Modern Inverted Single Crown Forks

Kanista
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sethimus wrote:
bought new forks the other day 

bought new forks the other day

IMG 9096

 

Sick fleet of forks. I guess you will remove the leg protection?

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Reposting Kuzlich from the Tech ThreadI can see it now. Someone’s going to pull it apart and modify it. Maybe we drop it into a different...

Reposting Kuzlich from the Tech Thread

I can see it now. Someone’s going to pull it apart and modify it. Maybe we drop it into a different chassis and/or get a good ti nitride coating and maybe proper Kashima. This can be fun!!


Honestly, I am stoked for it though!! Maybe it’s just the optimism from also riding moto. More tech and more folks in the inverted game can be promising. KYB is already the jammmmm in moto. We’ve seen what Showa can do and bring to the bike world with the Honda program. Minnaar has said within the last year that he pulled it off the wall and it’s still as good of suspension as anything he’s ever ridden. So… this can be excitingIMG 1418.png?VersionId=l0AMcBD5rdBcIGWBhn2ZI0k64IMG 1416.jpeg?VersionId=iBBgcjsvhBcGf2hbUIMG 1415 1.jpeg?VersionId=2LEVLhKFIoiK XUEPh5Oo3qDoWCFE2IMG 1414IMG 1413IMG 1412 0.jpeg?VersionId=mcdbDfEWm3iizSpB1WiccrkJ5e2IBDgIMG 1411IMG 1425

j0lsrud wrote:

I like this approach.

And do you guys think the stanchions can be moved up/down in the clamps? Supereasy adjustment for head angle/stack.

I believe they can be from the photo and what's in the text. Looks like maybe 15mm of adjustment up and down.

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This has been a great thread. Thanks for everyone's contributions. I feel like this has convinced me to get a flash 38 but they only offer...

This has been a great thread. Thanks for everyone's contributions. I feel like this has convinced me to get a flash 38 but they only offer 44mm offset. I've done back to back testing and I prefer a higher offset. For Enduro/DH hta 48mm is my favorite but I much prefer 51 to 44. 44 for me feels like a floppy seesaw at lower speeds and provides a more feedback through the bars when cornering through big bumps. 51 might have a hair less stability at speed with the fork compressed but never bothered me and honestly I think the front wheel being further out there adds more confidence on the steeps. I also feel 51 is more intuitive and holds lines more predictably. Any chance we can convince intend to release higher offset fork lugs? Am I the only one who feels this strongly on the topic? 

Current favorite setup: fox 38 E-bike (swapped from 44 to 51 uppers) and fox 40 (48) for DH both with avalanche cartridge and smashpot. Used to ride a lot of mx/supermoto and itching to try an inverted fork on MTB. Out back, the Telum is my favorite so far. I'm 245 lbs. 

Thanks for listening! 

 

I've been wondering about this since riding an old bike of mine a few years back now that was sold to a friend and recognizing how much better the front end felt with the 'old' 51mm offset.

 

Other data point, I had a KTM with a an adjustable offset, 20 or 18. Standard was 20 and was, not great (back when KTMs didn't handle great), I tried 18 and it was horrific, totally unrideable. Then I managed to get a factory clamp that was 22mm, nirvana handling. All settings made really large differences.

 

Anyways...

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This has been a great thread. Thanks for everyone's contributions. I feel like this has convinced me to get a flash 38 but they only offer...

This has been a great thread. Thanks for everyone's contributions. I feel like this has convinced me to get a flash 38 but they only offer 44mm offset. I've done back to back testing and I prefer a higher offset. For Enduro/DH hta 48mm is my favorite but I much prefer 51 to 44. 44 for me feels like a floppy seesaw at lower speeds and provides a more feedback through the bars when cornering through big bumps. 51 might have a hair less stability at speed with the fork compressed but never bothered me and honestly I think the front wheel being further out there adds more confidence on the steeps. I also feel 51 is more intuitive and holds lines more predictably. Any chance we can convince intend to release higher offset fork lugs? Am I the only one who feels this strongly on the topic? 

Current favorite setup: fox 38 E-bike (swapped from 44 to 51 uppers) and fox 40 (48) for DH both with avalanche cartridge and smashpot. Used to ride a lot of mx/supermoto and itching to try an inverted fork on MTB. Out back, the Telum is my favorite so far. I'm 245 lbs. 

Thanks for listening! 

 

Suns_PSD wrote:
I've been wondering about this since riding an old bike of mine a few years back now that was sold to a friend and recognizing how...

