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synBike Liked a reply to forum topic Frame design: how to select shock stroke & length?

1/12/2024 9:14am
I wouldn't read much into the Orange comments. They could have done a million things with leverage ratio that gave it a "more planted" feel. That would not have been due to the shock change alone. From past experience in the industry these types of comments often get misinterpreted. Bigger shocks are nicer because they have more oil volume and can handle a bit more heat as a result. Especially in that era where shocks were not as refined this may have been a significant factor. In terms of picking shock stroke it's exactly what previously people alluded to. You...
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CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

1/6/2024 12:04pm
Not off base at all. People often underestimate how much force you can momentarily put through your feet. Jumping and stomping on a surface can produce forces as high as 4,000 lbs. Bottoming out is a little different, but if you hit hard enough you can access momentary forces similar to stomping. That’s kind of the upper limit for your...

Uncle Cliffy Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/5/2024 8:42pm
Nah bro. I’m gonna have to say it’s the “mY rEviEwS aRe gETtiNg deLeTeD” guy.
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CascadeComponents Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/1/2024 7:30pm
We actually blocked you. Because of all the other crap not the thinking something is too progressive. You’re actually the only person we’ve ever blocked. I guess you get some sort of an award or something. Not sure it’s one I’d want…

TimBud Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

1/1/2024 11:01am
That’s because they’re not stupid enough yo be goaded into an argument with a pathetic child. You clearly have an issue with them so man up and deal with it in private.
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CascadeComponents Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

12/31/2023 6:21pm
Drops to flat are the nicest to visualize because there are so few unknowns. The impact the drop imparts is more of an energy input than a force. m*g*h is the energy that your suspension must absorb in a simplistic sense. Gets really complicated if you try and include your arms and legs plus you can selectively be very rigid...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

12/30/2023 2:53pm
This is not a tech rumor so I’m not going to talk about this again. What I will say is we haven’t seen a single case of frame damage due to regular use. Frames are pretty overbuilt. Your wheels are more likely to blow up first. Ask me how I know. Off the top of my head, I can only...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

12/29/2023 7:50pm
It would definitely be cool to work with more companies on aftermarket stuff. I’m not really sure why there’s pushback with links. No one (there are a couple of exceptions) is doing different options for their own bikes. It wouldn’t really make sense from a supply chain standpoint. The volumes aren’t on the same level as complete bikes. More options...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

12/29/2023 3:07pm
Keep in mind a manufacturer can’t really void a warranty. They can disclaim damage due to particular things. A warranty covers a lot of stuff. If your BB starts falling out that’s not related to fork and should still be covered. But if anything starts happening to the head tube you may be out of luck. Personally I’m a fan...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

12/1/2023 12:34pm
Impacted by heat and impacted by heat a significant amount are different things though. That's a pretty tight spread (looks like single digit percentage difference at bottom of travel) besides the slowest curve which looks like it could have something interesting going on with negative air spring crossover. When you look at how a bike like the Enduro with a...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

12/1/2023 10:34am
Spring rate isn't really going to vary due to compression speed. The common example of a process that's assumed to be adiabatic is compression in the cylinder of an engine, which can be on the same order of magnitude as a bullet. You'd be hard pressed to create a leverage curve that was so different than heat transfer during compression...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

11/30/2023 12:00pm
Take this with a grain of salt because this is a generic spring curve I came up with for an air can. To make the impact of leverage ratio very apparent, this is comparing a 170mm bike that is 30% progressive to a 170mm bike that is 60% progressive. The 30% line happens to be a V2 Megatower. The 60%...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Kinematics

11/29/2023 4:48pm
There was a question about mullet yokes on an Enduro in tech rumors so figured I'd drop something in here that is related that it brought to the front of my mind. When looking at leverage curve, there are a few things you can plot leverage as a function of that make sense: wheel position (vertical in travel), shock stroke...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

11/29/2023 4:37pm
Just to try and make sure this little bit makes sense, a yoke is essentially a method to increase the eye-to-eye length of a shock. It is rigidly connected to the shock so increasing the length of the yoke can be viewed as increasing the eye-to-eye. This is also what Specialized flip chips do. The Enduro is an interesting one...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Let's Talk Axle Path

11/23/2023 12:18pm
Yeah as long as the axle paths are in the same ballpark. Magnified axle path just makes it look like things are less similar than they are quite often. The thing I like about more rearward axle paths, mainly in the first half of travel, is the vertical displacement of the wheel doesn’t also pull the wheel over the bump...

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Let's Talk Axle Path

11/22/2023 3:36pm
If you look at the Stumpjumper Evo and the Ripmo, which are similar style bikes, axle path is actually extremely similar. This plot is true scale. Ripmo is the one with slightly less travel. My take is axle path is not what gives these bikes their character. Other aspects of their kinematics and geometry make a bigger difference.

CascadeComponents Added a reply to Let's Talk Axle Path

11/22/2023 9:55am
It was kind of fun reading this for a while and seeing what everyone thinks. I haven't ridden all high pivot bikes, but I've ridden a good number. Here's my take... The change in weight distribution thing is very real. I find it most obvious whenever I'm transferring weight around on the bike actively, such as lifting the front. It...