E-bike talk: not tech rumor derailment

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Amidst the power wars, the last thing we need is a new ebike that looks like a moto. Luckily they used the Shimano motor so all the hikers should have zero problem with this on the trails!

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Honda enters eMTB market… and will exit pretty quickly. 

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Anyone heard anything about a new Levo coming Spring 27? 

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DylanJM wrote:

Anyone heard anything about a new Levo coming Spring 27? 

I've heard this from a guy with Specialized contacts.  No details, just that it's not just another rebrand of the Levo 4.

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DylanJM wrote:

Anyone heard anything about a new Levo coming Spring 27? 

AndehM wrote:

I've heard this from a guy with Specialized contacts.  No details, just that it's not just another rebrand of the Levo 4.

That's a big 180 I think? As a consumer on the outside I had the impression that Spesh intended to use the molds for the Levo 4 for like 5 years and just release the same front triangle with different links/chainstays for different travel brackets. Huge price tags and low SKUs and print money.

It's really odd to me that many brands seem to have been tipped off early about Amflow releasing a $5k bike and came out with their own $5k eebs to match them, and Spesh seems to have had no idea it was coming. puts on tinfoil hat

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That's a big 180 I think? As a consumer on the outside I had the impression that Spesh intended to use the molds for the Levo...

That's a big 180 I think? As a consumer on the outside I had the impression that Spesh intended to use the molds for the Levo 4 for like 5 years and just release the same front triangle with different links/chainstays for different travel brackets. Huge price tags and low SKUs and print money.

It's really odd to me that many brands seem to have been tipped off early about Amflow releasing a $5k bike and came out with their own $5k eebs to match them, and Spesh seems to have had no idea it was coming. puts on tinfoil hat

The levo downtube could swallow an amflow, it’s not just a price matching issue. 

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DylanJM wrote:

Anyone heard anything about a new Levo coming Spring 27? 

AndehM wrote:

I've heard this from a guy with Specialized contacts.  No details, just that it's not just another rebrand of the Levo 4.

That's a big 180 I think? As a consumer on the outside I had the impression that Spesh intended to use the molds for the Levo...

That's a big 180 I think? As a consumer on the outside I had the impression that Spesh intended to use the molds for the Levo 4 for like 5 years and just release the same front triangle with different links/chainstays for different travel brackets. Huge price tags and low SKUs and print money.

It's really odd to me that many brands seem to have been tipped off early about Amflow releasing a $5k bike and came out with their own $5k eebs to match them, and Spesh seems to have had no idea it was coming. puts on tinfoil hat

If I had to speculate, Big S is a large ship to turn, and they were already a few years into Levo 4 development/production when the Avinox wave started to break.  They probably would have liked to react sooner, but they had a massive glut of L4 inventory that they needed to unload first.  We've seen them frantically coming up with different build kits (the R model & Evo) using the same base frame/motor to try and clear out some of that stock.  But if they hold fast to the flop of the L4 design too long, they will cease being relevant, especially since there are so many Avinox powered bikes from other brands that are both lighter and more powerful.  So while they'd probably liked to have milked the L4 design a couple more years (similar to how long the L3 was out), Avinox is forcing their hand to iterate faster.

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Maybe special ed dont want to get caught with their pants down again and are releasing new frame to fit an mgu. Supposedly everyone has been developing one, including the motor systems we havent seen with proto mgu's

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