Creak chasing - CSU vs. headset

7/14/2025 9:28pm Edited Date/Time 7/14/2025 9:30pm

So, not sure whats going on but This is a new one as of march 25. I've used the product for the last 15 ish years when it first become available.
Maybe they've removed the thickener? or bad batch?? the picture is super stringy and thick, Its good stuff but a pain in the ass to work with.
Sorry to anyone who bought it on my advice and didnt get what was claimed or expected.
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7/14/2025 9:31pm
Same. I’ve found the Rock N Roll Super Coat grease to be fairly sticky. Similar to the Chris King Silver. I was hoping the UR stuff would...

Same. 

I’ve found the Rock N Roll Super Coat grease to be fairly sticky. Similar to the Chris King Silver. I was hoping the UR stuff would be even tackier, but that doesn’t look to be the case. 

The Chris King crew were my booth neighbors at NW Tune-Up this past weekend and had some good chats with them. Turns out they have a mad scientist on staff who actually formulated and makes their own grease, it's not just white labeled stuff. Pretty cool.

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7/15/2025 12:40am
sethimus wrote:

i bought the same and its very liquidy, looks exactly as in the pictures posted above

ozzer wrote:
I forgot to look at the packaging and maybe it needs to be stirred before use. lol.. Nah.. So far, after my goopy reset, I hammered my...

I forgot to look at the packaging and maybe it needs to be stirred before use. lol.. Nah.. 

So far, after my goopy reset, I hammered my Levo for a solid 30 mile ride and no creak. 

Greases are strange, my latest batch of slickoleum is much tackier than normal. Sometimes its almost liquid. Chris King ring drive would be wildly different between batches which is why I think they changed it a few years back. 

They normally still work though - the feeling of grease can be deceptive, how "thick" it seems comes from the thickener used and not its viscosity, so a high viscosity grease can seem kinda oily or smooth but take a huge amount of pressure, while something more solid can have a relatively low viscosity.

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7/15/2025 2:12pm

I think in the USA it's called "Lucas Red and Tacky" or something. I get the same thing from a Boating store here for dirt cheap. One tub will last me a lifetime. 

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7/15/2025 2:27pm
Same. I’ve found the Rock N Roll Super Coat grease to be fairly sticky. Similar to the Chris King Silver. I was hoping the UR stuff would...

Same. 

I’ve found the Rock N Roll Super Coat grease to be fairly sticky. Similar to the Chris King Silver. I was hoping the UR stuff would be even tackier, but that doesn’t look to be the case. 

JVP wrote:
The Chris King crew were my booth neighbors at NW Tune-Up this past weekend and had some good chats with them. Turns out they have a...

The Chris King crew were my booth neighbors at NW Tune-Up this past weekend and had some good chats with them. Turns out they have a mad scientist on staff who actually formulated and makes their own grease, it's not just white labeled stuff. Pretty cool.

Yup I use a lot of Chris King greases- I dig in to data sheets for fun and found that all of their products are actually quite specifically chosen for each purpose and far from generic off the shelf lubricants. (was also the CK service tech in NZ for a while so a little biased....but honestly it was working with them that converted me to a fan!) 

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7/15/2025 4:11pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2025 6:09pm
Same. I’ve found the Rock N Roll Super Coat grease to be fairly sticky. Similar to the Chris King Silver. I was hoping the UR stuff would...

Same. 

I’ve found the Rock N Roll Super Coat grease to be fairly sticky. Similar to the Chris King Silver. I was hoping the UR stuff would be even tackier, but that doesn’t look to be the case. 

JVP wrote:
The Chris King crew were my booth neighbors at NW Tune-Up this past weekend and had some good chats with them. Turns out they have a...

The Chris King crew were my booth neighbors at NW Tune-Up this past weekend and had some good chats with them. Turns out they have a mad scientist on staff who actually formulated and makes their own grease, it's not just white labeled stuff. Pretty cool.

Yup I use a lot of Chris King greases- I dig in to data sheets for fun and found that all of their products are actually...

Yup I use a lot of Chris King greases- I dig in to data sheets for fun and found that all of their products are actually quite specifically chosen for each purpose and far from generic off the shelf lubricants. (was also the CK service tech in NZ for a while so a little biased....but honestly it was working with them that converted me to a fan!) 

Googling that CK grease as we speak. Signed, desperate HS creak grease fix fanboi.

Speaking of perceived viscosity.... I'm glad I'm not the only one who may have gotten a runny UR grease.  It literally didn't stay in its place when I disassembled the headset last night. SO! I mixed the next batch with half and half portions of Finish Line Waterproof grease (thick and rich like a wet stucco) and the runny UR grease. Will keep my keen ears open tomorrow. 

