Which grease is best: FETT 2000, Motorex or PM600?

CJIC
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Hey guys,


I´ve been using PM600 for years and recently a friend told me to try FETT2000, Motorex. After all, I dont have any experience with FETT2000.

Does anyone know both grease and could tell me which one is best? Does they have same use?


Thx, Regards
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After a quick look at the specs, FETT2000 appears to be waterproof but has a lower drop point than PM600. (It will drop the oil out of the soap base at high temperatures before the PM600 will.)
I don't know that drop point is all that important in MTB use, since we're talking about temperatures in excess of 140 Celcius before it happens.
PM600 is called "water-resistant," which means it is less suitable to water incursion. (Again, not a big deal in MTB, unless you ride through streams where the BB and axles are submerged.)

I think either grease is fine for MTB use.
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CJIC
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Thought the same. Really hard get any piece higher temperature that 140 Celsius and also ride places where BB and axles will be submerged 🤔

I'll give fett2000 a shot anyway
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2/4/2021 7:46am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2021 7:48am
I have also always used the PM600, so far I am satisfied and do not dare to switch to something else.
In any case, to find out for sure, you need to try.
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CJIC wrote:
Hey guys, I´ve been using [i]PM600[/i] for years and recently a friend told me to try [i]FETT2000, Motorex[/i]. After all, I dont have any experience with...
Hey guys,


I´ve been using PM600 for years and recently a friend told me to try FETT2000, Motorex. After all, I dont have any experience with FETT2000.

Does anyone know both grease and could tell me which one is best? Does they have same use?


Thx, Regards
I've always just bought automotive grease, like Lucas Red and Tacky, for bearings and general assembly and then Sram butter for fork assembly and the such. Never really thought much about it, What's the advantage of PM600 and these others?
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2/4/2021 1:35pm
CJIC wrote:
Hey guys, I´ve been using [i]PM600[/i] for years and recently a friend told me to try [i]FETT2000, Motorex[/i]. After all, I dont have any experience with...
Hey guys,


I´ve been using PM600 for years and recently a friend told me to try FETT2000, Motorex. After all, I dont have any experience with FETT2000.

Does anyone know both grease and could tell me which one is best? Does they have same use?


Thx, Regards
I've always just bought automotive grease, like Lucas Red and Tacky, for bearings and general assembly and then Sram butter for fork assembly and the such...
I've always just bought automotive grease, like Lucas Red and Tacky, for bearings and general assembly and then Sram butter for fork assembly and the such. Never really thought much about it, What's the advantage of PM600 and these others?
Same here.
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ctbiker888
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2/4/2021 2:42pm
Anything but that park green stank pit

head down to the local boat store and get you some of that good good super waterproof marine grease. Works every time... nice thick red auto grease works wonders as well.

*unless suspension, use sram butter // slick honey
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2/4/2021 6:17pm
Slikoleum for suspension stuff and Maxima waterproof blue grease for watercraft/motosports for just about everything else for me. Never heard of either of these 3 mentioned. Just stick to what's available at my local watercraft/motosport store.
2/4/2021 9:24pm
Part of the equation too is what grease NOT to use. Don't use any graphite grease (the black stuff at your auto parts store) as it can lead to galvanic corrosion. I know this has been a long battled argument in the bike world, but the way I see it: if there are dozens of other great greases out there then why bother with the graphite stuff, whether it causes corrosion or not. Don't use old fashioned Valvoline axle grease because it'll wash right out of the areas you put it. I personally am not a fan of the white lithium greases, I'm my experience they break down quicker and turn to shmoo quicker then other premium greases.

My personal favorite is BelRay Waterproof grease. Its thick and sticky and lasts damn near forever. Also good exp experience with Maxima waterproof. Lucas Red n Tacky. Dumonde MR grease for hub bearings, although it doesn't last as long. As others have said - slick honey for suspension and the lightest ever coating on shift cables. And of course, you have to keep around a small jar of your required hub mechanism grease (Dumonde Freehub say they are both DT Swiss and i9 approved - not sure a out King and others).
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2/4/2021 9:32pm
Also I forgot to mention. The FETT 2000/Bike Grease 2000 is crazy expensive in the US (not sure about in Brazil). Theres really no reason to spend 4x the money on grease for a bike. Any of the products people have listed will work just fine for our bikes. We're not dealing with extreme pressure, temp, shear, load etc. For me the number one selling price is the waterproof qualities and how well it stays where I want it to. BelRay for me.
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The only high temperature place on our bikes are the brake rotors and calipers. Shocks get warm, but it's not much.

The loads also aren't really that high too. The grease is there mainly to prolong the bearing life by preventing water and crud ingress. That's what kills bearings on MTBs (and in fact most bearings in general).

I use FETT 2000 only because I bought it a while ago on Bike-Components together with my order, because I couldn't be arsed to look for something in different stores. I clicked and I bought it. When using it I generally coat the seams where water could otherwise get to the bearings, but I'm wondering if it makes sense as crud usually sticks to the grease then...