I've been wondering about this since riding an old bike of mine a few years back now that was sold to a friend and recognizing how much better the front end felt with the 'old' 51mm offset.

 

Other data point, I had a KTM with a an adjustable offset, 20 or 18. Standard was 20 and was, not great (back when KTMs didn't handle great), I tried 18 and it was horrific, totally unrideable. Then I managed to get a factory clamp that was 22mm, nirvana handling. All settings made really large differences.

 

Anyways...

Intend got back to me after I asked about higher offset options and some background on why I think more offset is beneficial for an Enduro bike. Andre said they won't offer other offsets. Maybe if some more people reach out they would consider it but my message was not compelling enough. 
 

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2/16/2026 9:05am
Evil96 wrote:

Did you ever feel the lack of bleeders was an issue? 

Not really an issue as much as it would be a welcome addition. It is somewhat easy to burp Intend forks by loosening the top nut a bit with a 10mm socket and pushing down. Better than flipping the bike over and using a little zip tie in the wiper seal. 

The Italian Guy puts bleeders in the crown.

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Speaking of Intend forks, I was at Bootleg Canyon in Nevada this past weekend and there is a trail feature there known affectionately as The Poop Chute. It's a jagged solid rock waterfall full of notches and ledges. It has a minimum speed requirement to not get hung up and shot over the bars, you don't want to creep down it. 

It was the first time I had ridden it on an inverted fork, and it really highlighted the benefit of torsional flex. The fork didn't feel like a noodle or like you were just along for the ride, but it was so calm at the bars it was almost alarming at first. Usually this section requires a solid grip on the bars and tightening through the core to try and keep the front end tracking and on line. It's a bit of a clencher for sure.

With the Flash 35 it muted the impacts and front wheel grabbing sensations and gave a level of confidence that isn't normally there. I felt like I could even move around and change lines if needed. Pretty cool.

 

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i guess i won't be playing around with nuts to release air, hopefully all goes well regardless as on my current 36 i do bleed them every now and then and it definitely works, can't say i've ever felt a difference though.

sick, i'm looking forward to an Intend fork, finally pulled the trigger on one!

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2/16/2026 1:17pm
Evil96 wrote:
i guess i won't be playing around with nuts to release air, hopefully all goes well regardless as on my current 36 i do bleed them...

i guess i won't be playing around with nuts to release air, hopefully all goes well regardless as on my current 36 i do bleed them every now and then and it definitely works, can't say i've ever felt a difference though.

sick, i'm looking forward to an Intend fork, finally pulled the trigger on one!

I've been fiddling with the bleeders on a 36 all the time, heck I need to bleed the lowers when going from 0 to 30PSI (hybrid coil). I just don't miss the bleeders on my Intend but I don't ride big elevation changes either.

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2/26/2026 2:41pm

I'm thinking about getting the Infinity for the dual crown + USD package and haven't seen too much about it apart from one or two of the replies here. It'll be going on a Spire with a coil in the back and Zeb 3.1 with smashpot. I love the sensitivity of the smashpot but to get enough support under braking and big compressions, the level of damping I need starts to eat away at the off the top sensitivity. Thinking the Infinity will solve that problem and still have amazing off the top feel, but wondering if anybody who has the fork can share their experience.

Also, I'm in the US and although I love to tinker with and bracket settings, I've never messed with the internals of a fork apart from a lower service. Will my lack of tuning/rebuilding experience be an issue or is it easy enough to figure out with the level of customer support that intend has? I also have one of the best suspension shops in the country where I live but they don't specifically service Intend. Thanks so much!

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2/26/2026 2:45pm Edited Date/Time 2/26/2026 7:11pm

Also if anybody has thoughts on the Push V2, also interested in hearing about that. Thanks!

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2/26/2026 6:45pm

Also if anybody has thoughts on the Push V2, also interested in hearing about that. Thanks!

TEAMROBOT wrote:

This might be a dumb question, but did you see the Push Nine One V2 review we posted a few weeks ago?

https://www.vitalmtb.com/community/TEAMROBOT/blog/02/10/2026/entry/145181

I did and it was awesome! Eagerly awaiting part 2; your Megatower and how you ride it mirror my Spire and how I ride (though def not at your level haha) more than the Sentinel, so that will be interesting to see how the new tune changes things.

Hoping to hear from other folks how the Push handles steep and loose slow speed jank as I also ride a lot of that, but if you rode anything along those lines, would love your take. Thanks!

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I don't have an infinity, but I do have a flash. Which is pretty close anyway. 

