Have you seen many + / plus bikes on the trails?

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That Monster 5/3/2016 1:52pm
5/3/2016 1:52pm
That Monster wrote:
You are aware it's actually based on the 650b so calling it a 6fattie makes more sense and is more accurate than 27+. 27.5 was just...
You are aware it's actually based on the 650b so calling it a 6fattie makes more sense and is more accurate than 27+.

27.5 was just made up so yanks could wrap their heads around 650b. Funnily enough, both trek and spesh call it 650b which is nice to see. Maybe there's hope for the USA yet...

In relation to this article 6 fatties have been popular. Regular wheels still out sell them but they're making up a solid potion of sales over here in the midlands. Personally building up a 'regular' 650b bike though.
radair wrote:
If you call a 650B+ a 6 fatty then what do you call a 650B x 3.8 or 4" tire, such as the Hodags? B fat...
If you call a 650B+ a 6 fatty then what do you call a 650B x 3.8 or 4" tire, such as the Hodags? B fat is one term i heard. Maybe there's hope for you Brits yet.
I don't call them anything because I've never had to think about or make utterance of them.
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NirWheels 5/4/2016 10:18am
5/4/2016 10:18am
sspomer wrote:
I'm curious to find out if you Vital readers have noticed many bikes with plus size tires out on the trails when you ride. It may...
I'm curious to find out if you Vital readers have noticed many bikes with plus size tires out on the trails when you ride. It may be a bit early in the season to get a good grasp of how many are out there, but here's a completely unscientific poll. If you have a plus-sized bike, chime in on seeing others besides your own haha. It probably wouldn't hurt to share where you live/ride, too!

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Own Genius LT 700 Plus

Came stock with 2.8" front and rear.

By far the widest spectrum all mountain bike yet
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Stayslacking 5/4/2016 12:42pm
5/4/2016 12:42pm
DrewB wrote:
Just got back from Moab yesterday, saw a handful in the wild out there. A Spec Stumpy plus bike (they call it 6Fattie because they are...
Just got back from Moab yesterday, saw a handful in the wild out there. A Spec Stumpy plus bike (they call it 6Fattie because they are Speshal, but they are also the Walmart of the bike world), and a Hightower in plus shoes. Honestly not sure if they were rentals - I think the Spec was a rental, the Hightower was actually owned. Was actually surprised to see them and its funny this question popped up so soon after... I gotta say, they actually mentally made sense to me in Moab, what with all the sand and rock crawlin' to be had. The Spec bro was in our crew on Porcupine rim and rallied it at speed. But, I am sticking with Procore, and on that note it provides the benefits of plus and I would venture to say absolutely essential piece of kit in Moab.
pretentious.

I second the comment about being common in Massachusetts. More so in realm of very tight/rocky/rooty trails. Personally, I own a dh rig, dirt jumper, and just bought my second mid fat. They're awesome for the east coast stegosaurus rocks that require some float.
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kboss 5/6/2016 11:02am
5/6/2016 11:02am
I haven't seen any on the trails in Alberta, but I shoved some 2.8" Nobby Nics into my bike and couldn't get over how much easier technical sections became. I even compared some Strava segments and all were faster (up and down). They did feel a bit squirmy on compressions (big dips) in the trail however.

The rear tire started to touch the frame a bit after being seated for a few days, so I had to remove it. Fork has plenty of space given it was a 29/27.5+ version of the Pike. If products become available, my next short travel bike will be a + size, likely in the 2.65" tire range with a ~38mm inner width rim to support it.
pancakeflatted 5/6/2016 12:47pm
5/6/2016 12:47pm
MY friend has one. Been nothing but trouble on the trails. Always getting flats, having trouble with suspension, slow on the uphills. Main problem is tire choice for these things--freaking thin sidewalls on cheap tires.

Or maybe the problem is just my friend's riding and his pocketbook! hahaha

Got nothing against the bike though. Except when he flats.
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hbelly13 5/9/2016 7:32am
5/9/2016 7:32am
Here in Georgia, I see a handful of them every week. They are mostly 27.5+ hard tails. There is a shop in Elijay that is big on plus and fat bikes too. I demoed one yesterday (Scott Genius +) and it was a lot of fun. That said, I would not want it as my daily driver. Evil
Faster Than U 5/18/2016 7:57am
5/18/2016 7:57am
I've been running 26+ on my Uzzi for about 3-4 months now. It's a blast both uphill and downhill. I can monster truck over or through anything. Its built up light though, only 28.7 lbs with the plus tires. I have another wheelset with 2.4's on them that I use for AM, but I don't use them anymore since switching to the plus size. 26+ is nice too since it's a lighter stiffer, stronger wheel, but with the plus tire it's almost 27.5 in diameter so better rollover and a bigger contact patch then a regular 27.5 so better traction and cushion. It's the best of both worlds.
thedeathstar 5/18/2016 8:55am
5/18/2016 8:55am
NoahColorado wrote:
Yup, usually either in the parking lot talking about riding or on the side of the trail fixing punctures.....
Doesn't this apply to mountain bikers in general?
Faster Than U 5/18/2016 9:36am
5/18/2016 9:36am
NoahColorado wrote:
Yup, usually either in the parking lot talking about riding or on the side of the trail fixing punctures.....
thedeathstar wrote:
Doesn't this apply to mountain bikers in general?
Plus bikes are actually less likely to flat due to the increased volume, especially when running tubeless. I got way more rim strikes with my 2.4's than I do with my 2.75's even though I'm running lower pressure.
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kboss 5/18/2016 9:41am
5/18/2016 9:41am
Faster Than U wrote:
I've been running 26+ on my Uzzi for about 3-4 months now. It's a blast both uphill and downhill. I can monster truck over or through...
I've been running 26+ on my Uzzi for about 3-4 months now. It's a blast both uphill and downhill. I can monster truck over or through anything. Its built up light though, only 28.7 lbs with the plus tires. I have another wheelset with 2.4's on them that I use for AM, but I don't use them anymore since switching to the plus size. 26+ is nice too since it's a lighter stiffer, stronger wheel, but with the plus tire it's almost 27.5 in diameter so better rollover and a bigger contact patch then a regular 27.5 so better traction and cushion. It's the best of both worlds.
What tires are you using?
Faster Than U 5/18/2016 10:06am
5/18/2016 10:06am
Faster Than U wrote:
I've been running 26+ on my Uzzi for about 3-4 months now. It's a blast both uphill and downhill. I can monster truck over or through...
I've been running 26+ on my Uzzi for about 3-4 months now. It's a blast both uphill and downhill. I can monster truck over or through anything. Its built up light though, only 28.7 lbs with the plus tires. I have another wheelset with 2.4's on them that I use for AM, but I don't use them anymore since switching to the plus size. 26+ is nice too since it's a lighter stiffer, stronger wheel, but with the plus tire it's almost 27.5 in diameter so better rollover and a bigger contact patch then a regular 27.5 so better traction and cushion. It's the best of both worlds.
kboss wrote:
What tires are you using?
26 X 2.75 120tpi Surly Dirt Wizards.

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