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Loki87 11/25/2018 9:21pm
11/25/2018 9:21pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2018 9:23pm
tullie wrote:
Gwin had a meeting with Transition, could Trani put all its eggz in that basket?
mutton wrote:
As someone pointed out to me - if Transition (or any brand) goes that route and he doesn't win - that would be a bad move...
As someone pointed out to me - if Transition (or any brand) goes that route and he doesn't win - that would be a bad move! Too much expectation!
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yes,but if he does win (and the chances are good), its a big pay day for whoever gets him.
This highly depends on the company i believe. If it´s Intense or Transition, basically a brand with a "core" image that´s been established and had success before (Moir, Tahnee), people won´t really care if he loses because it´s not cool to hate on them and the bikes aren´t really open to any particular criticism.
If it´s a big player with an established bike and/or a new player with a questionable image or bike, it´s a huge gamble that might pay out big or may backfire horribly. If it backfires and their bike design is dated anyways, they may however as well just release a new bike with input from AG after and heavily market that, which in return will turn out perfectly fine for them as his name still can carry any new frame.
The only real precedent for this we have is specialized and they are in a kinda unique position. People just like to hate on that company. I highly doubt many other companies would get as heavy backlash as they did.

TL:DR
Peoples prior perception of the bike and company will highly influence how a AG loss will be perceived.
A hateable product will get ridiculed while a well liked product/company will get much more leniency and they may be able to salvage it.

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waldog 11/25/2018 9:57pm
11/25/2018 9:57pm
With all this Intense conversation (pun intended), people seem to have forgotten that Dean Lucas has been very successful for the team in recent years. It isn't just Moir that has skills to pay the bills.

It seems to me a big risk for Intense to get rid of the services of two highly skilled and successful riders, the likes of what many teams would love to have one of, let alone two, to have a swing at Gwin.
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Zach_Singer 11/26/2018 5:47am
11/26/2018 5:47am
waldog wrote:
With all this Intense conversation (pun intended), people seem to have forgotten that Dean Lucas has been very successful for the team in recent years. It...
With all this Intense conversation (pun intended), people seem to have forgotten that Dean Lucas has been very successful for the team in recent years. It isn't just Moir that has skills to pay the bills.

It seems to me a big risk for Intense to get rid of the services of two highly skilled and successful riders, the likes of what many teams would love to have one of, let alone two, to have a swing at Gwin.
For what it’s worth.
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Brian_Peterson 11/26/2018 6:31am
11/26/2018 6:31am
Remember, as far as Gwin winning being a big win for a potential sponsor.. We are still talking DH bikes... And nobody is selling a ton of those...
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Mo(n)arch 11/26/2018 7:39am
11/26/2018 7:39am
waldog wrote:
With all this Intense conversation (pun intended), people seem to have forgotten that Dean Lucas has been very successful for the team in recent years. It...
With all this Intense conversation (pun intended), people seem to have forgotten that Dean Lucas has been very successful for the team in recent years. It isn't just Moir that has skills to pay the bills.

It seems to me a big risk for Intense to get rid of the services of two highly skilled and successful riders, the likes of what many teams would love to have one of, let alone two, to have a swing at Gwin.
Zach_Singer wrote:
For what it’s worth. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2018/11/26/7010/s1200_4F28A726_26D5_4F68_81F6_1FAC22D54E03.jpg[/img]
For what it’s worth.
Dean was rocking Scott goggles for at least the whole last season.
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onenerdykid* 11/26/2018 7:53am
11/26/2018 7:53am Edited Date/Time 11/26/2018 7:55am
Brian_Peterson wrote:
Remember, as far as Gwin winning being a big win for a potential sponsor.. We are still talking DH bikes... And nobody is selling a ton...
Remember, as far as Gwin winning being a big win for a potential sponsor.. We are still talking DH bikes... And nobody is selling a ton of those...
When brands win in racing, it's not about selling the specific product that was used on race day but about selling the brand as a performance brand and the more commercial grade products that are actually sold. Think F1, Moto GP, or even something more tangible like alpine ski racing- you know how many FIS-level race skis are sold? Very, very few. Ultimately, those races aren't used to sell the products of the moment, they are used to sell the brand and the more commercial products that they influence.
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Maxipedia 11/26/2018 8:25am
11/26/2018 8:25am
I think Zach refers to the fact that TLD and Scott are tagged in the story and Intense aren't. Smile

Don't you think we make too much of this tagged/untagged thing? Some things are obvious, like Gee hiding sponsor logos, I give you that, but sometimes it is really nothing.

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stringbean 11/26/2018 4:58pm
11/26/2018 4:58pm
So ahh, who's going to fill in at yeti and specalized in EWS?
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mfoga 11/26/2018 5:49pm
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stringbean wrote:
So ahh, who's going to fill in at yeti and specalized in EWS?
Nothing changed for Specialized, Graves was out indefinitely already with a much larger issue.

Plus have they announced suspensions? I didn’t even think they have had the trials yet.
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taldfind 11/26/2018 6:55pm
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mfoga wrote:
Nothing changed for Specialized, Graves was out indefinitely already with a much larger issue. Plus have they announced suspensions? I didn’t even think they have had...
Nothing changed for Specialized, Graves was out indefinitely already with a much larger issue.

Plus have they announced suspensions? I didn’t even think they have had the trials yet.
Correct, the trials don't even have a date set yet.
Brock_Fisher 11/27/2018 7:10pm
11/27/2018 7:10pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2018 7:13pm





Picture 1. The only two manufacturers Kate Courtney follows are Specialized and Scott.

