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AgrAde Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
5/6/2026 8:38pm
The light pull thing isn't a non-issue, it's just not an issue for everyone. Aside from avoiding a lot of arm pump with light pull levers, i also much prefer the feel and control, so i'd prefer to know what brakes are heavy to pull and what ones are light. Is that okay with you?
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amaranth Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
5/6/2026 8:35pm
Yes and no. The amount of brake torque applied to stop a rider from a given speed to a desired speed is not the same for different weights. We are going to massively simplify here and assume everyone rides the same on the same tires, rotors, pads etc.. In the graph below the 3 horizontal lines are a gross simplification representation of the torque needed to slow a rider of that weight down. The 3 lines represent 3 styles of brakes - the black line needs a very heavy initial pull but ramps extremely quick ; the red line needs...
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Russell_Crowe Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
3/23/2025 5:25pm
Interesting review from Dale Stone on Hope T4V4, i'd say i agree with everything said:
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TheKaiser Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/21/2024 10:22pm
Yeah, I am inclined to agree with you regarding the heavier pull, and I don't understand why people don't seem to recognize that most levers have a return spring and these return springs vary wildly in the force they generate. I personally like a very light feeling free stroke, both for feel, and for fatigue reasons, and have thought about trying to swap springs in brakes with heavier springs fitted stock.
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 3:47pm
Having to set air pressure, rebound and compression automatically makes full suspension bikes a bad design compared to hardtails. If a product requires a certain setup to give a net positive, it is not a bad design per-se. Not following said instructions and saying the product is bad is bad reviewing. Speaking in general terms, not Mavens specifically, as I hardly know what's going on with them outside this topic and haven't tried them in real life so can't comment on them. Regarding Dale's review and my original comment @Eae903 my comment was aimed at comments from this thread, I...
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Shinook Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 12:14pm
They measured power with a consistent lever force (4kg according to their site), so unless I misunderstood, the test was done with a consistent force at the lever. As a result, all power/stop/etc times are based on that constant force at the lever. They didn't explicitly test engagement point, deadstroke force, etc, but their test does better reflect the type of power you get out of a brake for a given amount of lever force. The downside to this approach is that it doesn't measure lever pull distance, which I think is important, but also doesn't show how much force...
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Evil96 Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 12:13pm
totally agree with everything you said, indeed, best brakes Sram has made, but i don't see how they can be better than hopes for example, which has been proven stronger with the same effort to the lever AND has a way lighter free stroke, so even if you have a perfect brake technique and go hard all the time will result in less fatigue, just like for someone dragging brakes all the time like me.
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QuazyMtb Added a reply to Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 10:16am I've got two set of Mavens. I actually agree with the criticisms we're seeing from reviewers. The bleed process has been a faff, there's still some pump up issues, the levers squeak, etc. I quite like the brakes, it's why I have two sets, but I'd still rather have a lighter dead stroke. If that force/feel doesn't matter, why are...
Eae903 Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 10:08am
I just rewatched the set up portion of his review for the mavens and looked through srams install and bleed instructions didn't see anything missing from the set up. The mavens set up like any other sram brake, what steps did he skip?
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sethimus Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 10:08am
you dont need to do that with other brakes so that makes it automatically a bad design
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Eae903 Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 10:07am
Sure everyone has preferences, but aren't you letting your own biases lead you to disregard his reviews as flawed or invalid? The mavens do have a very heavy pull compared to other brakes on the market, Shimano, Hayes, maguras, other srams, and if you are not an amazing or experienced rider, you are going to drag your brakes far more. Heavy pull and brake dragging leads to hand fatigue and arm pump. That can be corrected with different braking technique, but one that is more suited to racing, braking late and hard only when you need to. But the majority...
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Evil96 Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/18/2024 10:07am
now i see why you don't like Dale, cause he did not like the Mavens, if you're strong as and an amazing rider that brakes only when needed, good on you, still those brake could've been executed better with a lighter lever pull. After all riding on gnarly trails causes hand fatigue, the less i can get from components the better, and brakes is one of the main one.
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Evil96 Liked a reply to forum topic Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment
11/17/2024 11:54am
I will and report back, but I can tell you most reviews are great for codes r and rsc and I find the first pure garbage, the second a tad better Still require a lot of effort to slow down in the steep
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