Hayes Dominion Brake Pads

Looking to grab a couple sets of brake pads for this summer. Anyone tried the Jagwire pads for the Dominions? https://bikeparts.com/BPC501340/jagwire-mountain-sport-disc-brake-pads-…;

Or in general, anyone have any notable/good/bad experiences with aftermarket pads? The Hayes pads are just so expensive.

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4/26/2023 1:01am

If they make them for the Dominion, get some Galfer green pads. Best brake pads I have ever tried. If you are worried they won't last long enough or if you ride long descents, you can try the purple ones. They are also supposed to be very good. I usually buy them for 20 euros from Amazon. 

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4/26/2023 1:15am

I would say get the Hayes pads, i've been running the same set of metallics in the rear for at least a year, on my TRP's I would go through 2-3 sets in year.

My calculation is that they end up cheaper for me even though they cost 2.2times more, they are lasting 3 times longer than comparable pads. 

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4/26/2023 6:31am

I've used Galfer, MTX and Hayes, of all of them the MTX Red performed the best (but wore out the fastest). MTX Golds were pretty good but got noisy.

IMO best bang for your buck are the Hayes T100s as @SteveClimber said above

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4/27/2023 12:18am
dolface wrote:
I've used Galfer, MTX and Hayes, of all of them the MTX Red performed the best (but wore out the fastest). MTX Golds were pretty good...

I've used Galfer, MTX and Hayes, of all of them the MTX Red performed the best (but wore out the fastest). MTX Golds were pretty good but got noisy.

IMO best bang for your buck are the Hayes T100s as @SteveClimber said above

What Galfer pads did you try? 

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4/27/2023 6:42am
dolface wrote:
I've used Galfer, MTX and Hayes, of all of them the MTX Red performed the best (but wore out the fastest). MTX Golds were pretty good...

I've used Galfer, MTX and Hayes, of all of them the MTX Red performed the best (but wore out the fastest). MTX Golds were pretty good but got noisy.

IMO best bang for your buck are the Hayes T100s as @SteveClimber said above

What Galfer pads did you try? 

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4/27/2023 7:17am

I like the uberbike race matrix pads. Cheap, although not sure if you can get them stateside?

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4/28/2023 9:56am Edited Date/Time 4/28/2023 9:56am

I got Jagwire Pro E-Bike pads one time because that's all my local shop had in stock for my Shimano brakes, and they were hot garbage. Found out later after some googling that "Pro E-Bike Compound" means organic. Not saying all Jagwire pads are terrible, but buyer beware that they don't always list organic or metallic on the package, sometimes it's just euphemisms like "E-Bike" or "Elite." I would stick with the stock Hayes metallic pads, MTX, or Galfer. And never buy organic brake pads.

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4/28/2023 10:17am

Galfer Standard black are a great balance of price, performance, and lifespan.

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4/29/2023 1:37pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
I got Jagwire Pro E-Bike pads one time because that's all my local shop had in stock for my Shimano brakes, and they were hot garbage...

I got Jagwire Pro E-Bike pads one time because that's all my local shop had in stock for my Shimano brakes, and they were hot garbage. Found out later after some googling that "Pro E-Bike Compound" means organic. Not saying all Jagwire pads are terrible, but buyer beware that they don't always list organic or metallic on the package, sometimes it's just euphemisms like "E-Bike" or "Elite." I would stick with the stock Hayes metallic pads, MTX, or Galfer. And never buy organic brake pads.

OT on. Some top tier brake pads (Trickstuff power, Galfer green) are organic. It depends on the application, for a 3-4 minute dh run organic are superior IMO, but I can see for general riding maybe not so much. OT off

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4/30/2023 10:42pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
I got Jagwire Pro E-Bike pads one time because that's all my local shop had in stock for my Shimano brakes, and they were hot garbage...

I got Jagwire Pro E-Bike pads one time because that's all my local shop had in stock for my Shimano brakes, and they were hot garbage. Found out later after some googling that "Pro E-Bike Compound" means organic. Not saying all Jagwire pads are terrible, but buyer beware that they don't always list organic or metallic on the package, sometimes it's just euphemisms like "E-Bike" or "Elite." I would stick with the stock Hayes metallic pads, MTX, or Galfer. And never buy organic brake pads.

OT on. Some top tier brake pads (Trickstuff power, Galfer green) are organic. It depends on the application, for a 3-4 minute dh run organic are...