Picture 2. Adam Brayton only following Nukeproof on instagram at this time.

Picture 3. Hrastnik is following only one race team and that's Unior Tools/Devinci racing

I know its instagram... But probably decent hints at whats to come.

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Primoz 11/27/2018 9:48pm
11/27/2018 9:48pm Edited Date/Time 11/27/2018 9:49pm
I wouldn't read too much into it regarding Monika, it's basically a Slovenian team, regardless of the Devinci factory connection. The whole team was built upon a local team here, it's like a pro detachment of KD Rajd that... got wildly out of control in a good way :D

It is probably an old follow from the old days... When Monika was battling another Unior rider for race victories.

EDIT: the last part is actually not true, Zarja spent most of the last season injured :/
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Maxipedia 11/28/2018 2:40am
11/28/2018 2:40am
Dean Lucas posted about the Pedro's stuff he is getting and there was a nice picture of the Worlds bike with a proper tag to Intense. There you go! Smile

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Jason333 11/28/2018 6:08am
11/28/2018 6:08am
Didn't AG basically confirm intense a few weeks ago on his Instagram account? Maybe I'm completely mistaken, but I thought this was "over"
Broken_spoke.photo 11/28/2018 6:21am
11/28/2018 6:21am
Christopher Blevins (U23, USA) confirmed on the Specialized World Cup team for 2019.
He mentioned something like"Young and talented world cup squad", Hinting that He, Courtney and Gaze will continue to claim world cup podiums.
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Brian_Peterson 11/28/2018 6:43am
11/28/2018 6:43am
Jason333 wrote:
Didn't AG basically confirm intense a few weeks ago on his Instagram account? Maybe I'm completely mistaken, but I thought this was "over"
I only remember a confirmation that he was leaving the mob...
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Primoz 11/28/2018 7:51am
11/28/2018 7:51am
Correct, he said the new program is 'lit' or something along those lines.
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Erotomania90 11/28/2018 9:28am
11/28/2018 9:28am
I don’t think rapid prototyping, bike design, or wheel size have any influence on AG’s frame sponsor. AG helped YT into the US market, but they still have a foreign brand presence. AG riding for an American bike maker just makes sense. Gwin is a brand himself, all of his sponsors have to build on that brand. Especially with Neko on board, I think it’s a good move for American mountain biking in general.
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bici73 11/28/2018 9:51am
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Primoz wrote:
I wouldn't read too much into it regarding Monika, it's basically a Slovenian team, regardless of the Devinci factory connection. The whole team was built upon...
I wouldn't read too much into it regarding Monika, it's basically a Slovenian team, regardless of the Devinci factory connection. The whole team was built upon a local team here, it's like a pro detachment of KD Rajd that... got wildly out of control in a good way :D

It is probably an old follow from the old days... When Monika was battling another Unior rider for race victories.

EDIT: the last part is actually not true, Zarja spent most of the last season injured :/
monika + one Pierron in the same team
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cebe 11/29/2018 1:42am
11/29/2018 1:42am
bici73 wrote:
monika + one Pierron in the same team
...and that 99,9% sure isnt Unior Devinci!
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bici73 11/29/2018 5:41am
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bici73 wrote:
monika + one Pierron in the same team
cebe wrote:
...and that 99,9% sure isnt Unior Devinci!
nope it's a french one
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clem-mk 11/29/2018 6:52am
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bici73 wrote:
monika + one Pierron in the same team
cebe wrote:
...and that 99,9% sure isnt Unior Devinci!
bici73 wrote:
nope it's a french one
Voulvoul racing? Team mate with Marine Cabirou?
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samlr 11/29/2018 10:43am
11/29/2018 10:43am
WalterBlackman wrote:
Has anyone seen this? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2018/11/29/7022/s1200_185CBB57_89B9_47BB_8B69_27874DFD9D01.jpg[/img]
Has anyone seen this?


Maybe Velosolution don't stop and take a new frame sponsor ? Or it's about the pumptrack
austen.bickford 11/29/2018 11:06am
11/29/2018 11:06am
WalterBlackman wrote:
Has anyone seen this? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2018/11/29/7022/s1200_185CBB57_89B9_47BB_8B69_27874DFD9D01.jpg[/img]
Has anyone seen this?


samlr wrote:
Maybe Velosolution don't stop and take a new frame sponsor ? Or it's about the pumptrack
I posted a link to a youtube video a few days ago. Velosolutions is definitely done racing according to that video.
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bturman 11/29/2018 11:40am
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austen.bickford wrote:
I posted a link to a youtube video a few days ago. Velosolutions is definitely done racing according to that video.
I posted a link to a youtube video a few days ago. Velosolutions is definitely done racing according to that video.
Embedded for ease:

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austen.bickford 11/29/2018 3:07pm
11/29/2018 3:07pm
austen.bickford wrote:
I posted a link to a youtube video a few days ago. Velosolutions is definitely done racing according to that video.
I posted a link to a youtube video a few days ago. Velosolutions is definitely done racing according to that video.
bturman wrote:
Embedded for ease:

Rad! I am better at bikes than I am at forum use.
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steveperry 11/29/2018 8:25pm
11/29/2018 8:25pm
Not to refer to the colored bike source, but Velo had a full article there and the tone of what Claudio posted indicated the World Cup pump track as a focus.
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