Speaking of brash's reference to lasting a lifetime, the Park Tools tub of assembly grease in the background has been around since my junior year in College (1998). I opened a shop in our College student body building with funding from school because the closest shop was 8 miles away from campus and I noticed a lot of students were walking their bikes with flat tires from the goat heads surrounding the entire campus paths. Anyway, I ordered two of everything, one went to the shop cart and the other fell in my tool box (I mean, the collegiate DH team's tech support -I was the sole racer in the NCCA for our school= CSU Sonoma). God, I had to learn quick on how to put back together beach cruiser drum brakes I unintentionally opened during my shop tenure there. Good times. 

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7/15/2025 6:10pm
JVP wrote:
The Chris King crew were my booth neighbors at NW Tune-Up this past weekend and had some good chats with them. Turns out they have a...

The Chris King crew were my booth neighbors at NW Tune-Up this past weekend and had some good chats with them. Turns out they have a mad scientist on staff who actually formulated and makes their own grease, it's not just white labeled stuff. Pretty cool.

Yup I use a lot of Chris King greases- I dig in to data sheets for fun and found that all of their products are actually...

Yup I use a lot of Chris King greases- I dig in to data sheets for fun and found that all of their products are actually quite specifically chosen for each purpose and far from generic off the shelf lubricants. (was also the CK service tech in NZ for a while so a little biased....but honestly it was working with them that converted me to a fan!) 

ozzer wrote:
Googling that CK grease as we speak. Signed, desperate HS creak grease fix fanboi.Speaking of perceived viscosity.... I'm glad I'm not the only one who may...

Googling that CK grease as we speak. Signed, desperate HS creak grease fix fanboi.

Speaking of perceived viscosity.... I'm glad I'm not the only one who may have gotten a runny UR grease.  It literally didn't stay in its place when I disassembled the headset last night. SO! I mixed the next batch with half and half portions of Finish Line Waterproof grease (thick and rich like a wet stucco) and the runny UR grease. Will keep my keen ears open tomorrow. 

Speaking of brash's reference to lasting a lifetime, the Park Tools tub of assembly grease in the background has been around since my junior year in College (1998). I opened a shop in our College student body building with funding from school because the closest shop was 8 miles away from campus and I noticed a lot of students were walking their bikes with flat tires from the goat heads surrounding the entire campus paths. Anyway, I ordered two of everything, one went to the shop cart and the other fell in my tool box (I mean, the collegiate DH team's tech support -I was the sole racer in the NCCA for our school= CSU Sonoma). God, I had to learn quick on how to put back together beach cruiser drum brakes I unintentionally opened during my shop tenure there. Good times. 

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Sorry that was more of a general recommendation of CK grease, maybe not suitable for here though. The silver grease contains Moly Sulfide which I wouldn't use on carbon parts - the blue stuff would be compatible but its probably too thin to help much

What the UR is supposed to be appears to be the kind of thing I would be looking for (PTFE thickened, maybe a silicone base oil) and quite different to regular mineral oil based grease with lithium or calcium thickeners

 

Sram Jonnisnot is extremely high viscosity and quite tacky - https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ss-grjs-a1 I've had good results with it in specific use cases, and just ordered some UR grease (hopefully mine wil be more like noideas since I'm also in NZ) to compare

The Rock n roll super coat and super web are possibly close but they don't seem to publish data sheets so I've got no idea whats actually in them

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7/15/2025 6:40pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2025 6:40pm
Yup I use a lot of Chris King greases- I dig in to data sheets for fun and found that all of their products are actually...

Yup I use a lot of Chris King greases- I dig in to data sheets for fun and found that all of their products are actually quite specifically chosen for each purpose and far from generic off the shelf lubricants. (was also the CK service tech in NZ for a while so a little biased....but honestly it was working with them that converted me to a fan!) 

ozzer wrote:
Googling that CK grease as we speak. Signed, desperate HS creak grease fix fanboi.Speaking of perceived viscosity.... I'm glad I'm not the only one who may...

Googling that CK grease as we speak. Signed, desperate HS creak grease fix fanboi.

Speaking of perceived viscosity.... I'm glad I'm not the only one who may have gotten a runny UR grease.  It literally didn't stay in its place when I disassembled the headset last night. SO! I mixed the next batch with half and half portions of Finish Line Waterproof grease (thick and rich like a wet stucco) and the runny UR grease. Will keep my keen ears open tomorrow. 

