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Primoz 4/1/2022 12:32pm
4/1/2022 12:32pm
Sure looks like it. There's a remote thingie on the left side of the bars besides the top tube mounted screen. The downtube does look fairly slim though. Fazua powered maybe?
chriskief 4/1/2022 12:59pm
4/1/2022 12:59pm
chriskief wrote:
Not everyone... [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/users/2/photos/149958/s1600_20220324_UCI_DH_WorldCup_Lourdes_84T0701.jpg[/img]
Not everyone...

Commencal posted 6 Supremes from Lourdes...


Amaury Pierron / COMMENCAL Muc-Off


Angel Suarez / COMMENCAL / 100%


Hugo Frixtalon / COMMENCAL / 100%


Benoit Coulanges / COMMENCAL Dorval AM


Raphael Iniguez / COMMENCAL Vee


Antoine Vidal / COMMENCAL Les Orres

Source: https://news.commencal.com/news/Bike-Check-The-6-new-SUPREMEs-of-Lourde…
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taifi 4/1/2022 12:59pm
4/1/2022 12:59pm
Primoz wrote:
Sure looks like it. There's a remote thingie on the left side of the bars besides the top tube mounted screen. The downtube does look fairly...
Sure looks like it. There's a remote thingie on the left side of the bars besides the top tube mounted screen. The downtube does look fairly slim though. Fazua powered maybe?
that seems to be a bosch system
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Werewolflotion 4/1/2022 1:47pm
4/1/2022 1:47pm
chriskief wrote:
Commencal posted 6 Supremes from Lourdes... [img]https://news.commencal.com/news/2831/medium/pierri.jpg[/img] Amaury Pierron / COMMENCAL Muc-Off [img]https://news.commencal.com/news/2831/medium/suarez.jpg[/img] Angel Suarez / COMMENCAL / 100% [img]https://news.commencal.com/news/2831/medium/frixx.jpg[/img] Hugo Frixtalon / COMMENCAL / 100%...
Commencal posted 6 Supremes from Lourdes...


Amaury Pierron / COMMENCAL Muc-Off


Angel Suarez / COMMENCAL / 100%


Hugo Frixtalon / COMMENCAL / 100%


Benoit Coulanges / COMMENCAL Dorval AM


Raphael Iniguez / COMMENCAL Vee


Antoine Vidal / COMMENCAL Les Orres

Source: https://news.commencal.com/news/Bike-Check-The-6-new-SUPREMEs-of-Lourde…
So pretty, give me Hugo's!
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Dickscruttock 4/1/2022 2:06pm
4/1/2022 2:06pm
The other Megatower colour is nice. They have done a good job on both colours.
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PJ205 4/1/2022 3:17pm
4/1/2022 3:17pm
Dickscruttock wrote:
The other Megatower colour is nice. They have done a good job on both colours.
Christiaan_van der Laan wrote:
What is the other color?
Don't even bother interacting with this dude. Scroll back a page or two to see previous comments...
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CascadeComponents 4/1/2022 3:55pm
4/1/2022 3:55pm
FullSend wrote:
Sincerely hope that it's not a Cascade Link. That guy knows surprisingly little about kinematics for what he's doing...
Yeah please do elaborate
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mntnmrtn 4/1/2022 8:49pm
4/1/2022 8:49pm
I thought Pierron's head tube angle looked steep, and by my Photoshop measurements (after leveling the wheels), it looks like it's 64.0 vs 62.2 on Coulanges' bike (which looked like the slackest of the bunch).

I don't know if that's relevant or not for any of you, but I felt like checking it out haha!


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chriskief 4/1/2022 9:15pm
4/1/2022 9:15pm
mntnmrtn wrote:
I thought Pierron's head tube angle looked steep, and by my Photoshop measurements (after leveling the wheels), it looks like it's 64.0 vs 62.2 on Coulanges'...
I thought Pierron's head tube angle looked steep, and by my Photoshop measurements (after leveling the wheels), it looks like it's 64.0 vs 62.2 on Coulanges' bike (which looked like the slackest of the bunch).

I don't know if that's relevant or not for any of you, but I felt like checking it out haha!


Whole lot of stanchion above the top crown on Pierron's bike. Looks like they adjusted that before hitting the track.




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Primoz 4/1/2022 11:24pm
4/1/2022 11:24pm
Not enough to explain the difference in angle.

I just woke up, my eyes are still a bit sticky, but I wouldn't e surprised if there's an angleset in there. Kinda looks like one too actually:
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hitar_potar 4/2/2022 12:22am
4/2/2022 12:22am
Really hoping they made the original HA at 63 at least - from they you can make it steeper or slacker (although it’s a mystery to me why someone would like a steeper-than-63 degrees HA on his/her dh-race bike) with an angleset. Smile I, as an amateur weekend warrior, managed to feel the brutal difference a slacker front end makes on one and the same frame - first the normal 65 HA, then going to 63 HA, before finally arriving at 62 HA by way of custom cups.
chriskief 4/2/2022 3:52am
4/2/2022 3:52am
Primoz wrote:
Not enough to explain the difference in angle. I just woke up, my eyes are still a bit sticky, but I wouldn't e surprised if there's...
Not enough to explain the difference in angle.

I just woke up, my eyes are still a bit sticky, but I wouldn't e surprised if there's an angleset in there. Kinda looks like one too actually:
Agreed. Looks like the frames (at least for the teams) come with a bunch of adjustable bits.



