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6/19/2023 9:10am
zakyd213 wrote:
What's on the rear vale?   

What's on the rear vale? 
IMG 5277

 

Tyrewiz….. the thing that connects to an app and tells you the tyre pressures. 

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zakyd213 wrote:
What's on the rear vale?   

What's on the rear vale? 
IMG 5277

 

sharpy212 wrote:

Tyrewiz….. the thing that connects to an app and tells you the tyre pressures. 

I thought tyrewiz at first but it's not on the front wheel

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It looks like the Bosch smart system magnet as the speed sensor is inside the motor.

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6/19/2023 10:19am
gbil wrote:

It looks like the Bosch smart system magnet as the speed sensor is inside the motor.

Yes it is this. 

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6/19/2023 1:23pm
zakyd213 wrote:
What's on the rear vale?   

What's on the rear vale? 
IMG 5277

 

Bosch system speed sensor magnet. It takes it off the rotor and puts it on the valve stem. Frame manufactures don't have to make provisions for a speed sensor back at the rear end any more! Big plus to not have a hole at the seatstay/chainstay. 

bosch-rim-magnet-600x800-1

 

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6/19/2023 1:52pm
zakyd213 wrote:
What's on the rear vale?   

What's on the rear vale? 
IMG 5277

 

Mbarosko wrote:
Bosch system speed sensor magnet. It takes it off the rotor and puts it on the valve stem. Frame manufactures don't have to make provisions for...

Bosch system speed sensor magnet. It takes it off the rotor and puts it on the valve stem. Frame manufactures don't have to make provisions for a speed sensor back at the rear end any more! Big plus to not have a hole at the seatstay/chainstay. 

bosch-rim-magnet-600x800-1

 

How many sorcery chips does a guy need to offset the weight of that speed sensor magnet?

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6/19/2023 1:59pm
zakyd213 wrote:
What's on the rear vale?   

What's on the rear vale? 
IMG 5277

 

Mbarosko wrote:
Bosch system speed sensor magnet. It takes it off the rotor and puts it on the valve stem. Frame manufactures don't have to make provisions for...

Bosch system speed sensor magnet. It takes it off the rotor and puts it on the valve stem. Frame manufactures don't have to make provisions for a speed sensor back at the rear end any more! Big plus to not have a hole at the seatstay/chainstay. 

bosch-rim-magnet-600x800-1

 

Onawalk wrote:

How many sorcery chips does a guy need to offset the weight of that speed sensor magnet?

All of the sorcery chips Laughing 

In all seriousness though the magnet isn't too heavy. Very little noticeable imbalance even at 20mph on trail. Now in the bike stand you will probably notice it but it's not any worse than 120ml of Stan's flowing around in your tire... 

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Definitely not as bad as the insert lapping up all the Stan's fluid and making a huge coral like blob of all the latex bits that wedges between the tyre and the insert making you jump around riding on tarmac. 

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Mbarosko wrote:
Bosch system speed sensor magnet. It takes it off the rotor and puts it on the valve stem. Frame manufactures don't have to make provisions for...

Bosch system speed sensor magnet. It takes it off the rotor and puts it on the valve stem. Frame manufactures don't have to make provisions for a speed sensor back at the rear end any more! Big plus to not have a hole at the seatstay/chainstay. 

bosch-rim-magnet-600x800-1

 

Onawalk wrote:

How many sorcery chips does a guy need to offset the weight of that speed sensor magnet?

Mbarosko wrote:
All of the sorcery chips   In all seriousness though the magnet isn't too heavy. Very little noticeable imbalance even at 20mph on trail. Now in the...

All of the sorcery chips Laughing 

In all seriousness though the magnet isn't too heavy. Very little noticeable imbalance even at 20mph on trail. Now in the bike stand you will probably notice it but it's not any worse than 120ml of Stan's flowing around in your tire... 

Yeah, but it’s a magnet….

wait, lemme put the sarcasm font on

Yeah, but it’s a magnet, so it’ll be attracted to the earth

 

I’ll try to stop the derailment!

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6/19/2023 11:41pm

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 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

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6/19/2023 11:44pm

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 IMG 2257

I don‘t think this has been reported yet?!

PYGA Dh Bike Prototype 

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6/19/2023 11:55pm
 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

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 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

Intentse /dadjoke

 

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  I don‘t think this has been reported yet?! PYGA Dh Bike Prototype 

IMG 2256.jpeg?VersionId=Y81Mat RbF7C7IeafvIzfc

 IMG 2257

I don‘t think this has been reported yet?!

PYGA Dh Bike Prototype 

There's been a fair amount about it's development on their IG: https://www.instagram.com/pygabikes/?hl=en

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6/20/2023 12:45am
 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

IMG 2255.jpeg?VersionId=1EtkjtNdNaqESUT5WDR

 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

Isn't that Joe Connell in the back of that photo? Doesn't he ride for Privateer?

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 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

IMG 2255.jpeg?VersionId=1EtkjtNdNaqESUT5WDR

 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

Isn't that Joe Connell in the back of that photo? Doesn't he ride for Privateer?

Cable clamp in the headtube definitely says privateer.

 

Does nobody else notice the release of the pinion integrated drivetrain system?

6/20/2023 2:02am

Now that the Pivot prototype's been out in the open for a bit, I decided to review the available shots/footage of the Spesh prototype and I am almost certain there's no concentric link to the BB. There's just no clearance from what I can see, and having tried all sorts of weird link configurations in Linkage (including a six-bar one that essentially acted like the old Demo with a completely forward axle path) it just doesn't make sense in any layout. What does make sense to me is those three bolts indicating a modular BB, which I believe @paddydigital suggested a while back, and the room between the bash guard and chainstay suggests a 'pull'-style linkage similar to the Supreme DH V4 (which is backed up by some shots of the prototype last year with a clear pivot visible in the fabric cover). 

