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10/25/2020 1:32pm
10/25/2020 1:32pm
Apologies if there's an existing thread, I wasn't able to find one.
Impetus: as a new rider on the lighter end of the spectrum I wasn't able to find baseline settings that worked for me, hopefully this thread can provide some starting points for new riders and ideas for experienced ones.
I've probably left some important info out, please chime in with ideas of stuff to add!
Below are the settings I've found that work for me and my riding style and conditions right now. I have no idea if they'll work for you
All settings are from fully closed
Rider weight (kitted): 150lbs
Bike: Santa Cruz 5010 V3
Fork: 150mm Fox 36, GRIP2
PSI: 55 (~20% sag)
HSC: +16
LSC: +12
HSR: +6
LSR: +6
Volume spacers/tokens: 2
Shock: DPX2
PSI: 180
HSC: +10
Rebound: +14
Volume spacers/tokens: 0.4
Tire pressure: 21 PSI front, 24 PSI rear, no inserts
Impetus: as a new rider on the lighter end of the spectrum I wasn't able to find baseline settings that worked for me, hopefully this thread can provide some starting points for new riders and ideas for experienced ones.
I've probably left some important info out, please chime in with ideas of stuff to add!
Below are the settings I've found that work for me and my riding style and conditions right now. I have no idea if they'll work for you
All settings are from fully closed
Rider weight (kitted): 150lbs
Bike: Santa Cruz 5010 V3
Fork: 150mm Fox 36, GRIP2
PSI: 55 (~20% sag)
HSC: +16
LSC: +12
HSR: +6
LSR: +6
Volume spacers/tokens: 2
Shock: DPX2
PSI: 180
HSC: +10
Rebound: +14
Volume spacers/tokens: 0.4
Tire pressure: 21 PSI front, 24 PSI rear, no inserts
Bike: Commencal Meta AM29
Fork 170mm Fox 36 Grip
PSI: 0 (55lb spring converted)
Compression: 3 Oclock
Rebound: 4
Hydraulic Bottom out: 4 clicks from closed
Shock: Fox DHX2
PSI: 0 (500lb spring)
HSC: 8
LSC: 12
HSR: 5
LSR: 14
Bike: Merida E160 900e (ebike)
Fork 170mm Fox 38 Grip2
PSI: 114
HSC: 5
LSC: 12
HSR: 1
LSR: 5
Shock: Mazocchi Bomber CR
PSI: 0 (450lb spring)
Comp: 6
Reb: 8
Rider weight (kitted): 190lbs
Bike: 2021 Specialized Enduro S5
Fork: 2021 Fox Factory 38 170mm GRIP2
PSI: 110psi
HSC: 7
LSC: 11
HSR: 5
LSR: 5
Volume spacers/tokens: 2
Shock: 2021 Fox Factory DHX2
Spring: 550lb
HSC: 7
LSC: 9
HSR: 5
LSR: 5
*still dialing in
Tire pressure: 25 PSI front, 29 PSI rear, no inserts (Cushcore for bike park races)
A few things that might also be helpful when considering suspension setup:
Rider height: 6' 4"
Typical terrain: Desert Southwest Jank
Skill Level: Advanced
Tire casings: DD or DH front and rear
Height: 6'4" with long legs
Bike: 2019 Transition Smuggler XL
Terrain: Varied Colorado conditions
Tires: 2.4" Michellin Wild Enduro front and rear set 25f/26r
Fork: Fox 36 Elite 140mm
Pressure: 73psi
Compression 2 clicks from open
Rebound: 5 clicks from closed
Tokens: 2
Shock: Fox DPS Elite 120mm
Pressure: 175psi
Rebound: 6 clicks from closed
Not really enough travel to be supple while still supportive, so I just set it up stiff/supportive enough to allow those fun trail gaps, compressions, and to efficiently pump for speed. The tires are very supportive given the bike's weight allowing it to very rarely hit the rim even on very sharp rocks in compressions, great upgrade from the EXO tires that came stock.
Bike: Nicolai G19 DH bike XL with spacers and tall bars
Terrain: Dry high speed DH with minimal roots, occasional rocks, but lots of heavy compressions.
