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Primoz
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5/6/2023 11:23am

Yup 

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5/6/2023 11:31am Edited Date/Time 5/6/2023 11:35am

Probably a Strive that is small enough for Jesse. 
 

Also some of the updates Fox made to the X2 according to their website

https://www.ridefox.com/family.php?m=bike&family=floatx2
 

NEW base valve piston design and compression tune for increased damping performance and improved sensitivity

NEW bearing housing seal package virtually eliminates possibility of aeration

NEW scraper seal for improved durability

NEW more robust eyelet design on trunnion models

NEW 7000 series shock body on all models

NEW hard chrome damper shaft finish for increased durability

dunno if these „official“ points have been talked about here yet

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5/6/2023 2:20pm
habaden wrote:

Anyone have any intel on what Forbidden is announcing next week?

lloyd506 wrote:

Druid v2 release 

Virtual high pivot?

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pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow

 

 

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5/6/2023 6:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/6/2023 6:15pm
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Probably a Strive that is small enough for Jesse.    Also some of the updates Fox made to the X2 according to their website https://www.ridefox.com/family.php?m=bike&family=floatx2  ...

Probably a Strive that is small enough for Jesse. 
 

Also some of the updates Fox made to the X2 according to their website

https://www.ridefox.com/family.php?m=bike&family=floatx2
 

NEW base valve piston design and compression tune for increased damping performance and improved sensitivity

NEW bearing housing seal package virtually eliminates possibility of aeration

NEW scraper seal for improved durability

NEW more robust eyelet design on trunnion models

NEW 7000 series shock body on all models

NEW hard chrome damper shaft finish for increased durability

dunno if these „official“ points have been talked about here yet

I emailed fox Canada the other day about an aerated shock ( Im not the original owner) and they said they have a ‘fix for this trouble’ for $200cad. Haven’t sent it in yet though 

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5/6/2023 7:15pm
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...

pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow

 

 

On the Atherton flex experiment, I figured it was the same lugs with the flex tuned by changing the wall thickness or layup of the carbon tubes. I wonder.

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5/6/2023 11:06pm

Might be easier for them to adapt the wall thicknesses and fill ratios of the 3D printed parts to achieve a similar effect.

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5/7/2023 2:32am

I know it has been mentioned already but are there any updates on the new boxxer release, shouldn’t it be spring/early 2023?

That’s about time now, a friend of mine is building up a new bike and it would be good to know if it’s worth it to wait for the new one.

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5/7/2023 4:08am Edited Date/Time 5/7/2023 4:09am
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...

pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow

 

 

Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at about the same time, supposedly giving them the ability to use the design royalty free, but what about Orbea and now Saracen? Is the SP patent US only?

EDIT: it appears to be so. Is Orbea sold in the US?

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sspomer wrote:
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...

pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow

 

 

Primoz wrote:
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at...

Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at about the same time, supposedly giving them the ability to use the design royalty free, but what about Orbea and now Saracen? Is the SP patent US only?

EDIT: it appears to be so. Is Orbea sold in the US?

Yes, my LBS (in California) is a dealer.

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5/7/2023 1:58pm
habaden wrote:

Anyone have any intel on what Forbidden is announcing next week?

lloyd506 wrote:

Druid v2 release 

atekt wrote:

Virtual high pivot?

Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake stay. 
Both colours look really good. Nice builds. 
 

5/7/2023 3:19pm
lloyd506 wrote:

Druid v2 release 

atekt wrote:

Virtual high pivot?

lloyd506 wrote:
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake...

Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake stay. 
Both colours look really good. Nice builds. 
 

IMG 0417 1.jpg?VersionId=bQaFSvOkAVahuWt9w898Yk

 

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5/7/2023 3:51pm Edited Date/Time 5/7/2023 4:01pm
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some...

pit bits from fort william BDS. most interesting is matt walker's proto and mention of atherton bikes running different flext patterns in the printed parts. some of the teams didn't want to give much up at this point. matt and the bike look so dialed in the riding footage. raw tomorrow

 

 

Primoz wrote:
Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at...

Looking at the proto Saracen, it has a split pivot at the rear. What's up with the Split Pivot patent then? Trek shoed their variant at about the same time, supposedly giving them the ability to use the design royalty free, but what about Orbea and now Saracen? Is the SP patent US only?

EDIT: it appears to be so. Is Orbea sold in the US?

It is (source: I worked at an Orbea dealer last summer). Devinci, Orbea, Hope, and Antidote all use it, to name a few off the top of my head.

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5/7/2023 9:37pm
atekt wrote:

Virtual high pivot?

lloyd506 wrote:
Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake...

Looks like the same layout as the dh bike there are pictures of. There’s a pivot on rear triangle, can’t remember if on chain or brake stay. 
Both colours look really good. Nice builds. 
 

 

IMG 0417 1.jpg?VersionId=bQaFSvOkAVahuWt9w898Yk

 

So the new bike will go with a much lower and more reasonable HP ? Riders were getting sick of getting pitched forward at the worst of times maybe ? Looks nice lets hope the finish and build quality matches the style of the bike, it might become a good contender.

