2023 Racing Talk

kcy4130
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4/27/2023 3:50am

For tape, there'll only be a dozen or so problem areas on a track where lot's of riders break the tape and it's retied over and over. The rest should be mostly intact, so perhaps it makes sense to use plastic in problem areas and reusable elsewhere. In some sections it looked like it was just short posts for the course and tape further back to keep fans from standing too close. Then the odd pads that could have been the short posts? Are those just there so they can have advertisements on them? Maybe to be easier to see at speed too? 

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4/27/2023 4:29am

As for how the riders viewed the changes, there do seem to be some who's optimism/hopefulness about discovery is perhaps a little feigned. So far on the coverage side of things all discovery has really done is announce a paywall and the commentators. The only reason they'd go with Ric and Cedric instead of Warner and Eliot is to save money. Penny pinching like that makes all their talk of "next level" seem a bit questionable. idk, we'll see. 

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4/27/2023 9:48am

asa vermette's winning run from DHSE. gonna be rad to see this kid on the WC circuit (and we get to watch for free on youtube)

 

so i signed up for discovery+ last week b/c XC will be here soon enough and bonus was that i got battlebots and house hunters. things could be worse HAHA

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4/27/2023 10:01am

re: course gates/pads - i wondered about them being used for ad space too but have been told they'll remain as we see them now for the season (just UCI branding).

i'm all for avoiding single-use plastic when possible, but the notion that the marking changes is an environmentally friendly achievement makes me laugh. all of these big, new pads have to be stored, shipped, brought up the mountain, taken down the mountain etc. wouldn't a few rolls of tape in backpacks at each race have a smaller overall impact in the long run? as long as the markers are safe and good for viewing, i don't care if it's tape or gates or pads. hundreds of mountain bikers and staff are criss-crossing the world via airplanes and huge trucks to race bikes for our entertainment. there will never be anything environmentally friendly about it. sure, start somewhere and every little bit helps, but...

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Losifer
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4/27/2023 11:57am
sspomer wrote:
re: course gates/pads - i wondered about them being used for ad space too but have been told they'll remain as we see them now for...

re: course gates/pads - i wondered about them being used for ad space too but have been told they'll remain as we see them now for the season (just UCI branding).

i'm all for avoiding single-use plastic when possible, but the notion that the marking changes is an environmentally friendly achievement makes me laugh. all of these big, new pads have to be stored, shipped, brought up the mountain, taken down the mountain etc. wouldn't a few rolls of tape in backpacks at each race have a smaller overall impact in the long run? as long as the markers are safe and good for viewing, i don't care if it's tape or gates or pads. hundreds of mountain bikers and staff are criss-crossing the world via airplanes and huge trucks to race bikes for our entertainment. there will never be anything environmentally friendly about it. sure, start somewhere and every little bit helps, but...

Frankly, pushing this as a change to reduce environmental impacts is performative at best. You're right, compared to the emissions from flying so many people and all the stuff to race and cover these races a few dozen rolls of course tape is nothing.

I can see the reduction in impact and clean up for individual venues, but Dean Lucas has a great point about this likely being about creating a cleaner look on camera.

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4/27/2023 12:08pm
sspomer wrote:
asa vermette's winning run from DHSE. gonna be rad to see this kid on the WC circuit (and we get to watch for free on youtube)...

asa vermette's winning run from DHSE. gonna be rad to see this kid on the WC circuit (and we get to watch for free on youtube)

 

so i signed up for discovery+ last week b/c XC will be here soon enough and bonus was that i got battlebots and house hunters. things could be worse HAHA

next year...   not this year, his racing age is only 16.

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4/27/2023 12:32pm
sspomer wrote:
re: course gates/pads - i wondered about them being used for ad space too but have been told they'll remain as we see them now for...

re: course gates/pads - i wondered about them being used for ad space too but have been told they'll remain as we see them now for the season (just UCI branding).

i'm all for avoiding single-use plastic when possible, but the notion that the marking changes is an environmentally friendly achievement makes me laugh. all of these big, new pads have to be stored, shipped, brought up the mountain, taken down the mountain etc. wouldn't a few rolls of tape in backpacks at each race have a smaller overall impact in the long run? as long as the markers are safe and good for viewing, i don't care if it's tape or gates or pads. hundreds of mountain bikers and staff are criss-crossing the world via airplanes and huge trucks to race bikes for our entertainment. there will never be anything environmentally friendly about it. sure, start somewhere and every little bit helps, but...

these guys: "So we only have two rounds now. It's better for the environment." 