Tires: 27.5 Maxxis 2.5 Assguy DH MaxxGrip 27f/28r No inserts on Flow EX rims
Fork: 2019 Fox 40 Factory foam rings removed 203mm
Pressure: 71psi
LSC: 1 click from open
HSC: Open
LSR: 4 clicks from closed
HSR: 3 clicks from closed
Tokens: 7
Shock: 2018 Fox Float X2 Factory 190mm
Pressure: 169psi
LSC: 1 from open
HSC: Open
LSR: Open
HSR: 3 clicks from open
Bands: 3
I have not ridden anywhere with this bike that I feel requires giving up support for traction and would run these settings in Virgin, UT except for tire pressures. If I was to race somewhere that is rocky in the corners or has a lot of off camber roots I would lose a few volume reducers and play with pressures/compression.
Height: 5'10 ish
Bike: 2019 S-Works Enduro 29 Size L
Location: Western North Carolina
Terrain: Rough and chunky, lots of fast roots, rocks and ruts. Always mildly damp and loose.
Riding style:
Suspension Components-
Fork: Fox 36 Factory Series Grip2 damper set to 170mm
Shock: Fox Factory Series Float X2 w/ 2 pos lever. (216x57 Specialized Direct Mount)
Fork Settings- Currently setup for speed and control through rough technical trails.
Pressure: 78-82 psi
Volume Reduction: 3 Orange tokens
HSC:6-8 clicks
LSC:10-14 Clicks
HSR:5 clicks
LSR:4 clicks
*Clicks counted from open position*
Shock Settings
Pressure: 218 PSI
Volume Reduction: 3 Float X2 orange rings
HSC: 0 (all the way open)
LSC: 8-12
HSR:7-9
LSR:8
Tire Pressure:
Front: 2.6" Specialized Hillbilly BLCK DMND @22-24 PSI (Cushcore installed for bike parks)
Rear: 2.6" Specialized Eliminator BLCK DMND W/ Cushcore @ 24-26 PSI
Mounted to Stans Flow EX3 rims @28mm wide
2020 Intense Primer 27.5
Fox34 150mm 85psi
12 clicks LSC
5 clicks LSR
Fox DPX2 190psi
5 clicks LSR
https://www.vitalmtb.com/community/killer1999,33342/setup,41922
Rider weight (kitted): 77kg
Fork: lyrik rct3 170 (debonair 2.0)
PSI: 76 (~23% sag)
LSC: +5
R: -9
Volume spacers/tokens: 2
Shock: super deluxe
PSI: 140 (~33% sag)
Rebound: -8
Volume spacers/tokens: 3
Tire pressure with rear insert:
Downhill laps: 1.55 bar front, 1.7 bar rear
Enduro laps:1.7 bar front, 1.9 bar rear
I guess i should share mine since i'm here:
Ragley Bluepig ( hardtail )
Rider weight: 85KG
Fork: Marzocchi Bomber z1 Coil 160mm
Spring: Firm (green) 0 preload
Compression: somewhere between full open and half closed depending on riding
Rebound: 5 clicks from closed
Rear shock: none
Rear tire: Maxxis Aggressor DD 2.5 w/ Cushcore, 24psi
Front tire: Maxxis Assegai EXO+ maxxterra w/ nukeproof ARD, 21psi
150mm lyrik ultimate rtc3, 3 volume spacers, 23-24% SAG
LSC: 7 clicks from fully open
Rebound: 9 clicks from fully closed
Super deluxe ultimate, 1 volume spacer(stock), 30% SAG
LSC: 0 clicks(fully open)
Rebound: 6 clicks from fully closed
1.8-1.6 bar rear-front when it is dry and hardpacked, 1.6-1.4 anywhere else, DD in the back, exo+ in the front. (front and rear, DHF maxx terra 2.5 WT)
Mediocre riding style.
Bike - Pivot Switchblade v2
Fork - 2021 Fox 36 160 Grip2 with DSD Runt
Pressure - 70 low / 135 high
Compression - open on both (sometimes I add 2 clicks of HSC if its real chunky or a bike park)
Rebound - HSR - closed, LSR - somewhere in the middle
Shock - 2021 Fox DPX2 - Custom tune DSD (HSC and LSC opened up and HSR added)
Pressure - 190psi (~27% sag)
Rebound - somewhere in the middle
Tires - Assegai Exo+ and Dissector Exo+, with Tannus tubeless inserts. 19-20 psi in front / tbd psi rear (haven't rode it). Previously had a DHF DD in the rear with tannus at 21psi, but felt it was too heavy for most days. Probably will try 22-23 psi in the exo+ and see if it doesn't explode.