But yeah, if you have something waterproof to pack into pivot bearings (and headset), that's a good option. I'd keep away from it for the hub bearings though, they don't spin that fast, but still, it'd make sense for them to spin freely. And they're relatively well protected as they are also not in the line of fire of crud.
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i use the motorex 2000. works great.
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qblambda
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2/4/2021 11:57pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2021 11:57pm
I'm using the Motorex Fett176 GP for years for years without issues
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2/5/2021 2:34am Edited Date/Time 2/5/2021 2:36am
I use marine grease I buy in engineres shop, I then transfer it into a shimano tube so I can use the little bike dispenser pump. So much better than typical thin bike grease.
Always fully pack bearings with it and let them spin and wipe off excess.
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Try this: https://www.hazet.de/en/products/workshop-tools-safety-at-work/lubricat…

Many brands carry the same gun, I just know Hazet has one (bought one at the same time as the Motorex gear that I wrote above). Works well.

As for bearings, fill them, spin them, fill them maybe some more and then squeeze the seals back on. There is no need to have any air inside a pivot bearing if you ask me. Though SKF Solid Oil bearings look nice for pivot applications.
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I have always used automotive thick grease for bearings, pack the bearings till they are over flowing, push the shields back on, wipe of excess and there is next to zero chance of anything getting in there.
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2/5/2021 2:43pm
+1 for Maxima Waterproof grease! It sticks around better than PM600 in my experience, I just wish it wasn't blue so it was easier to tell apart from blue threadlocker
2/6/2021 2:56am
Since several years I just use PM600. For my bike and my cars. Only in during winter I additionally use copperpast for my bottom bracket and head set.
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2/6/2021 3:26am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2021 3:28am
Why in the hell would you use copper paste on bearings?!?! At all, but even more so, why in the winter only??

Copper paste is a high temperature paste (usually used to prevent squealing of brake pads), that is used as a corrosion preventative. Plus it has copper particles, so it's not a lubricant per-se, at least not the kind you need in bearings and the like.
2/6/2021 6:26am
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Why in the hell would you use copper paste on bearings?!?! At all, but even more so, why in the winter only?? Copper paste is a...
Why in the hell would you use copper paste on bearings?!?! At all, but even more so, why in the winter only??

Copper paste is a high temperature paste (usually used to prevent squealing of brake pads), that is used as a corrosion preventative. Plus it has copper particles, so it's not a lubricant per-se, at least not the kind you need in bearings and the like.
I took it to mean on BB threads and headset cups, not bearings. If it's bearings, I feel sorry for that bike.
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But why would you remove the BB for the winter and put copper grease on it? If it's good and not creaking, leave it in! Smile
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Part of the equation too is what grease NOT to use. Don't use any graphite grease (the black stuff at your auto parts store) as it...
Part of the equation too is what grease NOT to use. Don't use any graphite grease (the black stuff at your auto parts store) as it can lead to galvanic corrosion. I know this has been a long battled argument in the bike world, but the way I see it: if there are dozens of other great greases out there then why bother with the graphite stuff, whether it causes corrosion or not. Don't use old fashioned Valvoline axle grease because it'll wash right out of the areas you put it. I personally am not a fan of the white lithium greases, I'm my experience they break down quicker and turn to shmoo quicker then other premium greases.

My personal favorite is BelRay Waterproof grease. Its thick and sticky and lasts damn near forever. Also good exp experience with Maxima waterproof. Lucas Red n Tacky. Dumonde MR grease for hub bearings, although it doesn't last as long. As others have said - slick honey for suspension and the lightest ever coating on shift cables. And of course, you have to keep around a small jar of your required hub mechanism grease (Dumonde Freehub say they are both DT Swiss and i9 approved - not sure a out King and others).
That Bel-Ray stuff is awesome. The best waterproof grease out there.
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Also I forgot to mention. The FETT 2000/Bike Grease 2000 is crazy expensive in the US (not sure about in Brazil). Theres really no reason to...
Also I forgot to mention. The FETT 2000/Bike Grease 2000 is crazy expensive in the US (not sure about in Brazil). Theres really no reason to spend 4x the money on grease for a bike. Any of the products people have listed will work just fine for our bikes. We're not dealing with extreme pressure, temp, shear, load etc. For me the number one selling price is the waterproof qualities and how well it stays where I want it to. BelRay for me.
Yep, I dont like white lithium grease either. Thats why I went to PM600.


FETT2000 has been an experiment, since it is not that expensive here. So thats why I am trying it.


But when it becames to bike parts, prices are becoming a nightmare here.



Cheers
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All you guys and your fancy greases. I found Green Grease 101 at Walmart a decade ago, water proof, light weight & does a pretty darn good job. Although they don't give any specs on it so who knows what the deal is.

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