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Apparently Cedric is off SC... (sorry no photo right now, but check his IG account)

This quote from the BigBike interview, is what most have been practicing since i've been around in racing (the dark ages).... BB: Is it possible to ingest these products inadvertently? JP from M: When you are a top athlete, it is entirely your responsibility to know what you are ingesting. There are prohibited substances and with them related substances. It's been like this since the beginning of the anti-doping fight and nobody is supposed to ignore it. The card of accidental ingestion is a defense that does not hold up very well ...

Yeah man, the universe isn't even real bro. Did you know we're all just made of stars? Far out! Nothing matters dude! Look, the rules and limits are clear. If you're not clear on that, that's on you. These athletes voluntarily participate in a sport governed with rules and a part of that is PED testing. It's nice that they weren't caught with CERA or popped for anabolics, but in this case the testing actually (really!) is binary: They both failed a drug test. You can call it a grey area, but then when they're sanctioned will they "sort of"...

Lot of mixed feelings on this one. On one hand I've been around competitive cycling, in just about every discipline, for most of my life (20 years?). Doping and cycling have been synonymous since I can remember. Like others in this thread (and on Pinkbike) I also want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but struggle to do so, as I was probably the biggest "lance is clean" guy going...and was made to look a fool. (this happened other times too) I also find it a bit unnerving and a bummer to see that photo of Graves taking...

Probably should be doing a yearly check on ingredients vs WADA list if you are a pro athlete.

bummer for sure.

Interesting news. I'd suggest reading the interviews Jared and Richie just did on the subject first. Then read about the substances. Then remember that this is all still in the early days of being dealt with - don't get ugly on here, let the process cast a verdict. And, unlike the Team Rumors thread, keep things factual if possible and not just wildly speculative. This is science, keep things moving in the vein of facts and figures.