As for how I like it, I love it and all my friends that are now on it love it. It has a big following in Durango obviously since DSD is in town. I've been on a RUNT for a little over a year I think on two forks, both 160. If I was to sum up what I feel it did for my front suspension 1) Corner support. It sits higher than before in the travel on berms or supported turns, preserving the geo. 2) Small bump is the same as before but now I have better mid and high support 3) Better ramp to the end stroke. I felt before it was a harsh ramp at the end with tokens, or I needed more compression with 2 tokens to get the same, but it was a harsher feeling then now.
Main thing to say is that everyones pumps likely give a different pressure (would guess +-10%), so I wouldn't read into pressures a ton, just go with sag settings and what feels good for you. For example, Diaz said my rear was at 190 on his pump and it felt harsh, but when I put mine on it was showing 195, so I am guessing it was around 210 and felt stiff.
How I would tell you you are in a good spot with the runt is on most rides using 60-80% of the travel and your hands aren't getting fatigued on longer downhills. On big hits you should have it go to 90-95% and if you really take a monster mess up or massive hit to flat, it should go full travel. If you feel that your hands are sore, reduce the low a few psi's and repeat a good section of trail until you think it's in a good spot. Then adjust high accordingly based on ratios above. But ride with your pump in your pack a couple rides and adjust on sections you know well and can really feel how it is working.
Bike: Banshee Titan XL
Rider: 6'3" 210 lbs
2020 Fox 36 Factory 170mm
91 psi, 2 orange volume spacers
HSR 4 out
LSR 5 out
HSC 9 out
LSC 6 out
2021 Fox Float X2 Factory
230 psi, 1 volume spacer
HSR 6 out
LSR 6 out
HSC 5 out
LSC 7 out
Riding in CO (tons rocks and dry)
Pivot 5.5
Lyrik RCT3 (sorry don't know spacer specs)
psi:57
LSC:12
R:13
Float X2 (sorry don't know spacer specs)
psi:160
HSC:12
LSC:14
HSR:9
LSR:12
DHF 2.5 Evo w/ Cushcore
F TerraGrip: 21-23 psi
R DualCompound: 25 psi
Intense 951 Evo
2012 40 RC2
Spring: Purple
Preload: 13 (or 9...my notes aren't clear)
HSC: 11
LSC: 5 (this needs to be bumped up)
R: 9
DHX2 (these numbers I think might be a little off)
Spring: 350lb Vault
HSC:11
LSC:10
HSR:11
LSR:13
Onza 2.4 Tires (mid 20's psi) (Will be changing next season since I wore them out)
F: Aquilla
R: Ibex
Another thing I would put in is make sure that fork is serviced. I'm pretty religious about mine and do the lower fluid and seals about every 50 hours. I think it makes a world of difference in that off the top feeling making that feel good.
Bike - Rocky Mountain Altitude 29” Carbon 2021, size large
Fork - 2021 Fox 36 Factory Ltd. (root beer) 170 Grip2 with 1 spacer (Fox ID D324)
Pressure - 80 psi (~ 17% sag)
Settings from fully closed
Compression - HSC 5 of 8 / LSC 10 of 16
Rebound - HSR 5 of 9 / LSR 6 of ?
Shock - 2021 Fox DPX2 Performance, Fox ID D62G - 0.4 Spacer, CEC001, LRM, Rezi M2+ L M+,
Pressure - 260 psi (~30% sag) and with that 20psi more than recommended by Rocky Mountain
Rebound - 7 clicks from fully closed
Tires - Hometrails
Front Schwalbe Magic Mary Snakeskin Evo Soft 29x2.35 with 22 psi /
rear Schwalbe Hans Dampf Sknakeskin Evo Soft 29x2.35 with 25 psi
on a set of Carbon rims 30mm inner width / tubeless
Tires - Bike Park / Enduro races
Front Maxxis DHR 2 29x2.4 WT Exo MaxxGrip with 22 psi
Rear Maxxis DHR 2 29x2.4 WT Exo with 25 psi
on Stans ZTR Flow Mk3 rims with Barbieri Anaconda tire inserts front/rear tubeless
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