Speaking of brash's reference to lasting a lifetime, the Park Tools tub of assembly grease in the background has been around since my junior year in College (1998). I opened a shop in our College student body building with funding from school because the closest shop was 8 miles away from campus and I noticed a lot of students were walking their bikes with flat tires from the goat heads surrounding the entire campus paths. Anyway, I ordered two of everything, one went to the shop cart and the other fell in my tool box (I mean, the collegiate DH team's tech support -I was the sole racer in the NCCA for our school= CSU Sonoma). God, I had to learn quick on how to put back together beach cruiser drum brakes I unintentionally opened during my shop tenure there. Good times. 

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Sorry that was more of a general recommendation of CK grease, maybe not suitable for here though. The silver grease contains Moly Sulfide which I wouldn't...

Sorry that was more of a general recommendation of CK grease, maybe not suitable for here though. The silver grease contains Moly Sulfide which I wouldn't use on carbon parts - the blue stuff would be compatible but its probably too thin to help much

What the UR is supposed to be appears to be the kind of thing I would be looking for (PTFE thickened, maybe a silicone base oil) and quite different to regular mineral oil based grease with lithium or calcium thickeners

 

Sram Jonnisnot is extremely high viscosity and quite tacky - https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ss-grjs-a1 I've had good results with it in specific use cases, and just ordered some UR grease (hopefully mine wil be more like noideas since I'm also in NZ) to compare

The Rock n roll super coat and super web are possibly close but they don't seem to publish data sheets so I've got no idea whats actually in them

What RC shop did you buy from? Wont make a difference but curious haha

7/15/2025 7:29pm
ozzer wrote:
Googling that CK grease as we speak. Signed, desperate HS creak grease fix fanboi.Speaking of perceived viscosity.... I'm glad I'm not the only one who may...

Googling that CK grease as we speak. Signed, desperate HS creak grease fix fanboi.

Speaking of perceived viscosity.... I'm glad I'm not the only one who may have gotten a runny UR grease.  It literally didn't stay in its place when I disassembled the headset last night. SO! I mixed the next batch with half and half portions of Finish Line Waterproof grease (thick and rich like a wet stucco) and the runny UR grease. Will keep my keen ears open tomorrow. 

Speaking of brash's reference to lasting a lifetime, the Park Tools tub of assembly grease in the background has been around since my junior year in College (1998). I opened a shop in our College student body building with funding from school because the closest shop was 8 miles away from campus and I noticed a lot of students were walking their bikes with flat tires from the goat heads surrounding the entire campus paths. Anyway, I ordered two of everything, one went to the shop cart and the other fell in my tool box (I mean, the collegiate DH team's tech support -I was the sole racer in the NCCA for our school= CSU Sonoma). God, I had to learn quick on how to put back together beach cruiser drum brakes I unintentionally opened during my shop tenure there. Good times. 

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Sorry that was more of a general recommendation of CK grease, maybe not suitable for here though. The silver grease contains Moly Sulfide which I wouldn't...

Sorry that was more of a general recommendation of CK grease, maybe not suitable for here though. The silver grease contains Moly Sulfide which I wouldn't use on carbon parts - the blue stuff would be compatible but its probably too thin to help much

What the UR is supposed to be appears to be the kind of thing I would be looking for (PTFE thickened, maybe a silicone base oil) and quite different to regular mineral oil based grease with lithium or calcium thickeners

 

Sram Jonnisnot is extremely high viscosity and quite tacky - https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/ss-grjs-a1 I've had good results with it in specific use cases, and just ordered some UR grease (hopefully mine wil be more like noideas since I'm also in NZ) to compare

The Rock n roll super coat and super web are possibly close but they don't seem to publish data sheets so I've got no idea whats actually in them

What RC shop did you buy from? Wont make a difference but curious haha

rcparts.co.nz - didn't look too hard but their price including shipping seemed a couple of bucks cheaper than the others I looked at. 

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7/22/2025 7:12pm

I might have found a good alternative to the RC stuff... Motorex Bike White Grease.  Specs say it contains Teflon and is carbon safe.  I got a little jar of it off Universal, and it is very thick and sticky.  Best I can describe it as similar consistency to sour cream, but stickier.  Not all the way to stucco-like that Finish Line stuff Ozzer posted, but way thicker and stickier than the RC stuff (will not drip off a brush at all).  I just put a layer on my ebike's CK Dropset, and in a quick run up and down my street doing stoppies, after a few initial quiet clicks of setting in, it seems silent.

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