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Similar story for me, my 2018 commencal weighed 23kgs in DH mode, my current Giant reign with 800wh weighs 26kg. To be honest, as much as I would like a lighter bike, it rides very similarly to lighter bikes, it's all about that unsprung weight! Hence why I would love to test a Pinion MGU bike.

we are going backwards it seems. my old 2018 Merida E-160 in large (alloy) 540Wh battery (external), double down tyres, fox 36 factory, Float X2 = 22.9kg So that's full power, decent enough battery to do 60km & 1100m climbing and enduro running gear that can take a beating. (it did) My dream is my current bike (Norco range VLT) with 720Wh coming in at 22kg lol. I'm only 8kg over!

Welp, looks like I knew nothing and will be tumbling down the rankings

Injured her wrist in the final practice run before race run.

Great ride by Alex Storr (local rider). This was so far out of his wheelhouse and he was called up really late to ride. It's not like you can go out and practice 90 footers!!

So the cameras were out for qualis, all runs recorded, Tahnee and Rob on the commentary, timing running and we didn't get to watch it? And no negative comments flooding social media platforms? Wow! If only WB/Disco had the public by the balls like RB do

Probably time to jump down from that high horse your on and take a breather

Old person here. Rampage is too groomed.It's so 'mid' now. 90ft jumps are not the norm for pro's......not even the darkfest crew. I know some of the 'boyz'. Most of them are scared shitless. *You're The event is owned and run by RB. The diggers (some of the Dyfi crew) are contracted to build/maintain the course. Dh is a minority sport.....but that does'nt mean that there should be a high chance of death for a minor mistake. Both Bk's and Jims jumps could have gone very,very,very badly wrong.It's bike racing.....not Beyond Thunderdome (ask your Dad). I'm going back to my...

This analogy works because you CANNOT weight your hands at all, therefore you have to stay balanced over your midfoot, otherwise you fall over. But unfortunately it isn't a correct system to explain a bike. Having the bars lower enables you to weight your hands MORE, than having taller bars. Again, imagine really really tall bars, not only will they be closer to you, but because they are higher you can't weight them as much. Your 2nd paragraph I 100% agree with, he is moving the bars higher (any further away from the front) because of the long reach, to...

But what he's stating is a fact. It's simple trigonometry. If you move your hands higher, your weight moves backwards. Imagine infinitely tall bars where your arms are vertical above you, versus 0 rise bars, you can clearly imagine the gradient where lowering the bars creates the lean forward at the hip, thus moving the centre of gravity forward. He's not saying which is faster as that is relative to style and setup, but you can't dispute very basic geometry concepts, it's not armchair QB as you put it.

Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see if the Ochain really works as advertised?

Great breakdown/comparison of Dak and Ronan by Elliot Jackson and Redbull Bike.

Elliot isn't saying one is wrong or right, just showing the viewers the difference. Dakota runs a softer fork setup and stiffer rear because of his weight bias. Ronan on the other hand is the opposite, stiffer fork and softer rear. I also wouldn't consider Elliot an armchair QB, him and Rob Warner have great opinions and insights. They have been there, and done that at the highest level.

I haven’t spent any time on the old bike, but it seems to be very similar to the new one. My biggest takeaway from this new generation is the increased durability and slightly more balanced geometry, it seems like a bike that would last a lot longer than what Ive read about the outgoing model.