I made a couple changes to my model in Linkage to update it accordingly; mainly it just seems to have a more rising rate than the previous generation (and overall progression can vary wildly but we can't see anything so I went with a slightly more moderate amount).

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 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

IMG 2255.jpeg?VersionId=1EtkjtNdNaqESUT5WDR

 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

Isn't that Joe Connell in the back of that photo? Doesn't he ride for Privateer?

IMG 1025On his Instagram he already has some videos of it in action. Looks very finalised if they are showing it like this now. 

Regardless of the new one if I would buy a new Enduro frame it would definitely be the Privateer.

 

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 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

IMG 2255.jpeg?VersionId=1EtkjtNdNaqESUT5WDR

 Saw it at the Intense Pits in Leogang, any Ideas?

Isn't that Joe Connell in the back of that photo? Doesn't he ride for Privateer?

bikelurker wrote:

Cable clamp in the headtube definitely says privateer.

 

Does nobody else notice the release of the pinion integrated drivetrain system?

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6/20/2023 5:27am

Isn't that Joe Connell in the back of that photo? Doesn't he ride for Privateer?

bikelurker wrote:

Cable clamp in the headtube definitely says privateer.

 

Does nobody else notice the release of the pinion integrated drivetrain system?

Primoz wrote:
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6/20/2023 6:25am
bikelurker wrote:

Cable clamp in the headtube definitely says privateer.

 

Does nobody else notice the release of the pinion integrated drivetrain system?

As a current Privateer owner, those are definitely the same headtube cable clamps as the current generation. looks like it has two position for the shock (mullet compatible) and the rear dropouts are now adjustable. Plus it's got a ton more room in the front triangle, but I like the lower slung look of the current 161 more. 

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6/20/2023 6:49am Edited Date/Time 6/20/2023 7:15am
bikelurker wrote:

Cable clamp in the headtube definitely says privateer.

 

Does nobody else notice the release of the pinion integrated drivetrain system?

Poleczechy wrote:
As a current Privateer owner, those are definitely the same headtube cable clamps as the current generation. looks like it has two position for the shock...

As a current Privateer owner, those are definitely the same headtube cable clamps as the current generation. looks like it has two position for the shock (mullet compatible) and the rear dropouts are now adjustable. Plus it's got a ton more room in the front triangle, but I like the lower slung look of the current 161 more. 

Strangely it looks like in full 29er mode with high/short setup in the flipchips, so maybe they intend to release a mullet specific frameset (I see one of their factory riders testing this on insta) 

 

Current 161 always looked crazy steep in the seat tube angle to me, but the photo of this one is bad in order to asses the geo

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6/20/2023 9:17am Edited Date/Time 6/20/2023 9:20am
kcy4130 wrote:

Kona going back to their roots, love to see it.

The frame looks beyond burly and the rubber protector on the top tube surely must mean it's dual-crown fork compatible. Sick!

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6/20/2023 10:23am
Now that the Pivot prototype's been out in the open for a bit, I decided to review the available shots/footage of the Spesh prototype and I...

Now that the Pivot prototype's been out in the open for a bit, I decided to review the available shots/footage of the Spesh prototype and I am almost certain there's no concentric link to the BB. There's just no clearance from what I can see, and having tried all sorts of weird link configurations in Linkage (including a six-bar one that essentially acted like the old Demo with a completely forward axle path) it just doesn't make sense in any layout. What does make sense to me is those three bolts indicating a modular BB, which I believe @paddydigital suggested a while back, and the room between the bash guard and chainstay suggests a 'pull'-style linkage similar to the Supreme DH V4 (which is backed up by some shots of the prototype last year with a clear pivot visible in the fabric cover). 

I made a couple changes to my model in Linkage to update it accordingly; mainly it just seems to have a more rising rate than the previous generation (and overall progression can vary wildly but we can't see anything so I went with a slightly more moderate amount).

Screenshot 2023-06-20 014821.png?VersionId=oVSgn11PBhxHjF5Srp

Screenshot 2023-06-20 015640.png?VersionId=OSntRCHYNL.U

 Screenshot 2023-06-20 020000

 

what‘s with all those cables running out of the BB, i definitely see 2? 1 must be brakeline but what‘s with the other (grey) one?

6/20/2023 10:37am
krabo83 wrote:

what‘s with all those cables running out of the BB, i definitely see 2? 1 must be brakeline but what‘s with the other (grey) one?

what if... what if there's a speed sensor (like an e-bike) and this is used to automatically adjust the shock rate?

At higher speeds, the shock could self-adjust and provide different ride characteristics to low-speed riding.

Then, the buttons on the handlebars might be overrides?

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6/20/2023 10:46am

IMG 5196.jpeg?VersionId=HLw3SYHDEQ65r2WzS

Marzocchi hinting at a 38 style fork or a high end offering? Probably the former to rival the RS Domain if I had to guess.

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6/20/2023 11:42am
what if... what if there's a speed sensor (like an e-bike) and this is used to automatically adjust the shock rate? At higher speeds, the shock...

what if... what if there's a speed sensor (like an e-bike) and this is used to automatically adjust the shock rate?

At higher speeds, the shock could self-adjust and provide different ride characteristics to low-speed riding.

Then, the buttons on the handlebars might be overrides?

Probably just a speed sensor for data acquisition. 

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