 

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4/27/2023 1:15pm
sspomer wrote:
asa vermette's winning run from DHSE. gonna be rad to see this kid on the WC circuit (and we get to watch for free on youtube)...

asa vermette's winning run from DHSE. gonna be rad to see this kid on the WC circuit (and we get to watch for free on youtube)

 

so i signed up for discovery+ last week b/c XC will be here soon enough and bonus was that i got battlebots and house hunters. things could be worse HAHA

jwillp wrote:

next year...   not this year, his racing age is only 16.

well that's a bummer! i thought he was racing jr. insane he's so young and so fast

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4/28/2023 4:05am
sspomer wrote:
asa vermette's winning run from DHSE. gonna be rad to see this kid on the WC circuit (and we get to watch for free on youtube)...

asa vermette's winning run from DHSE. gonna be rad to see this kid on the WC circuit (and we get to watch for free on youtube)

 

so i signed up for discovery+ last week b/c XC will be here soon enough and bonus was that i got battlebots and house hunters. things could be worse HAHA

jwillp wrote:

next year...   not this year, his racing age is only 16.

sspomer wrote:

well that's a bummer! i thought he was racing jr. insane he's so young and so fast

Look out for tyler waite and oli clark from nz. Pretty sure asa only just bet tyler at the taniwha dh for crankworx in u17 

oli clark is u17 national champion in nz. Those two will be at world cup age next year. They’ll certainly make an impact 

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jwillp wrote:

next year...   not this year, his racing age is only 16.

sspomer wrote:

well that's a bummer! i thought he was racing jr. insane he's so young and so fast

dylanjp006 wrote:
Look out for tyler waite and oli clark from nz. Pretty sure asa only just bet tyler at the taniwha dh for crankworx in u17  oli...

Look out for tyler waite and oli clark from nz. Pretty sure asa only just bet tyler at the taniwha dh for crankworx in u17 

oli clark is u17 national champion in nz. Those two will be at world cup age next year. They’ll certainly make an impact 

Tyler waite actually bet Asa by 3 seconds for the u17 taniwha dh

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4/28/2023 8:38am

@sspomer could we maybe pin this up top and swap it out with team rumors since silly season should definitely be done by now. Could be nice. 

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PinkBike team on new forks for 2023 season? 
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5/2/2023 7:56am

which is older? the "current gen" dorado or the saint groupset?

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5/2/2023 12:42pm

which is older? the "current gen" dorado or the saint groupset?

Saint. Manitou came out with a new generation of Dorado in 2021.

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Simcik
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5/2/2023 3:36pm

which is older? the "current gen" dorado or the saint groupset?

Saint came out in 2012 Shocked

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5/3/2023 1:38am Edited Date/Time 10/16/2023 4:15am
sspomer wrote:
re: course gates/pads - i wondered about them being used for ad space too but have been told they'll remain as we see them now for...

re: course gates/pads - i wondered about them being used for ad space too but have been told they'll remain as we see them now for the season (just UCI branding).

i'm all for avoiding single-use plastic when possible, but the notion that the marking changes is an environmentally friendly achievement makes me laugh. all of these big, new pads have to be stored, shipped, brought up the mountain, taken down the mountain etc. wouldn't a few rolls of tape in backpacks at each race have a smaller overall impact in the long run? as long as the markers are safe and good for viewing, i don't care if it's tape or gates or pads. hundreds of mountain bikers and staff are criss-crossing the world via airplanes and huge trucks to race bikes for our entertainment. there will never be anything environmentally friendly about it. sure, start somewhere and every little bit helps, but...

Well in fact tape need to be produced, stored, shipped, bring up the mountain (and down) as well. and then straight forward gets thrown into the bin. and those are HUGE amounts of tape. Nevermind the tape that gets forgotten on the mountain and "rotts" (not) in the nature. There exists biodegradable tape unfortunately it costs a lot. Using multiway tape is cheaper i guess.

the pads however are a new adition and do not replace any taping I guess. realisticly i doubt it has any other purpose than branding....i guess we'll have to have shitloads of treepads ready anyway. Wink

 

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5/3/2023 7:03am

Having worked at organizing races (both local and international), the amount of tape that was used just once to flag courses was pretty absurd, tape that was just thrown into the trash after the race.

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jwillp
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5/4/2023 5:39am

Stacked field for Pro men this weekend at Windrock DHSE...

According to the pre-race podcast some of the top names include Gwin, Grice, Vermette, Dooley, DeDora, Nicholson and Pinkerton.  I guess this isn't part of Dak's ramp up to UCI.  Should be a fun weekend with 50%+ chance of rain Friday-Sunday.

 

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5/4/2023 6:09am

Mr Hill seems to be in sunny Scotland

5/4/2023 7:36am

Riders putting in testing time for worlds.  

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5/4/2023 2:57pm

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Losifer
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5/4/2023 6:19pm

Flo ain’t quite done yet.

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5/5/2023 11:25am

Reece Wilson with a nasty injury and sounds like he’ll be out for a while ☹️

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Reece Wilson with a nasty injury and sounds like he’ll be out for a while ☹️

tl;dr tibial plateau fracture of the right leg and a bunch of other fractured stuff, no eta to return to racing

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr3v8Lat0JA/

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sspomer
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that sucksssssss!!!

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5/6/2023 1:27am

No, no, no, no, no, no

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