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Morgaj31 4/2/2022 6:13am
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RiderMikeCheck1 wrote:
Think this is probably the target range SRAM is going for, going forward: Sid 100-120 Pike 110-140 (30mm range) Lyrik 130-160 (30mm range) Zeb 150-190 (40mm...
Think this is probably the target range SRAM is going for, going forward:
Sid 100-120
Pike 110-140 (30mm range)
Lyrik 130-160 (30mm range)
Zeb 150-190 (40mm range)

However, hopefully we get 40mm range so it looks more like. But I think doubtful, since it seems they don't want the Pike going past 140mm and the Lyrik past 160:
Sid 100-120
Pike 110-150 (40mm range)
Lyrik 130-170 (40mm range)
Zeb 150-190 (40mm range)
Any idea of when SRAM will release 2023 models?? Don't want to jump the gun and order a Zeb if there's going to be a 170mm Lyrik.
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Primoz 4/2/2022 6:39am
4/2/2022 6:39am
May lift of embargo (supposedly), availability who knows.
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baronKanon 4/2/2022 7:36am
4/2/2022 7:36am
Morgaj31 wrote:
Any idea of when SRAM will release 2023 models?? Don't want to jump the gun and order a Zeb if there's going to be a 170mm...
Any idea of when SRAM will release 2023 models?? Don't want to jump the gun and order a Zeb if there's going to be a 170mm Lyrik.
Just get a Lyrik and a 170mm air shaft?
hitar_potar 4/2/2022 7:52am
4/2/2022 7:52am
Or better yet, get your hands on a Manitou Mezzer and call it a day. You’ll thank me later! Smile
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baronKanon 4/2/2022 7:55am
4/2/2022 7:55am
Mezzer is better out of the box than Lyrik.
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pinkrobe 4/2/2022 8:47am
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Morgaj31 wrote:
Any idea of when SRAM will release 2023 models?? Don't want to jump the gun and order a Zeb if there's going to be a 170mm...
Any idea of when SRAM will release 2023 models?? Don't want to jump the gun and order a Zeb if there's going to be a 170mm Lyrik.
The Canadian distributor's ETA has various RS forks arriving in the third and fourth weeks of April, and a few in the first week of May. All the single crown product looks to be available by mid-May. Should be similar in other regions, if not sooner.
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Noeserd 4/2/2022 10:11am
4/2/2022 10:11am
A new model from commencal or some random render?
Looks like the old v4.2 models but their lines weren't as sharp




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Primoz 4/2/2022 11:36am
4/2/2022 11:36am Edited Date/Time 4/2/2022 11:37am
Kinda looks like it could be trunnion given there's no upper shock bolt clearly seen where it should be in relation to the aircan/reservoir...

It would be kinda weird to do that though given the location and the layout of the frame and shock. They are fairly wide as is.
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Morgaj31 4/2/2022 11:57am
4/2/2022 11:57am
Cheers for the replies, end of April/beginning of May will work. Bit shallow, but not that keen on the look of the Mezzer.
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somebodyyouusedtoknow 4/2/2022 12:23pm
4/2/2022 12:23pm
embargo lifts May 26th. I doubt Lyrik will have more than 160mm travel.
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jason.west.750 4/2/2022 7:17pm
4/2/2022 7:17pm
Noeserd wrote:
A new model from commencal or some random render? Looks like the old v4.2 models but their lines weren't as sharp [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/04/02/12339/s1200_FB_IMG_1648919430924.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/04/02/12340/s1200_FB_IMG_1648919328184.jpg[/img]
A new model from commencal or some random render?
Looks like the old v4.2 models but their lines weren't as sharp




Maybe an April fool's joke. If real definitely a step in the wrong direction. The current design is sharp!
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Primoz 4/3/2022 2:02pm
4/3/2022 2:02pm
That downtube is CHONKY!
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chriskief 4/3/2022 2:17pm
4/3/2022 2:17pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2022 2:18pm
Primoz wrote:
That downtube is CHONKY!
Could just be the size (frame looks very small), but the shock appears to be mounted much lower than the current version. Notice the cables are exiting next to the shock mount rather than below it.





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PJ205 4/3/2022 3:23pm
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Primoz wrote:
That downtube is CHONKY!
chriskief wrote:
Could just be the size (frame looks very small), but the shock appears to be mounted much lower than the current version. Notice the cables are...
Could just be the size (frame looks very small), but the shock appears to be mounted much lower than the current version. Notice the cables are exiting next to the shock mount rather than below it.





Really curious to see how it rides compared to the V1! That's what I am most excited about. I'm wondering if that flatter orientation will help with the action of the shock/kinematics, as I noticed that my V1 seems to get hung up in certain situations. Was speaking to a former SC sponsored rider just recently who said he had the same exact issues that I do with his MT V1, but I still love this bike. Also worried that the eye-to-eye is going to dramatically change and the DHX2 from my V1 won't fit on the v2, even if I remove or add spacers. Guess we'll see more info VERY soon.
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Noeserd 4/3/2022 3:39pm
4/3/2022 3:39pm Edited Date/Time 4/3/2022 3:41pm
Primoz wrote:
That downtube is CHONKY!
That's what you get if you want less warranty cases


jokes aside that frame is really chonky
Werewolflotion 4/3/2022 3:51pm
4/3/2022 3:51pm
Noeserd wrote:
That's what you get if you want less warranty cases


jokes aside that frame is really chonky
Forgive me if I'm late to the party here, but it's chonky b/c of the frame storage, a first for SC no?
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