OT on. Some top tier brake pads (Trickstuff power, Galfer green) are organic. It depends on the application, for a 3-4 minute dh run organic are superior IMO, but I can see for general riding maybe not so much. OT off

So, which pads would be best for long descends and won’t fade if brakes are applied more? 

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5/1/2023 11:05am

In my experience, always metallic for long descents with high heat or wet riding with high levels of contamination. When organic pads get dirty or hot they tend to disintegrate quickly.

If Ortogonal is right and the Trickstuff pads are organic, that's super cool. I've heard nothing but good things about Trickstuff pads, so maybe they know something that Shimano, SRAM, and all the other manufacturers don't. I've never ever ever heard of anyone riding at a high level who had a good experience with organic pads, and they're pretty much a "throw them directly in the bin" item when a bike or brake set comes stock with organic pads. I know there were some stories about Greg Minnaar experimenting with one organic pad and one metallic pad in each caliper for a while, but I think he stopped doing that a long time ago. But, I'm happy to be wrong.

5/1/2023 3:00pm
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In my experience, always metallic for long descents with high heat or wet riding with high levels of contamination. When organic pads get dirty or hot...

In my experience, always metallic for long descents with high heat or wet riding with high levels of contamination. When organic pads get dirty or hot they tend to disintegrate quickly.

If Ortogonal is right and the Trickstuff pads are organic, that's super cool. I've heard nothing but good things about Trickstuff pads, so maybe they know something that Shimano, SRAM, and all the other manufacturers don't. I've never ever ever heard of anyone riding at a high level who had a good experience with organic pads, and they're pretty much a "throw them directly in the bin" item when a bike or brake set comes stock with organic pads. I know there were some stories about Greg Minnaar experimenting with one organic pad and one metallic pad in each caliper for a while, but I think he stopped doing that a long time ago. But, I'm happy to be wrong.

Yeah, i know metalic pads are the way to go when long-descending and hard-and-long-braking. Was asking if Trickstuff or Galfer have better metalic pads than the original ones and if yes, which are they?

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Ahhh, got it.

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
In my experience, always metallic for long descents with high heat or wet riding with high levels of contamination. When organic pads get dirty or hot...

In my experience, always metallic for long descents with high heat or wet riding with high levels of contamination. When organic pads get dirty or hot they tend to disintegrate quickly.

If Ortogonal is right and the Trickstuff pads are organic, that's super cool. I've heard nothing but good things about Trickstuff pads, so maybe they know something that Shimano, SRAM, and all the other manufacturers don't. I've never ever ever heard of anyone riding at a high level who had a good experience with organic pads, and they're pretty much a "throw them directly in the bin" item when a bike or brake set comes stock with organic pads. I know there were some stories about Greg Minnaar experimenting with one organic pad and one metallic pad in each caliper for a while, but I think he stopped doing that a long time ago. But, I'm happy to be wrong.

Yeah, i know metalic pads are the way to go when long-descending and hard-and-long-braking. Was asking if Trickstuff or Galfer have better metalic pads than the...

Yeah, i know metalic pads are the way to go when long-descending and hard-and-long-braking. Was asking if Trickstuff or Galfer have better metalic pads than the original ones and if yes, which are they?

Galfer purple pads are great. Ran them with Code RSCs. Good bite, good modulation, not shimano grabby, and they last a long time. Ran them with their "Ebike" rotors at 2.0mm x 203mm.

6/23/2023 4:19am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
In my experience, always metallic for long descents with high heat or wet riding with high levels of contamination. When organic pads get dirty or hot...

In my experience, always metallic for long descents with high heat or wet riding with high levels of contamination. When organic pads get dirty or hot they tend to disintegrate quickly.

If Ortogonal is right and the Trickstuff pads are organic, that's super cool. I've heard nothing but good things about Trickstuff pads, so maybe they know something that Shimano, SRAM, and all the other manufacturers don't. I've never ever ever heard of anyone riding at a high level who had a good experience with organic pads, and they're pretty much a "throw them directly in the bin" item when a bike or brake set comes stock with organic pads. I know there were some stories about Greg Minnaar experimenting with one organic pad and one metallic pad in each caliper for a while, but I think he stopped doing that a long time ago. But, I'm happy to be wrong.

Seem to recall Moir once suing he preferred organic pads?

Either way, ‘metallic’ and ‘organic’ both describe a very large range of materials.

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