand.  They are a private, French team managed by Laurent Delorme. If you want to see more female athletes on Specialized Gravity, let him know.

You’re right and it’s great that these brands have the depth and finances to support multiple or feeder teams. 
 

Anyway back to rumours. If that means Micayla Gatto is on YT, is she back racing world cups? 

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1/13/2023 12:53am
Karabuka wrote:
 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

Screenshot 20230112 211146 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=Ah4zgO

 Mille with some rare proper team rumors riddles 

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense.    Estaque, frix...

My guess would be that the commencal/100% team drops the 100%, keeps commencal and has a new title sponsor. Conti/commencal would make sense. 
 

Estaque, frix frix, and Mille. Maybe one other rider. Basically the same team as last year with a new title/co-title sponsor. Can’t see estaque and frixalton not being on commencal frames, and mille was with estaque training when she got hurt recently. Makes the most sense to me. 

They have changed title sponsor before multiple times. This seems to be a bigger shift, as they have posted about the team shitting down. I’d be surprised if they’d do that just for losing 100%. 

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1/13/2023 1:46am

Think this is the worst kept secret this year but, on the latest episode of the Bernard Kerr LSD, he lets slip Jack Moir is in Guilford, England.  

Screenshot 20230113 094042 Chrome.jpg?VersionId=5

 

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1/13/2023 2:03am
pinkrobe wrote:

Check Jesse's IG. We got a shout out!

Looks like Santa Cruz! :D

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Looking like just the 1 elite rider on Madison Saracen this year then with going big on the development team?

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