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5/7/2023 11:05pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2023 1:08am

this bike was sporting the allready seen new vivid as well as the boxxer (both without the blackbox sticker)

Plus a rather interesting looking rocker PXL 20230507 083824312.jpg?VersionId=rTkE8DTi44XOpOe8sbupLfrhzjG

 

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this bike was sporting the allready seen new vivid as well as the boxxer (both without the blackbox sticker) Plus a rather interesting looking rocker   

this bike was sporting the allready seen new vivid as well as the boxxer (both without the blackbox sticker)

Plus a rather interesting looking rocker PXL 20230507 083824312.jpg?VersionId=rTkE8DTi44XOpOe8sbupLfrhzjG

 

As if they used 5Dev cranks as rockers. 

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3d printed and designed using topology optimisation (removing the unneeded material). 

The "new Vivid", could it be called Hyper Deluxe? 😜

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fartsack wrote:
this bike was sporting the allready seen new vivid as well as the boxxer (both without the blackbox sticker) Plus a rather interesting looking rocker   

this bike was sporting the allready seen new vivid as well as the boxxer (both without the blackbox sticker)

Plus a rather interesting looking rocker PXL 20230507 083824312.jpg?VersionId=rTkE8DTi44XOpOe8sbupLfrhzjG

 

A little off topic but where did you get this pic ? it looks like its been enhanced using AI aka Topaz Labs 

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Primoz
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Possibly just blown up to a 1:1 pixel size and we're seeing the effects of post processing. 

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5/8/2023 3:40am

The photo isn't original, someone added filters - modifications on it !

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5/8/2023 3:49am

That photo does look suspiciously AI modified. The tyre in the foreground doesn’t have that grainy filter so it’s not a standard photo filter. The main issue is that the pivot points on the linkage aren’t even close to being round. 

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5/8/2023 5:55am Edited Date/Time 5/8/2023 5:59am

chill boys, it's just zoomed in with a phone. 🙄

taken in chur, switzerland. all scott gear, guess guy's working at scott.

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So the new bike will go with a much lower and more reasonable HP ? Riders were getting sick of getting pitched forward at the worst...

So the new bike will go with a much lower and more reasonable HP ? Riders were getting sick of getting pitched forward at the worst of times maybe ? Looks nice lets hope the finish and build quality matches the style of the bike, it might become a good contender.

What "getting pitched forward at the worst of times" are you talking about? Im riding a Dreadnought and never experienced this behaviour so far, and never heard of it. Im interested if this is really a know characteristic of the bikes and something that people complain about? And how do you fix it by lowering the pivot point?

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Logopit 1683556463330.png?VersionId=KTiiKl

 Red arrows :

The background isn't the original texture of concrete with small-fine gravel... !

Yellow arrows :

Around the frame there is a wierd shadow... !

Green arrows :

The spokes isn't straight and the same with the others, and the color is deferred, and you can clearly see it when the one spoke meets the other one... !

Blue arrows :

Even on the frame and on the linkige you can some imperfections... !

Orange arrow :

WTF is that... !?

Conclusion... :

Because i make modifications on photos and gifs somewhere up to 3 years now... and of course i have made my "own bikes" ... ! It's clearlythat the photo isn't the original and has some "modifications" on it... ( isn't just a zoom up photo...)... !

Probably... 

He enhance the original photo, so he can erase the background and keep the bike and so he can make the changes... (probably to put on the "new shock"...!?)... ! And at the end he put them all together, and then tried to cover all the imperfections as good he could... !

Nice try bud... but you are not good enough... !

Before you starting to downvote and replying BS... Open your eyes and look more carefully... !

@TARTARABLESS 

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Some next level tinfoil hat action with the arrows.

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TARTARA
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Just L☻L !

Don't try to play the "smart-ass"... just go back and see careful his post with the photo... but this time with your eyes open... or probably you needed someone to fool you... so it's so difficult to believe the truth... !?

Get Your Minds Out Of The Gutter... L☻L ! 

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Looks like a proto 3d Ti link so the existing bike can fit a new shock.  

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TARTARA wrote:
Just L☻L ! Don't try to play the "smart-ass"... just go back and see careful his post with the photo... but this time with your eyes...

Just L☻L !

Don't try to play the "smart-ass"... just go back and see careful his post with the photo... but this time with your eyes open... or probably you needed someone to fool you... so it's so difficult to believe the truth... !?

Get Your Minds Out Of The Gutter... L☻L ! 

I don't think it's that people don't believe you (it's obvious that the image has been AI-modified), I think it's just that they think you're trolling. I mean, between the X-Files arrows, the colorful language, and the creative punctuation, it's kinda hard to not get that idea.

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I noticed the Commencal team on a different swing arm than the V5 that was just released. Bottom photo is stock frame.

FD00E400-C97F-4F56-902C-7B18349C3612

 40F6BD64-3A56-49C8-B5C6-73395A601142

 

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