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So yeah. How about a UCI Claims rule at National Championships?
Only make it 3 times retail price. Loic shows up to race...you can claim his bike for $30k after the race.
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no because this is just a thread, not a whole forum. know the words, use them right.
Equally on the organizers of Loretta’s for allowing that to happen. What’s the point of a rule if you ain’t going to enforce it.
Again, in my opinion, we do not want this rule in pro racing for claiming Bikes. It would put companies like Ohlins or RockShox not wanting to make new tech out or brembo coming in with proto because someone can just take it at the next race.
Level the playing field for the pro US downhill series or maybe IX access cup? But I love the Tech and I love how they’re pushing the level of the bikes each year at the World Cup and would hate to see that go away.
maybe Junior racing could have some equipment rules, but most of those writers are on pretty production machines
No. Not at all. They mediated. But they were forced by their own rule to enforce it. Deegan's went to the kids sponsors & got his main sponsor to threaten to take everything away from him that he'd worked for from the time he was little. All because Deegan's had unlimited resources.
To be clear, only offering a perspective. DH is still mostly the racer, not the bike. Marginal gains can be had from the bike itself in our sport at Nationals.
In moto, a factory bike can wipe out any capacity for amateurs to compete at Lorettas.
Not comparing apples to apples here.
Closest comp in our sport, it's true, would be the suspension company components.
Asa showing up to Nationals on full Fox Factory digitally tuned, telemetry tested & set suspension isn't as massive an advantage over his competition as a works engine from Star.
Hold the fucking phone..... did you just call one of the GOAT's of World Motocross Antonio Cairoli "Adam Corolli"
fuck sake lol
Yeesh, had no idea. That’s what happens when you’re a future multi-million dollar media star at junior level.
Thanks for the info.
Nothing against prototypes, but they have to make it down to production bikes. Specialized has released almost 4 different Stumpjumpers while the enduros/demos have been stuck in time.
I'd allow a maximum of 12/24 months in the WC for something to get down to consumer level. At least when it comes to frames (theres always been pro only versions of suspensions (blackbox) and others). Privateers should also be able to ride the last year WC winning bike. Look at motoGP.
I think prototypes in WC and top level racing is the way to go.
Don't remember the podcast, but i think it was Gee Who said they got a new frame, that was not perfect, but they had to race it 2-3(?) years because of the product cycle.
So for a racer, and team, to be able to make small adjustments all the time makes the bikes better, and the consumer bikes better in my opinion.
Regarding cost, i have no idea how big budgets teams have, but as long they can run protos i hope they are allowed.
Ironically, in DH, placing a requirement to offer proof of concept from a WC bike to the general public would cut out the little guys. Zero chance of getting a small market, small ownership frame to market all while racing it.
Would just wipe out any privateer group like Frameworks.
I for one love prototype shit in DH or any other form of racing. I don't think we should put any contingency on it coming to the consumer either. It still comes down to the rider. Look at Spech, both Loic and Finn have been on the same bike and their results are different. Jackson's cleaning up this year on a fairly stock V10.
Proto's keep things interesting and help push forward our small sport.
dude is so fast

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