It will definitely achieve those things you are after. Under braking is where the fork really shines and you don't have to run a power of damping to keep it under control. Because they're so well put together off the top sensitivity is a given. 

 

They're piece of cake to service and pull apart. Like stupid easy. Lower service (or is that upper lol) is very fast too. I just swapped in their new damper unit too. Which was very easy also. They have pretty good videos etc on how to do stuff. They're easy to get hold of as well. 

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2/26/2026 7:05pm
I did and it was awesome! Eagerly awaiting part 2; your Megatower and how you ride it mirror my Spire and how I ride (though def...

I did and it was awesome! Eagerly awaiting part 2; your Megatower and how you ride it mirror my Spire and how I ride (though def not at your level haha) more than the Sentinel, so that will be interesting to see how the new tune changes things.

Hoping to hear from other folks how the Push handles steep and loose slow speed jank as I also ride a lot of that, but if you rode anything along those lines, would love your take. Thanks!

I've found the the Nine One great for slower jank - the suppleness is wild, while the sub chamber means it will still maintain the support you want when crawling traction needs steep roll over / drop support. It's a bit like velcro - the reivew and Push have both noted this has a very calm feel, which I love in the jank. Being able to turn off the sub chamber is great - max the traction when you want.

I've not noticed any untoward flex in those situations (81kg in gear, normal bike). If anything, it seems to just settle - maybe whatever flex is happening is part of that composed, calm feel.

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When there will be Part 2 of the Push 9.1 Vital Test? Smile  

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Beckumer wrote:

When there will be Part 2 of the Push 9.1 Vital Test? Smile  

Hopefully soon! There were a couple other (good) developments at PUSH that are making the re-tune process take a little longer than normal, but I'm looking forward to round two soon!

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4/6/2026 10:40am
Evil96 wrote:
i guess i won't be playing around with nuts to release air, hopefully all goes well regardless as on my current 36 i do bleed them...

i guess i won't be playing around with nuts to release air, hopefully all goes well regardless as on my current 36 i do bleed them every now and then and it definitely works, can't say i've ever felt a difference though.

sick, i'm looking forward to an Intend fork, finally pulled the trigger on one!

i messed with mine a few times at big bear. i was just curious to see any difference when purging air from altitude.

fork felt exactly the same, only thing i noticed was top-out went away. Flash 35 is already a little finnicky with top out (depends on your riding style)

congrats on the fork! you'll never regret it, my guess is you'll immediately have no interest in trying anything else... haha

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Evil96 wrote:
i guess i won't be playing around with nuts to release air, hopefully all goes well regardless as on my current 36 i do bleed them...

i guess i won't be playing around with nuts to release air, hopefully all goes well regardless as on my current 36 i do bleed them every now and then and it definitely works, can't say i've ever felt a difference though.

sick, i'm looking forward to an Intend fork, finally pulled the trigger on one!

i messed with mine a few times at big bear. i was just curious to see any difference when purging air from altitude.fork felt exactly the...

i messed with mine a few times at big bear. i was just curious to see any difference when purging air from altitude.

fork felt exactly the same, only thing i noticed was top-out went away. Flash 35 is already a little finnicky with top out (depends on your riding style)

congrats on the fork! you'll never regret it, my guess is you'll immediately have no interest in trying anything else... haha

Indeed, interest gone, I just need to find my set up

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4/6/2026 10:32pm
Beckumer wrote:

When there will be Part 2 of the Push 9.1 Vital Test? Smile  

TEAMROBOT wrote:
Hopefully soon! There were a couple other (good) developments at PUSH that are making the re-tune process take a little longer than normal, but I'm looking...

Hopefully soon! There were a couple other (good) developments at PUSH that are making the re-tune process take a little longer than normal, but I'm looking forward to round two soon!

The type of good developments that might trickle down to current owners?

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The type of good developments that might trickle down to current owners?

Unofficially? Definitely maybe.

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Anyone else enjoying the new Smooth Operator? Perhaps it is placebo, but my fork now feels more stable / less divey without giving up the amazing buttery feeling and compliance in high-speed chatter.

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ballz wrote:
Anyone else enjoying the new Smooth Operator? Perhaps it is placebo, but my fork now feels more stable / less divey without giving up the amazing...

Anyone else enjoying the new Smooth Operator? Perhaps it is placebo, but my fork now feels more stable / less divey without giving up the amazing buttery feeling and compliance in high-speed chatter.

