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jftoha Added a reply to New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/7/2025 3:41pm It's obviously more expensive to make different molds of different frames, but the one they choose to make is short because they like their bikes to handle a certain way. They could chose to make all the frames with 445mm, 450mm or even longer chainstays, but historically they have done them all with 430. Even on long travel bikes lie...
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jftoha Added a reply to New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/7/2025 2:07pm To assume that riders that don't want size specific stays just "don't know what they prefer" or that Evil is "wrong" because they design frames with short chainstays on every size is pretty presumptuous of you. I would say Evil is just not for you. There are plenty of manufacturers that sell what you want. Conversely, many riders just want...
ntm95 Liked a reply to forum topic New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/7/2025 1:11pm
Sure, you can ride anything, I've had a great variety of bikes as well. I think everyone knows how to ride a short chainstay bike, elbows up, aggressively low, drive through your shoulders/hips in corners. The traditional riding position and technique. If that works best for you, play on. And you are correct that a f/r ratio is only one part of the puzzle, the rest of the geo fills out the picture. But it is a strong indicator.
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h20-50 Liked a reply to forum topic New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/7/2025 1:11pm
Exactly. This Long/Short CS debate is pointless. They all can be ridden just fine with modern bike geo. it al comes down to your riding style and how you want the bike to ride.
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/7/2025 1:10pm
At the end of the day, geometry is going to come down to riding style and personal preferences..
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h20-50 Liked a reply to forum topic New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/7/2025 1:10pm
What are you going on about? A bike is only useful for a region because of some made up ratio keyboard warriors use to justify their geo. Been riding EVILS for years, all over Europe , US, Canada, South America. They ride amazing everywhere. If you actually learn how to ride a bike with a short chain stay, your mystical golden ratio of bike useability is a crock of nonsense. That's coming from someone who has ridden 1.7-1.93's. You can ride the rubber off all of them, they just require different rider inputs to maximize the handling characteristics. Full stop...
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maximumradness Liked a reply to forum topic New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/5/2025 8:22pm
I like to live in a world where “short stay guy” can have his jibby bike and “long stay guy” can find another brand that makes super stable bikes that work for him (me) and “doing pretty well in this economy guy” can have both, but none of them get to have the same brand. Or colors. Personally I like this “slappy bike” and hope to be “doing ok in this economy” guy , as I ride different stuff on different bikes - but they all have 450+ stays. For now …..
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Evil Bike Co. Liked a reply to forum topic New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/4/2025 11:58am
Thanks & great question - it's a longer answer than we can reasonably sum up here, but we'll do our best. Your assessment is correct - an "agile" ride character has always been somewhat of a hallmark here at Evil. We try to walk the line between agile/fun, and stable/confident. Short stays make for fun wheelies & jumps, thus, we've always stayed on the shorter side. There's a great argument for size-specific chainstay lengths - that much, we do not debate. Our rear triangles are a relatively complex mold. Molds are quite expensive. Introducing another rear triangle mold increases total...
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jftoha Added a reply to New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/4/2025 11:21am Please let there be a short travel MX wheel "play bike" with shorter chainstays, pleeeease!! A new mullet Calling!! I assume the eventual new Insurgent will be a 180-200mm Mullet too.
Evil Bike Co. Liked a reply to forum topic New EVIL Offering - Forum Hot Seat with Evil Bikes
11/4/2025 11:17am
Bet
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jftoha Added a comment about bike check Push'd Evil Following
1/4/2025 7:50am
Sharp looking bike. This Evil generation is one of the best looking bikes around. No wonder they have not redesigned it yet.
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Kizzard_Ling Liked a comment about bike check Transition Patrol Raw Alloy
12/27/2024 4:34am
Buitrerazo? Or some chamisero to feed the soul?
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jftoha Added a comment about bike check Transition Patrol Raw Alloy
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Thanks!
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jftoha Added a comment about bike check Transition Patrol Raw Alloy
12/24/2024 10:05pm
On recommendation from a Vital member, I used a cheap eraser wheel attached to a drill. It came off fairly easy and did not go though the clear coat finish.
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12/24/2024 10:03pm
I have a spire in raw and want to remove the decals too, how did you do it??
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Bike of the Day December 24, 2024!
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