I just had a play with it, but I haven’t used a normal one before 

I’m still adjusting pressures and all that

So far 81kg 81psi

Tired 0/3/5/7 clicks from full open and 5turns from full closed rebound

It felt the best at either 3 or 0 lsc 

I still feel it’s got plenty of ramp up so I might try lower pressures or the less linear cap


That’s on a Edge Blackline brand new on a new bike so I’m all adjusting to it

With the compression fully open on more cross country trails it was insanely smooth but without lacking support 

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I've tried both, the new damper just gives me more confidence to introduce Lsc without the harshness the previous Gen had in that same scenario. 

Have a flash @100kg run 101psi 5click for steep, 6 for a little more comfort. 

I'd love to get the old damper custom tuned with a dyno mind you 🤷 

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sethimus wrote:
bought new forks the other day 

bought new forks the other day

IMG 9096

 

You stated before that you never noticed any flex from your previous F35.

Now that you've ridden the F38 (I presume that you've ridden it by now) can you comment on the F35 vs. F38 and include your weight, conditions, riding level?

Why did you make this change over?

 

Thx.

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4/15/2026 10:48am Edited Date/Time 4/15/2026 10:49am

thanks to your president, i am still not able to ride the fork as the velduro is still on a ship, needing to take a huge u-turn around africa.

i changed it because my cousin wanted one and i can't have him have the burlier looking fork. simple as that. and i got a great deal on both of them

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It’s great to see Cane Creek enter the chat with the Invert. I’ve always found their forks great, and have a Helm coil on one bike I tend to ride back to back with my Nine:one.

If the torsional stiffness claims are true (40% stiffer than the podium when using the 20mm axle) it will be interesting to see if ‘too stiff’ becomes a thing.

It looks well supported, easy to service, and relatively well priced. I suspect having a well priced option rolling out will actually sell more Push and Intend forks. Rather than compete directly.

1 day ago Edited Date/Time 1 day ago

Excited to see this option from CC, looks promising on paper and in pics. Travel to 180mm!

If the stiffness claims of 15mm vs 20mm axle are correct, that makes for an interesting tuning option for different riders and terrain.

p5pb29569458
Screenshot 2026-04-16 091222.jpg?VersionId= dR2Hu5Kjarl1jgqlTsxAtQCl0q
Four bolt moto style floating axle

The axle uses 17-4 SS, a high strength grade of stainless steel. It's expensive and often a pain to machine due to chip wrapping tendencies. 

Weight is 200grams less then the PUSH coil sprung fork. and almost 200 grams more than the Intend Flash 38.  

No personal experience with CC fork dampers, sounds like a traditional rubber bladder design similar to what Intend uses.

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Excited to see this option from CC, looks promising on paper and in pics. Travel to 180mm!If the stiffness claims of 15mm vs 20mm axle are...

Excited to see this option from CC, looks promising on paper and in pics. Travel to 180mm!

If the stiffness claims of 15mm vs 20mm axle are correct, that makes for an interesting tuning option for different riders and terrain.

p5pb29569458
Screenshot 2026-04-16 091222.jpg?VersionId= dR2Hu5Kjarl1jgqlTsxAtQCl0q
Four bolt moto style floating axle

The axle uses 17-4 SS, a high strength grade of stainless steel. It's expensive and often a pain to machine due to chip wrapping tendencies. 

Weight is 200grams less then the PUSH coil sprung fork. and almost 200 grams more than the Intend Flash 38.  

No personal experience with CC fork dampers, sounds like a traditional rubber bladder design similar to what Intend uses.

Excited to learn more about this one.

They are offering a compelling package between the travel, weight, guards, axle choices, price, etc. 

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Excited to see this option from CC, looks promising on paper and in pics. Travel to 180mm!If the stiffness claims of 15mm vs 20mm axle are...

Excited to see this option from CC, looks promising on paper and in pics. Travel to 180mm!

If the stiffness claims of 15mm vs 20mm axle are correct, that makes for an interesting tuning option for different riders and terrain.

p5pb29569458
Screenshot 2026-04-16 091222.jpg?VersionId= dR2Hu5Kjarl1jgqlTsxAtQCl0q
Four bolt moto style floating axle

The axle uses 17-4 SS, a high strength grade of stainless steel. It's expensive and often a pain to machine due to chip wrapping tendencies. 

Weight is 200grams less then the PUSH coil sprung fork. and almost 200 grams more than the Intend Flash 38.  

No personal experience with CC fork dampers, sounds like a traditional rubber bladder design similar to what Intend uses.

Woah that heavy as 

I’m happy that brands like Intend exist, still making stuff for non e-bike 

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